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Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop

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Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« on: March 11, 2013, 04:52:48 PM »
You can have any of these in any Single RAL (http://www.ralcolor.com ) powdercoat colour for £600, takes about 10 days (no decals), or £700 in wet paint with decals (takes 4-6 weeks).

They can be bikes if required contact me for details, this is the lot every single Thorn Bridgwater made frame we have left.



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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 05:24:04 PM »
AndyBG! Jawine! Thorn just called with your next frame...   ;D

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 05:34:00 PM »
What type of bike is the Thorn EXP? Is it for Rohloff or derailleur? What's the geometry? I can't find any info on the Thorn website; I assume it's an old model?

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 06:16:30 PM »
The EXP is a geared frameset for v-brakes/canti's. It's described as an expedition bike. I have a PDF catalogue which I could email you; this is copied from the front page:

We have manufactured expedition
touring bikes for many years... our
bikes have always carried heavy loads
well and are comfortable and reliable.
We believe that the definition of an
expedition touring bike should be “a
reliable bicycle that can carry heavy
loads in comfort”.
If you agree with our definition then
you must be amazed that such a
simple brief has been mishandled by
other bicycle manufacturers.
The main issues in detail...
Reliability
This means that, severe accidents
excepted, things shouldn’t go wrong
with any of the major components -
wheels, tyres, brakes, bottom brackets,
headsets, pedals, chains. It means
that the frame itself should not fail
and it should mean that the bike can
take a knock.
Other manufacturers try to get
under-specified headsets and bottom
brackets past unsuspecting
customers, because these important
components are buried deep inside
the frame and are neither obvious
nor “sexy”. The quality of wheel
building or, rather, the lack of it on
many bikes has to be seen to be
believed. Some manufacturers supply
tyres that they know are likely to fail
if the bikes are ridden any distance...
well they should know... they have
had enough sent back as returns!
Several UK manufacturers and small
builders offer “expedition” frames in
Columbus Nivachrom. Nivachrom
is excellent for racing frames, it’s
designed intended use, but it is
not available in sufficient thickness
(gauge) to make it able to stand up to
knocks in the short term or internal
rust in the long term. If it’s made of
Nivachrom it’s not an expedition bike
by our definition! (We know that
Columbus cannot make Nivachrom in
sufficient thickness... because we’ve
asked!)
Carrying heavy loads
We must say at the beginning that
it is possible to carry most of the
weight in a trailer... there are pros and
cons but we are assuming that all the
weight is to be carried on the bike.
To be capable of carrying a heavy
load, the frame material must be of
sufficient diameter and gauge. If the
tubes are not up to the job then no
amount of frame design will help. If
they are up to the job then it is all
down to the geometry and accuracy
of manufacture.
Whilst the eXp is a fairly long
wheelbase machine, the geometry
of each size varies in proportion to
eXp
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the size of the anticipated rider. The
largest sizes have chainstays in excess
of 18 inches not only to provide
heel clearance but also to allow the
rear panniers to sit more within the
wheelbase of the machine - where
huge weights will have less of an
effect on the front end of the cycle.
The front geometry of the eXp allows
precision in steering, whilst also
maintaining great stability... a difficult
balance to achieve but one, we feel,
we have got spot on!
We will let our frame designer Andy
Blance comment further on our
frame’s geometry... “If you are ever
forced to descend from the
mountains in freezing temperatures,
down rough washed out gravel roads,
in the darkness, by dynamo light,
carrying 30kg of luggage, you will
know how important geometry can
be. If you are ever really tired,
suffering from flight-induced vertigo
and you are climbing a steep, heavily
rutted gravel road, carrying 30kg and
you have a 40 tonne quarry truck on
your tail and there is no room to pull
over, you will again know how
important geometry can be... I have
experienced both of these things
in the development of the eXp and
I know it is PERFECT. The rush by
dynamo down the mountain was one
of the highlights of my life - the
quarry truck I could have done
without!’ “The whole point is that
my design can be heavily loaded and
still be responsive, accurate and fun
to ride... your eXp can allow you to
savour those distant mountains and
waterfalls without having to
concentrate exclusively on a
difficult bit of road. I am proud to
have designed this bike... especially
because I know that nobody,
anywhere, makes anything that is at
all comparable.”
Derailleur equipped 26 inch wheel - Expedition touring bike
M8 x 0.75mm drain plug.
Exclusive Twin Plate frok crown.
Comfort
There are two types of comfort...
physical and mental. A bike of the
right size and proportion with well
chosen accessories will provide
physical comfort. A reliable bike that
handles well, provides stress free
cycling. Our eXp is made in 6 seat
tube sizes XXS to XL, each of which is
available with short, medium or long
top tubes. Every one of these 18 sizes
has been designed to outperform
any competition and to last for at
least one lifetime!
Attention to detail
We have always excelled in this area
... but the eXp offers more:
1. Oversize rear brake hanger for
heavy duty performance.
2. Lowrider bosses are provided
- these are wide enough to allow the
carrier to be fitted without needing
spacers.
3. Our exclusive “X” seat stay bridge
not only reduces twist in the massive
19mm stays under braking but adds
considerably to the rigidity of the
carrier.
4. We use massively strong rear
dropouts... if you were to build a
perfect frame and ride it forever it
would have to fail somewhere
eventually. The right hand side rear
dropout is where other frames fail...
we don’t expect ours to fail here.
5. The eXp has been given an M8 x
0.75mm drain plug for even better
access into the seat tube.
6. Most fillet brazed frames and all
T.I.G. welded frames have a small hole
drilled in the bottom bracket shell
to allow the seat tube to breathe.
Condensation collects in the trap
created by the seat tube/bottom
bracket shell joint and rust will
develop in this highly stressed area.
We machine the shell so that our seat
tube fits inside the shell and all
condensation drops into the shell -
from where it can be drained away.
7. The top tube, down tube, seatstays,
chainstays, fork blades and
bridges are completely sealed.
These will never rust from the inside.
We even fit stainless steel, blind
ended bottle bosses into the down
tube, and we also use these in the
seatstay and chainstay bridges...
NOBODY ELSE DOES THAT... YET!
The seat tube must be open because
of the seatpost - look after that with
“WAXOYL®” using the large drain
plug and you will be able to hand the
frame over to your grandchildren!
 

