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jags

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view this tent utube
« on: September 25, 2014, 11:10:26 PM »
lads what you think of this tent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhIN5JcuBMw

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Re: view this tent utube
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2014, 10:35:59 AM »
Looks interesting.
John

jags

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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2014, 12:52:41 PM »
have you come across it before john,it comes highly recommended from a backpacker on trailspace.but there a few things i dont like about it out seems to hit the inner tent and that door set up i would rather see them fully zipped up.
other than that its looks good.

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2014, 01:12:47 PM »
Leaving aside the presenter who did a 'workmanlike' job  ;) it did look an interesting tent but I'm inclined to think that it is not suitable for N. European weather. I like the space inside and it seems to go up quite quickly and easily. I don't like the lack of a fully zipped vestibule and I've got my doubts about the pole system too. All that said I speak from a mountaineer's perspective which is slightly different to that of a pure cyclist. There are some great inovations being made in this field; many of which are prompted by better, lighter and cheaper materials combined with interesting  designs via CAD. Makes me old Vango Force 10 seem like an army patrol tent by comparison.

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2014, 02:01:35 PM »
in4 i'm on the lookout for a new lighter tent for my trip to the uk next year,i do have to plan  ::) :-[

my own tent although its brilliant is just to heavy at 4kg,i hated the AKTO just to small. This is beginning to sound like that story goldy locks and the three bears ;D.

so please if you know of one that will be perfect for me  let me know and i'll start saving.
Light
Easy Pitch all in one.
2 man loads of room.

johns set up is perfect for me  great tents but expensive. rear panniers with all he nees for a weeks camping and touring sure what could be better.

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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2014, 02:37:18 PM »

 "Interesting" if the wind changes?!  Slab sided and open ended??

Then they all need a "footprint" adding because the groundsheet is too thin for the real world...... ???

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2014, 06:43:18 PM »
Anto...

Here is an off-the-wall suggestion I wouldn't offer except I saw so many of these in use by happy cycle-tourists in Luxembourg and along the Austrian and German stretches of the Danube and by an entire platoon of hiking teenaged Belgian Scouts in Nancy, France: The Quechua line of instant ("2-Second") tents.

They pitch *themselves* literally within two seconds, pitch as all-in one, and have lots of room inside (a Bavarian friend shares one with his wife, and he measures 196cm tall). There are lighter-weight versions at least a kilogram lighter than your GT Nallo Spear, and they seem to tick most of your boxes. They do draw a crowd when "pitching", but if onlookers blink they'll miss the show. I have to admit to being a bit envious at how quickly they went up in a rainstorm, staying completely dry inside.

The poles are flexible to an astonishing degree and I feared for their occupants in high winds, but everyone seemed to come through unscathed after the storms I witnessed. Unstaked and unoccupied, they can tumble for hundreds of meters and will float...for awhile...as unlicensed vessels on major European rivers. The main problem seems to be their stowed size and shape; they look like a large disc (think: Folded automobile windscreen sunshield). The best approach seems to be securing them to a bike horizontally using a "spider" type bungee net with multiple hooks atop the rear rack/panniers so they don't catch the wind. Stowed thusly, they didn't seem to affect handling adversely. For an example, see: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jesgf/3594414511/

All in all, I was pleasantly surprised at how well these tents worked and how happy the owners were, some having used theirs for multi-year segments of the Eurovelo routes, as much as six weeks at a time. A number of Dutch Weraldfietser ("World Cyclist") forum members use them with great satisfaction. Cost is fairly reasonable at chains like Decathlon, though the more expensive, bike-suitable versions are available from other vendors.

If you're looking for an all-in one, instant pitch with plenty of interior volume and don't mind packing a flat disc atop your rear bags, one might well do at a far more reasonable weight than your present tent at at a cost reasonable enough to leave more money for meet registration and the ferry. They fold up almost as quickly; see: http://www.quechua.com/en-GB/notice/player/24/produits-mode-d-emploi/25/zelt-2-seconds/204/1-second-repliage.html  'Wouldn't be my choice, but there's as many variations in personal lodging preferences as there are in bicycles. After 31 years of happiness with a 1kg hooped Gore-Tex 1-man bivy, I've had great success with my closeout priced USD$60 Coleman Exponent Dakota 1, which has held up nicely for several years now and stayed dry in torrential rains and high winds, provided it was pitched correctly and tautly. I bought three at the price so I'd have some good-cheap tents in reserve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3312cVa6HU

Here's some links and videos for the "instant" Quechuas:
• Pitches and takedowns: http://www.quechua.com/en-GB/notice/24/produits-mode-d-emploi/25/zelt-2-seconds.html
• Factory site showing broad model range: http://store.quechua.com/en-GB/sport-camping-camping-tents-camping-1-4pers/2-seconds-tent

Quechua also make a lightweight 2-person tent of more conventional design I saw that pitches quickly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mICvbe7JRF8

All the best,

Dan. (...who also saw a tent colored hot-pink and its happy owner, so figures personal preference may be the most important "feature" in personal lodging)

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2014, 07:22:40 PM »
cheers Dan as ever you come up with loads of great info.i actually seen a guy in france in one of those tents  but he was car camping.nah to be honest its not for me its to tunnell like for me. i love the look of the TP tents  golight or nallo gt2 that shape.
ive just put my raleigh up on facebook also going to try and sell my tent see if i cant gather enough money to buy a quality tent thats going to suit me.

