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horizon

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #150 on: January 28, 2014, 02:09:07 PM »
I don't want to spoil the party but what do you do if you don't like the new colours?

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #151 on: January 28, 2014, 02:12:36 PM »
Spend more time riding it and less time looking at it

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #152 on: January 28, 2014, 02:31:17 PM »
Hope they have an old one in the clearance frame section that fits you? Or buy the silver one, as its the most unobtrusive.

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #153 on: January 29, 2014, 11:38:23 AM »
Actually it's a real problem. There are things I can do, by the way - have it resprayed for a start. But look at it this way: most people are desperately concerned about the colour of their bike. Nearly all men, whatever their protestations about colour not mattering would never choose to own a pink bike. Plenty of other people are persuaded by the colour of a bike (amongst lots of other things they buy like cars and clothes). Most people are happy though with a socially neutral "colour" like grey, i.e. no colour at all - but that's not great for those who like a particular colour.

But now let's look at it from the perspective of a small bike maker like Thorn. They already have four sizes in two different lengths in two colours: that's 16 bike frames to stock. Add two more colours and it's 32 bike frames with only one of each size/colour and from only one bike model. And they are not even half way to satisfying the colour choices of a range of customers.

So part of my post is about looking at the wider issue, not just from my preference. I'm wondering if Thorn wouldn't offer standard colours at a certain price and then a colour choice at an additional cost. Other bike makers do this although AFAIK Bob Jackson don't charge extra. I have a feeling that Thorn themselves have done something similar in the past. It may depend on when, where and by whom the bikes are sprayed/coated. Or could they offer an unpainted frame?

What do people think? And what does Thorn think?   

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #154 on: January 29, 2014, 12:12:46 PM »
I am with you on this and feel that colour is very important (atleast to me). I can sympathise with the stocking issues involved. If it where my company I would offer a lower cost no lead time black powder coating or a longer lead time more expensive bespoke finish through a 3rd party supplier. It would give you the bespoke finish (only available with custom builds) with the tried and tested geometry of a mass(ish) produced frame.

Andy

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« Reply #155 on: January 29, 2014, 12:14:22 PM »
Colour was the deciding factor for me when buying my CT frame. Before choosing the CT I spent ages on the Mercian site playing with the frame builder and always chose BRG or as close to it as possible.  If the CT  had only been available in the new colours when I was looking for a frame then I wouldn't have bought it.

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #156 on: January 29, 2014, 02:23:18 PM »
Bob Jackson do their own painting and their paint shop does alot of other manufacturers as well such as Woodrups. Therefore they are going to be good value.

I agree about colour being important. However you could buy the frameset and then have it resprayed at say Bobs for £100 (website says £90 for a single colour) and then build up your bike at either LBS or yourself.

I doubt you'd get it much cheaper if Thorn were to outsource a bare frame.

If it were me I would buy a stock colour, ride the bike and then when it requires a respray go to Bobs. That is what I will be doing.

I have a Bob Jackson bike that is now 8 year's old. When the new Club Tour arrives I will have the Bob Jackson spruced up, respray and parts replaced.

Steve

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« Reply #157 on: January 29, 2014, 02:53:27 PM »
Blue or Silver will do me fine on a touring bike .when i had my look kx light it was plain white with black decals stunning bike to look at keep it simple, the bling comes from what ever gear you put on it.
nothing beats a brooks saddle on a touring bike after that wheels and tyres,even though i'm not a fan of hub gears ,a nice shiney new rohloff and  schmitt dynamo does a lot  for the appearence of a bike.
listen i know what im talking about i've been drooling over bikes long enough to want one  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #158 on: February 19, 2014, 03:13:24 AM »
From the look of the limited pictures in the new brochure, the rear stays seem to be thinner than those of the previous incarnation of the CT. That model (mk 3??) used fully socketed rear dropouts, necessitating fatter stays (both chain and seat). I found those to create a very stable rear end when carrying loaded rear panniers. Most newer tourers seem to be following this trend these days.

Any reason that the new custom Thorn rear dropouts have reverted back to non-socketed drpouts, thus necessitating more slender stays? At first instance it seems a bit of a retrograde step.

Anyone any ides?
 

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #159 on: February 19, 2014, 09:24:34 AM »
There are three club tours for sale on the sjs site; two for 6ft + one for someone considerably smaller. Good prices too!

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/new-used-cycles-and-frames-dept671_pg1/#filterkey=cat&cat=780&page=1&page=1

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« Reply #160 on: February 19, 2014, 01:31:43 PM »
yeah still after that small club tour,only thing i don't like about it there's only one eyelet  on rear dropout for both mudguard and rack,other that that its fine.

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« Reply #161 on: February 20, 2014, 11:33:17 AM »
Hi Anto,

Back on January 18, I posted in this thread:

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The previous iteration of the Club Tour also [briefly] had a single eyelet, which was picked upon by Chris Juden in the infamous CTC review. I think the response was that this was a temporary aberration ... but here we are again ...


I have such a Club Tour... a 2005 edition. I can see the argument for double eyelets but would you believe it's never been a problem for me? I have had the rear guard and rack in place since new and I think I can say with confidence that it really isn't a show stopper for anyone contemplating a CT. (And yes... the rack does get a bit of use from time to time)

The single eyelet thing is really not a problem. I have not had a moment's bother with it on C2C, LEJOG, a couple of dozen Audaxes and several thousand "other" kilometres.

I wouldn't let it influence a buying decision.

Hope this helps,

(and your weather improves before I get there..... 52 more sleeps)

Cheers,

pj





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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #162 on: February 20, 2014, 12:22:46 PM »
thanks PJ yeah only thing stopping me buying is the lack of money ::)
to be honest i can't see myself getting 200 euro together (i have 300) in the next few months.
so i'de say its a case of saying farewell to thorn club tour for this year,unless of course i sell off this baby
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-LL16-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Natural/dp/B000YI9UE0.
but not having much luck so far. :'(
ah well all good things come to those that wait.
wonder what idiot came up with that line.

jags.

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #163 on: February 20, 2014, 06:45:29 PM »
Ah lads look at this.
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/thorn-club-tour-frame-and-fork-set-prod7579/?geoc=us
can you spot my name on the top tube AntoKelly in gold letters .oh how i would look after that baby,imaging all the fantastic places we would go together ,i think  SJS should hide this frame for me in the darkest corner of there store until i come to rescue it.
please lads in sjs dont sell that little beauti to anyone but me.i'm down on one knee here begging. :'(
i'll sign off now i'm depressed.


jags.

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Re: Club Tour frames still available?
« Reply #164 on: February 20, 2014, 07:37:19 PM »
Is the 517L okay for you with drops, Anto, or a bit long in the reach?

Hoping for the best,

Dan. (...who thinks Tom Petty got it right when he sang "Waiting's the hardest part")