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 06:30:16 PM »
Hi Dan. Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I'm in the bad books bike wise. Took the new eXp out for a spin at the weekend and didnt really gel with it so the wife has banned me from spending more then 500ukp on a bike without test riding it first. Am going to have to wait till I can get over to the UK for a test ride before investing in a new bike. (Although I did buy a bike yesterday but it was below the 500ukp so it was test ride exempt).

Been out in the garden all day landscaping (jeez you think riding is hard work). Might fit a couple of hour ride in before bedtime on the trusty Nomad.

Andy

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 08:11:36 PM »
Now this an Aladin's cave to look in. What are the bracketed numbers after some frames? Apologies for being a bit 40W!

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 10:12:08 PM »
Hi Dan. Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I'm in the bad books bike wise. Took the new eXp out for a spin at the weekend and didnt really gel with it so the wife has banned me from spending more then 500ukp on a bike without test riding it first. Am going to have to wait till I can get over to the UK for a test ride before investing in a new bike. (Although I did buy a bike yesterday but it was below the 500ukp so it was test ride exempt).

Been out in the garden all day landscaping (jeez you think riding is hard work). Might fit a couple of hour ride in before bedtime on the trusty Nomad.

Andy
say Andy dont give up on that bike yet it's gonna take a few months to realize its a dinger so don't go selling it just yet.

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 09:09:14 AM »
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What are the bracketed numbers after some frames? Apologies for being a bit 40W!

Each frame has a ref number doen't mean anything to anyone other than us really.

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 09:31:16 AM »
Found some Audax frames too, just added to the original post.

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 10:29:24 AM »
I have no money for this, but, blimey I'd love to have a look around the stock room where you can lose a couple of frames! :)

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2013, 10:34:29 AM »
The only one that may be perfect is the 490S audax bike... the XTC and eXp are all too long in the top tubes which is the only thing that is less than perfect on my beloved XTC steed. A 525S or 500S would be fab. I'd need to sell my soul on e-bay but hey you can't cycle on that :P

An audax while nice is not a replacement for the XTC as I need the MTB clearance for the crappy roads here in winter...and yes I already have a steel road bike...well soonish been all over e-bay for late 70s Campagnolo parts.

Anyways hope sale goes well these bikes too good to be languishing! I shall ping the 6"2' manfriend as he mentioned "he may want an expedition tourer" at some point, eXp frame?  

Pedal to the metal! Wind, rain, hills, braking power permitting ;)

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2013, 01:51:46 PM »
Updated, some sizes have sold out already

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2013, 12:51:21 PM »
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The only one that may be perfect is the 490S audax bike... the XTC and eXp are all too long in the top tubes which is the only thing that is less than perfect on my beloved XTC steed. A 525S or 500S would be fab. I'd need to sell my soul on e-bay but hey you can't cycle on that Tongue

A customer has just bought in a 525S XTC in Cobalt blue, frame is 8yrs old and has touch up marks on it, all the parts are new, he just did a frame swap from a new Sherpa from the website. The whole bike will be £900 with Deore/Dura-Ace Bar end/9speed LX Mech mudguards etc no racks.

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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2013, 07:36:13 PM »
I guess you are not willing to sell just the frame? The group on my XTC still fine just swapped two chainrings and bottom bracket :)
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Re: Thorn Factory Clearance Frame Sale
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2013, 09:11:48 PM »
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I guess you are not willing to sell just the frame? The group on my XTC still fine just swapped two chainrings and bottom bracket

Sorry no, you could swap the bits though and have another bike to sell  ;D