oponion on these cranksets please.

[honesty]

I could be wrong, but I was under the impressing sugino made the cranks for stronglight anyway...

I'm looking to rebuild my dads old bike and that sugino ox801d crank in 46/30 config looks perfect!

[Andre Jute]

I could be wrong, but I was under the impressing sugino made the cranks for stronglight anyway...

Perhaps. But we're not talking about Stronglight-designed or specific and exclusive cranks in the Impact series. What I'm saying is that those are Sugino Japan cranks just relabelled by Stronglight. That's why you can get the same cranks really cheaply from Spa if you live in Britain where the postage is reasonable.

I'm looking to rebuild my dads old bike and that sugino ox801d crank in 46/30 config looks perfect!

Unless you're as knowledgeable as Pete, this is a rod for your own back. The axle fitting is proprietary, and the equally proprietary bottom bracket is available in only one width. Where will you get spares? Sorry to be the one to tell you, and apologies if you're by profession a bike mechanic who shrugs off such difficulties...

Andre Jute

[jags]

Hi All,
I love Sugino cranks for years. I'm looking to get a set of OX801D Compact Plus+ for my next Road/L:ight Tour bike. Look at the Chainring Combinations you can run 

http://www.suginoltd.co.jp/english/ox801d_main_english.htm

Here is a Look See!



Pete
 

wonder where would a fella buy that crankset on this side of the pond,being trying to find it here but no luck any info greatly appreciated, before the wife finds my little stash under the floorboard.
cheers lads
jags.

[NZPeterG]

Hi Jags,
Just Google OX801D Compact Plus+ and I find a few places in only Seconds 

Google is the Number one Tool in any Toolbox 

Pete
 

[honesty]

Perhaps. But we're not talking about Stronglight-designed or specific and exclusive cranks in the Impact series. What I'm saying is that those are Sugino Japan cranks just relabelled by Stronglight. That's why you can get the same cranks really cheaply from Spa if you live in Britain where the postage is reasonable.

I think we are saying the same point here

Unless you're as knowledgeable as Pete, this is a rod for your own back. The axle fitting is proprietary, and the equally proprietary bottom bracket is available in only one width. Where will you get spares? Sorry to be the one to tell you, and apologies if you're by profession a bike mechanic who shrugs off such difficulties...

Andre Jute

Im no bike mechanic, so its probably not a good idea! I was under the impression though that the BB was a generic version of shimano hollowtech, so anything that fits shimano will fit this.

[jags]

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b2s109p2801
just about to press the button this beauti what do you think £8 delivery to ireland .

[Danneaux]

...i have shimano triple on there  dont like them the rings are to big for me...

Jags,

As I recall, your Raleigh already has a triple crankset. If the reason for changing your crankset is because your present gears are too high for you...

• Is it possible to fit smaller 'rings to your present crank?
• If not, then a "tripleizer" middle ring will sometimes allow you to fit a smaller BCD small 'ring if that is the problem. For example: http://www.vintage-trek.com/tripleizer.htm They're usually intended to convert doubles to triples, but can sometimes "downsize" an existing triple by fitting a smaller BCD.
• Is it possible to fit a slightly larger cassette and so lower the gearing that way?

Just a thought or three that might save you a bit of cash towards that Audax down the road.

Best,

Dan. (...who used to sometimes convert Road Doubles to triples with 74mm BCD inner 'rings by drilling and tapping the arms, so thinks tripleizers are a comparatively "easy fix")

[rualexander]

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b2s109p2801
just about to press the button this beauti what do you think £8 delivery to ireland .

Nice chainset, but why not get the Spa own brand and keep the £40 saved in the mk3 fund?

[jags]

very good points lads thanks,the spa ownbrand seems very dull compared to the more newer model,buy yeah i suppose it will do exactly the same job the bottom bracket that suits the crankset is very micky mouse looking bet it weighs a ton jp400
ok plan  B back to spa and see if i can there own brand and maybe change the rings.

[Andre Jute]

http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b2s109p2801
just about to press the button this beauti what do you think £8 delivery to ireland .

That's very pricey, though the delivery is now much cheaper than when I last spoke to them. Here are the same cranksets much much cheaper, priced in Euro so you know what you're paying, €81 landed vs €97 from Spa:
http://www.xxcycle.com/crankset-stronglight-impact-triple,,en.php

In any event, what's wrong with the same thing, unbranded, from Spa for €33 landed, and you fit your own chainrings? http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b0s109p2003 That's a proper Sugino, stamped on the back, and you polish it yourself. It's what I was going to buy, but the Spa carriage back then was more than the cranks...

Andre Jute

[jags]

Thanks Andre any idea what width b/b i should get  my raleigh  b/b shell is 67mm measuring the width with outer bearing bottom bracket  outside to outside is 92mm.

http://www.xxcycle.com/bottom-bracket-stronglight-jp-400-al-bsc,,en.php
i think i'll go wih this by the time i buy spa's own brand and 3 rings it probably will cost as much.
besides that  price from xxcycles is not bad.

[jags]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9NDHpH92U

so should i be going with a 122mm width  
sorry try this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9NDHpH92U.
bit long winded but he's quiet a good mechanic.

[jags]

ok not having much luck on this.
so can i change the rings as Dan suggested on my tiagra triple chainset 5 bolt .50/39/30 thats what's on there at the moment i was hoping for
48/36/28 is it possible to get these  .his could save me a fortune if  it works.

btw i cant see any other numbers on the tiagra chainset.

cheers
jags.

[Danneaux]

Hi jags!

Thanks for the further info on your crankset. Now it is identified as a Tiagra, it is possible to move forward on determining minimum chainring sizes.

According to Sheldon Brown's site ( http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/chainrings/130.html ), the Tiagra uses 130mm BCD middle and large 'rings, accepting down to 38T.

The inner 'ring has a 74mm BCD, meaning it can accept down to a 24T chainring. ( http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/chainrings/74.html )

You mentioned you'd like a 48/36/28. Well...you can get real close fitting new 'rings to your old chrankset: 48/38/28.

Unless I've missed something, that should get you about where you'd like to be.

Now, the question: Would three chainrings cost you as much as a whole entire crankset pre-configured the way you'd like? I suspicion it might.

Hope this helps.

Best,

Dan.

[jags]

Thanks Dan i was just heading to me bed 
your more than likely right the 3 rings would cost as much i reckon if i get the steel bottom bracker 118mm it will cost me 98euro with xxcycles.
anyway i'm off talk tomorrow thanks a million dan your a brick.