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jags

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super expensive frames
« on: January 10, 2013, 01:48:06 PM »
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=57640

although i think this is a fantastic  frame and super workmanship. how can you justify paying that kinda money for it  :o
are we all being ripped of with these crazy prices  like if a guy was on 150 quid a day and theres probable 100 quid worth of tubes in that frameset they buy it cost price  ;) where does the 3 grand  appear from.
 :-\ ::) ???

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2013, 02:13:20 PM »
Easy answer to that is in the Middle ages one wore a huge cod piece to show off. Nowadays it's cars, bikes and other bling.

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2013, 03:26:01 PM »
...I am so far behind the times then LOL

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2013, 03:57:39 PM »
Would it do anything that the Spa Titanium can't do?

There again I keep thinking I may get Robin Mather to build me a steel frame and his are £1800.
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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2013, 04:36:43 PM »
Well...

Overhead of keeping shop going
Wages/insurance
Keeping stock of items (tubing = expensive)
No pensions if you're self-employed
Did I mention insurance?
Promotion

Etc..

http://www.steve-goff-frames.co.uk/frames.shtml is a UK builder with very reasonably prices, seen a frame of him upclose and it's lovely :)

(me? I just said yes to a 1978 coicc san cristobal columbus frame...)
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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2013, 05:04:14 PM »
jawine i know all that but still doesn't justify  nearly 4 grand for one frame ,
sell a couple frames every week  costs covered.

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2013, 05:18:13 PM »
Well...me and the manfriend had a thought on how to get a bike business.

Basically: There's an optimal price point. If a frame is 2 grand, it's a niche market.
And yeah I wouldn't spend that kind of money. But if others feel it's worth it...it's a valid business model :)
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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2013, 06:16:41 PM »
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=57640

although i think this is a fantastic  frame and super workmanship. how can you justify paying that kinda money for it  :o
are we all being ripped of with these crazy prices  like if a guy was on 150 quid a day and theres probable 100 quid worth of tubes in that frameset they buy it cost price  ;) where does the 3 grand  appear from.
 :-\ ::) ???

They tell you the self-image that the buyer would like to have of himself:

"The R440 is made for the power rider who pushes huge watts and has a tendency to flex, over-stress and break everything. Acceleration, braking, climbing and descending…the R440 does it all. This frame is made for the rider that excels in crits and competitive road racing that wants stiffness and performance first and foremost."

It's a bike for poseurs (French cod-euphemism for cafe racers and other posers).

Hey, I would look good sitting in the caff on the square in lycra with that bike parked nearby...

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2013, 10:12:41 PM »
They tell you the self-image that the buyer would like to have of himself:

"The R440 is made for the power rider who pushes huge watts and has a tendency to flex, over-stress and break everything. Acceleration, braking, climbing and descending…the R440 does it all. This frame is made for the rider that excels in crits and competitive road racing that wants stiffness and performance first and foremost."

Yep, cod-piece  ::) :D :D :D

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2013, 11:46:38 AM »
Acceleration, braking, climbing and descending…the R440 does it all. This frame is made for the rider that excels in crits and competitive road racing that wants stiffness and performance first and foremost."

It's good for braking? Wowsers. ;D

Actually it's GOOD bikes are getting expensive and attract people with more money than sense. As people always want to emulate the rich, even when the rich are dumb.
So usually that's not good. But it gets people cycling...as cycling is not for chums only that can't afford a car...
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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2013, 03:38:04 AM »
I swear I've seen a Cervelo frame that cost $10,000 US. Some people just have loads of money and weak legs. That's all it is you know. All of it.

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2013, 10:21:43 PM »
Come on you can buy a Handbag for £25,000 UK!
I have had a few nice top end frames over the year and the ride was great!

You can have a frame tuned for you, build for and its like a good wine.

My Thorn frame is build for touring! and is over 3.5kgs!

I can buy a topend race bike frame that is only 0.670kgs! and climbing hills will be Fun.

You pay you money and get what you pay for!

How my Handbag only cost $98 NZ (£50 UK) i just can not go out and have anyone see me will it ?

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2013, 10:30:23 PM »
what colour did you get Pete the handbag that is  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2013, 10:43:27 PM »
Brown!

I like Brown! Brown pants, tops, and Brown Handbags

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Re: super expensive frames
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2013, 10:45:48 PM »
nice choice was it dark brown or more a tanney  brown.long shoulder strap or just te too short handles for that bit of swing of the hips. ;D