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Danneaux

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #105 on: June 28, 2012, 05:46:24 PM »
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...an impressive amount of stuff on your bike...
...And waaaaay too much "stuff" for any ordinary touring, Ben. The all-up weight for what I "need" is about 42lbs including the bags to carry it (Ortliebs aren't very light, but they are surely sturdy). Camera gear figures in there, too. Anything much beyond that is food (heavy) and water (really, really  heavy!) for places where I will be spending time but can't resupply.
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...an equally impressive top speed
Aww, Ben...gravity helped! I really don't want to go down at that speed, but it is a common downhill speed for me when descending mountain passes loaded, so it was worth simulating now to check for wobble-shimmy. I've fallen once in the past at 48mph in the rain and gotten away with it because it was wet (reduced friction) and I was very lucky, but this would be considerably less pretty. Beside, Sherpa might get scratched or hurt, and we can't have that. He's never fallen or gone down, and I'd like to keep it that way.
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The inclinometer is appealing to my inner geek.  Will have to drop less than subtle hints around November to Mrs S.
Yes! Ben, you need one of these. Except for the bike computer, I've gotten more joy from this than any other "bike-toy" (accessory). I love it! Hint: Get two for the tandem. Stokers find these as fascinating as captains. Mine do!

Jags...not quite ready to go yet. Yes, I've got the shimmy banished as the bike now sits, but I've got to get to the root cause, so the trip will be postponed till I gain a little more knowledge. I really don't want to tour on damp playa on 1.5 road slicks; I need a bit more floatation at the weights I carry. And, I don't want to get groceries at Fields Station, dump them in the panniers, and have the wheels wobble out from under me as I descent from the Catlow Rim at 50+mph with a full load. Look at the third photo here: http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotos-g51866-d3179421-Fields_Station_Motel-Fields_Oregon.html#42769179 and you'll see why; there's nothing Out There. I've got to get this fully resolved back at this end first.  Dying to leave, but have to exercise some restraint before I can go. Rearranging my schedule time-wise so I can go in July-August, but the weather will be against me.

All the best,

Dan.
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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #106 on: July 02, 2012, 03:33:30 AM »
Hi All!

If you'd like to "meet" me, you're welcome to head on over to my YouTube channel and see what I look like and hear me speak. Just go to: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSherpaRider

The latest video is Sherpa's speedy descent of Green Hill here in Eugene, taken today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxm750H5LY4&feature=plcp . As you might guess, I joined him on this ride and the many other grinds up and blasts down, as we try to deconstruct and positively identify the source of his shimmy at well over 50mph/80kph. That flapping Ortlieb map case peeled 1.2mph/1.93kph off the top speed (dirty airflow). Holding it down definitely helped, according to the computer readout.

There's also some videos I took pre-Sherpa, during my 2010 tour of the Great Basin that give some idea what my desert tours are like. Please excuse my appearance. I'm dehydrated, sunburned, and blistered, with my nose and lips bleeding and my tongue a little swollen because of the alkali dust in the air -- it is corrosive as battery acid. Plus, the video taken outside Denio, NV shows me at 4:50AM and 19F/-7C while "dirtbagging" (sleeping open and tentless) as my water bottles quietly freeze on the bike. This is the sort of touring I love, and I will be returning to most of these places again with Sherpa. If I can find the time, I plan to put up a website showing the 3,800+ still shots I've taken on these rides and many more as we continue.

For now, these will give a taste in sight and sound. This next tour I will be taking three cameras, all of which have HD video capability, so hopefully I will get better results than these. I wish the production quality was better and I wish I didn't sound quite so inane, but I'm learning more by the day about taking better videos and trying to think of what I'll say before filming. Still photography has been my talent to date, so this is an exciting opportunity to learn something new.

Best,

Dan.
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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #107 on: July 02, 2012, 04:19:29 AM »
These are great, Dan, informative and inspiring!

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #108 on: July 02, 2012, 04:40:17 AM »
This guy gets really freaky speed wobbles with no load at all on his bike  :o (at 0:30)

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #109 on: July 02, 2012, 05:11:39 AM »
And, I don't want to get groceries at Fields Station, dump them in the panniers, and have the wheels wobble out from under me as I descent from the Catlow Rim at 50+mph with a full load. Look at the third photo here: http://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotos-g51866-d3179421-Fields_Station_Motel-Fields_Oregon.html#42769179 and you'll see why; there's nothing Out There.

Those images remind me of William Creek Hotel - pop'n 3.




Over there's the accommodation





And this is the road ahead




At least the weather was fine  ;D
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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #110 on: July 02, 2012, 09:20:37 PM »
Hi Dan
like the bedside perspective videos. Looking at the terrain you and il padrone cover I can see why you want to carry so much gear.
Keep up the interesting work.
Ian

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #111 on: July 02, 2012, 10:42:17 PM »
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Looking at the terrain you and il padrone cover I can see why you want to carry so much gear.
Yes! Ian, though Pete and I couldn't be farther apart geographically, I am so often struck by the similarity in our touring environments, with nearly identical concerns and requirements in nearly all respects. His photos of the caked red clay when it gets wet remind me so much of the wet playa I have slogged through; I've also had to remove a mudguard on occasion and carry it with me until conditions cleared a bit (see attached). The colors may be different, but I figure we're still "Dust Brothers". "Clay Brothers", too! Just add water.