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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2014, 08:01:06 PM »
It's too bad the Quechua tent packed up is such an awkward shape, because the ease of pitching and takedown is a great advantage. Australian company Oztent offers the Malamoo range which appears to be a similar design and price point. http://www.oztent.com.au/malamoorange/malamoo-classic#.VChVoicayK0

I recently bought an Exped Venus II UL http://www.exped.com/australia/en/product-category/tents/venus-ii-ul. Not as quick to pitch as the Quechua, but stills goes up quickly, as an all-in-one, and is almost a kilo lighter in weight. It is a 2-door, 2-vestibule design which will hopefully fit all of our panniers under cover. The shop threw in the footprint for free, and gave me a substantial discount (bless their cotton socks  :D). I have pitched it once in the backyard, but have yet to take it cycling.

I also went with an idea that John Saxby gave me when he posted about using a lightweight tarp as part of his setup. I bought a Sea to Summit Escapist 3x3 tarp http://www.seatosummit.com.au/products/bug-protection/escapist/ for pitching over the tent, bike etc., and giving us some dry area for cooking, etc. Again, it hasn't been used yet, but I'll post a full report from my next tour, which had to be postponed until November  :(.

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2014, 08:45:46 PM »
sam i would need to win the lottery to buy that tent :-[

nice though..

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2014, 09:35:57 PM »
What about a Lichfield Treklite 200?  Not a super lightweight but a lot better than what you have, and very reasonably priced. It gets good reviews - I'm not a camper but if I wanted to give it a go I think I would start with this one. The colour may be a drawback though if you want to do stealth camping.

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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2014, 10:14:54 PM »
No worries, Anto!  ;)

But...I can't believe you've put your Raleigh up on the block.  :o

As for storage, it is truly astonishing how little vestibule space is needed to store a full set of touring bags out of sight...and outside the interior living space. See pics below for mine. The entire interior of the tent is left open for my use when the bags are stored under cover. If I were resident at the time, the handlebar bag would go inside; it always goes with me and is just posed in the pictures below to show what's possible.

It's rare I need to, but on this occasion I wanted to leave camp so I could ride the bike to visit a fortress across the valley. Though trusted and true friends own and operate this Belgian hilltop campings, there's just a little less temptation for _other_ campers to "see what's in the bag" if they're under cover. Always nice to have a vestibule for rain cover, sheltered entries and exits, and for discreet bag storage when "away".

All the best,

Dan.

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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2014, 10:22:20 PM »
nope  not the tent for anto sorry,if you look its like the akto tent in shape and size i hated that thing.
i could live with that tent sammy posted but man at that price they can keep it.
i'll get there in the end im in no big rush besides been broke i don't need it until next year.

thanks lads.


anto.
just seen your post dan,but Dan boy your an  expert im a total fred when it comes to camping honest to god.most of you lads would live under a tree, i need to feel safe and warm.i cant afford to go changing again this will be my third tent got to get the perfect one this time,as i said no hurry.

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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2014, 11:52:54 PM »
Anto,

Here's a reasonably priced quick-pitching, roomy fairly lightweight tent you could have son Frank pick up for you when he gets to Seattle:

http://www.rei.com/product/819973/kelty-salida-2-tent

Videos here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmVwzlzDPL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac-RGnDnod0

A basic self-supporting 2-person x-frame dome tent with a fly-based vestibule that was a 2011 magazine award winner: http://www.backpacker.com/gear/tents/editors-choice-2011-kelty-salida-2-tent/ Still gets good reviews for 1.7kg and USD$170. That often goes down to ~USD$136 during REI's quarterly 20% off sales. USD$140 at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Kelty-Salida-Backpacking-Person-Tent/dp/B004HRP1CY

Just something to file away if it appeals.

Best,

Dan.

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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2014, 12:19:34 PM »
Thanks Dan, yeah i like that looks simple enough to pitch and only 5lb did i hear her right great tent for that weight and price is good.
Frank and famile are still  travelling by car across america i dont think they with get to Seattle until friday, but i'll send him the link.

dan i decided to sell my raleigh it needs a paint job i love my bikes to be sparkling  ;D
but its still a great bike and if i get a good price for it  then its gone.
great project for someone who wants a top of the range 753 still rides like a dream
John Maybe i'l do a deal with him on one of his better tents  ;D ;D

thanks Dan.

anto