The thing is, the playa looks almost the same dry as wet. At the shoreline of dry lakes, it makes a tephra-like silt where a bike can sink deep enough to support itself unaided. That's a tough slog; churn, more like. Wet, it becomes greasy and sticks to everything and just does not wipe, scrape, or hose off very well if at all. It is a bit like riding through axle grease and all one can really do is...persist. Once it sun-dries, it is almost like a plating and resists wear by brake pads or chain links. Dry, it is a (dusty) dream of smooth hard-pack and fast. After all, this is the venue Richard Noble chose for the Thrust SSC world land-speed record ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Noble ).

Best,

Dan.
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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #112 on: July 03, 2012, 01:00:49 AM »
Those wet outback clay roads....... I don't go near them if I can avoid them. Actually most of my touring is not this sort of conditions - I've just done the one outback tour, and planning to go back to the Red Centre this September for 4 weeks..... and in future I have plans to do the whole around Australia tour, including plenty of outback riding.But most of my touring tends to be the mountain and hill country rough stuff, like this:



and this:



with steep climbs like this  :o:




As for the amount of gear we carry, well we were out for 9 weeks (planned for 10) and went from 38 deg south in Autumn/Winter to about 26 deg south in the Dry. So we needed a range of clothing, and in places (the Oodnadatta Track) needed to carry food for 7-8 days plus water for two nights (~20L each) at a time.

As Danneaux has detailed, my normal touring kit weighs about 20kg. It's trimmed down for what I really need and use. Add to that food (say 10kg) and water (20kg) and we were probably towing 50kg. But you know, it made very little difference to the ride. The landscape out there was remarkably lacking in hill climbs and we covered distance quite OK.
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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #113 on: July 03, 2012, 05:18:23 PM »
Pete
if I rode anywhere in England for 7 or 8 days I would pass within spitting distance of around 50 million people! It's hard to comprehend the space you have.
Best wishes
Ian

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #114 on: July 03, 2012, 06:32:37 PM »
Unbelievable  8)

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #115 on: July 03, 2012, 08:30:27 PM »
Ian, Jags,

My problem is often a complete lack of towns and stores to resupply. Because the economic recession has hit Great Basin towns so hard, communities there are losing stores, population, post offices, and finally their lives as communities, and the natural result is one ghost town after another added to the roster.

In January 2011, Empire, NV effectively disappeared. Typical story, explained here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15360661
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/21/empire-nevada-recession_n_881816.html
http://www.npr.org/2011/06/20/137304964/shuttered-plant-marks-the-end-of-a-nevada-town
http://www.mybekins.com/mymovingnews/index.php/2011/article1585/

It was a company town, owned by the factory that mined and crushed and transported the gypsum used to make the plaster-filled wallboard used in new houses. With the downturn in the economy and the huge number of bank housing foreclosures nationwide, fewer new houses are being built. The parent company of the one in Empire decided it was no longer "economically viable" to continue operations, so nearly 400 dependent people...the school...and the one store in town were closed six months later. Gerlach is nearby, and receives annual infusions of tourist dollars from the Burning Man festivals that take place in a corner of Black Rock Desert just outside of town. Other than that, it is for the most part a retirement community, served by a single doctor who travels about 117mi/188km from Reno to provide care. A friend tells me this will soon end, and seniors will have to manage the drive themselves. Now Empire is gone, Gerlach has only 12 students in its schools. In Oregon's Outback, the kids are sent to boarding school in Crane for the entire school year. Most end up marrying each other after graduation. A woman I know patrols her fenceline with her helicopter. It's Big country, and very remote.

The store at Valley Falls, OR closed when the owners could no longer pay their fuel bill and had to close the petrol station that was the main source of revenue. When that went, so did the store, the social hub of the community, and much of the population. The nearest gasoline is in Lakeview, 22 miles to the south, or in Riley, 90mi/145km away. Wagontire (population...1 Danneaux the last time I stayed there) is gone. The cafe, mini-store, small motel and gas pumps that were thriving in August 2009 were all gone in June 2010 and the town abandoned. Even the International Airport was closed ("International" 'cos a Canadian once landed his airplane there and on takeoff snagged the barbed-wire keeping the free-range cows off the end of the runway. Hence, "International"). The parents of a friend of a friend used to own the place, and I really should ask what happened.

Fort Bidwell, California is in a similar fix. Residents there have a post office with very limited hours and delivery that is on the roster of locations to close as the US Post Office tries to contain costs and retool to meet reduced financing. There is an Indian reservation there and a very small convenience store with limited hours on the edge of the res. The town is essentially gone. The nearest medical care for seniors living there is in Cedarville (population 514), 50mi round-trip away, and there's not exactly state-of-the-art facilities when you get there. There's two stores there -- a general store with about everything, and another little-bitty store on the corner with beer and cold pop and some close-dated canned goods and chips.

Bobby Putney graduated from the same North Eugene High School I attended, and now owns the only motel/restaurant/store/RV park in Denio, NV. It serves burgers, fries, steaks, and pop or beer. The little "store" is 5 shelves on a wall. Lots of chips and candy, a few cans of tuna, not a whole lot more for the hungry bike tourist. Denio used to be in Oregon till it was moved on skids to the Nevada side of the line for tax purposes. That's now Old Denio, with...nothing. New Denio *is* Bobby Putney. Most of his traffic comes from the crossroads tourist traffic and the opal mines. The molybdenum mine was big once, but not after the worldwide market price for moly declined, resulting in massive layoffs. The waitress I chatted with at Bobby's had worked there, and her boyfriend is operating a little 1-man opal mine. Save Denio! Buy more Thorns! They have tubing with traces of molybdenum and chromium, alloyed with steel. Cro-moly "Steel is Real" has a different meaning for these folks.

I've attached a photo showing the entire grocery section of the Adel General Store. There's a couple cans of oil for cars, some windshield-cleaning fluid, and tire-sealing Slime. For people, there's pop, chips, barbecue sauce, canned tomatoes, ketchup and mustard for burgers, canned refried beans, two jars each of peanut butter and mayonnaise, a package of dead-tale taco shells, a little canned fruit, and a small sack of flour and another of sugar and that's pretty much it. This is what I can expect to find in the area if a store is still open. The owners are wonderfully nice people, at retirement age and looking to get out. The husband is in ill halth, and his wife is handling much of the operation, including the gas pumps. One day, I came through and the whole shootin' match (gun references are part of the lexicon in my part of the world) was closed 'cos she had an appointment with the dentist in Lakeview. In Plush, the residents go into Lakeview, OR or Winnemucca with empty horsetrailers and return with them full of enough goods to keep themselves and neighbors in food for the next couple months, according to one fellow I spoke with. Winnemucca, NV is a hub for Great Basin residents. It is a 418mi/672km round-trip from Plush to Winnemucca. Better to go to Klamath Falls, a 270mi/435km RT or Bend, at 406mi/653km. In winter? Not easy. Surprise Valley/Barrel Springs temperatures can drop to minus 28F/minus 33C. This is ranching country, and restaurants have lots of eggs and bacon for breakfast, and beef for everything else. I had to wait for the steak in my burger to finish roasting and when it was delivered, the cook/owner/waitress cheerfully announced, "Fresh as fresh can be; this was a cow just this morning!" Tasty, but unlike store goods, it's a one-shot meal, eaten on the spot and good for only a few hours. Kinda heavy in the stomach, too, and there has to be some law stating such eateries must be sited just before a gut-busting climb.

Yes, getting supplies is a struggle Out There. That's why I have to haul half a store with me, and water to match. Bike shop? What's that?

Best,

Dan.

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #116 on: July 03, 2012, 09:45:49 PM »
Hi All!

Attached are a couple maps, showing where the Great Basin is located in America, and its extent in relation to where I live and pedal from (below). There is some difference among geographers about the GB's exact borders, hence the difference in outlines on the two maps.

More information on this interesting region is available here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Basin

Best,

Dan.
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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #117 on: July 04, 2012, 12:53:36 PM »
Hi Dan

a timely post - I'm reading about the Great Basin in John Wesley Powell's account of his trip along the Colorado River and it all makes sense now.  I've just returned from 2 weeks in your amazing country (Arizona and Utah).  Crossing desert in a car can be intimidating for us Brits, used to seeing habitation and rest areas every few miles.  But I loved it - I can see the appeal.

Here's a post card.  In the distance, unbeknown to me at the time, is a lonely cyclist heading my way.  I'm too stunned to take a photo as he draws near and he seems to be suffering - so I shout 'Allez'.  He's on a Specialized Roubaix - just a water bottle and full Lycra - so I guess he'll get the 'Allez' bit.  He does - he gives a kick and sprints past with a smile as I watch in amazement.  You guys are tough.  Good luck

Ian


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« Reply #118 on: July 04, 2012, 04:01:38 PM »
Ian,

Nice photo, brought back some good memories for me from summer 1992 (20 years ago!) when I cycled from New Mexico to Alaska.
I rode along the road in your photo with Josie Dew who I happened to meet outside a supermarket a couple of days previously and we cycled together for a few days.
Photo : http://www.flickr.com/photos/rualexander/397580353/in/set-72157594548178714

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Re: Danneaux's Sherpa
« Reply #119 on: July 04, 2012, 08:59:02 PM »
Ruairidh

thanks.  Your trip looks pretty impressive.  An amazing place to ride a bike.
best

Ian