Thorn EXP 500M Powder Coat Green

[Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop]

Hi,

Before I do a full listing for this on the website, anyone want to make me a sensible offer for it? They used to retail for over a thousand pounds as a frame only.  Its new but has been hanging up in my office for about 5yrs. Made by our frameshop out of Reynolds 725. Its a deralieur one finished in powder coat british racing green.

Any Q's just ask.

[brummie]

What is the bare metal frame in the pic? Looks more my size !

[Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop]

What is the bare metal frame in the pic? Looks more my size ! Grin

An old Audax frame designed for 26" wheels with 1.25" max tyres, and drop brakes, as its a traditional design its actually a smaller size than the EXP!

[JWestland]

I can't find 500M in the sizing brochures...

What is the virtual top tube and virtual seat tube length please?

[Andybg]

Here is the link to the archive of the brochure

Andy

[Andybg]

Virtual top tupe is 535

Andy

[JimK]

looks like a horizontal top tube, so wouldn't virtual seat tube = real = 500mm?

[Andybg]

Seat tube is 450 with a slope of 50mm.

Not quite level but certainly not a compact

Andy

[JWestland]

My 525L XTC is 55.5 VT...53,5 better and I can swap over wheels and everything then flog XTC frame.

Dave in your experience on Thorn selling e-bay items what is a realistic min-max price?

[Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop]

If properly listed and photo'd in a medium/large size in good condition I have seen them make fron £200-400... but eBay is always a bit of a lottery now isn't the best time of year to eBay cycling stuff. 

[JWestland]

Tx

£200 is a steal for a UK made new frame, so is £400.

I did some calculations, 53.5 is still a tad long I think, better off with 50-51 TT mark. I need to every so slightly reach which causes stiff shoulders, so in the long run I need to find another frame. I am 5.5 and take drops.

Is there anything handmade in UK vintage Thorn (second hand OK) lying about at the 51 TT mark that takes 26" wheels? An XTC frame would be the bees knees of course. I love mine.

Can then simply do swapsies on parts on my XTC and the 525L will make somebody around 6 foot mark happy.

Audax frame doesn't suit I need big clearances to take MTB tires for winter...the path I traverse on Wednesday was a veritable ice rink with free entry

[Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop]

We dont have anything else at the moment, we have some XTC frames in bare metal, we would need to get them painted etc though.

[JWestland]

I am happy to buy a bare frame if you can supply decals with it

If you are going to powdercoat I can let that get done locally.
If it's enamel I am happy to wait, nobody can do that locally.

Stick my name on the list please for a shorter TT one

As even the 525L which is a tad too large was murder too find, all the XTCs on e-bay/gumtree so far are for Tall People not ShortArses

(Jags will know what I am talking about 

[Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop]

I've added to my last post the sizes we have, they never used decals on the XTC they were stenciled graphics, we can only supply bare metal without warranty as the people we use go through various processes to make sure the metal isn't damaged and they dont rot inside, not saying whoever you use wont. The frames painted would be about £6-700 depending on the finish you want.

And for ref

£200 is a steal for a UK made new frame, so is £400.

I thought you were asking what you might get for your XTC frame used. I expect a frame like this would get £400+ really.

[JWestland]

Never seen a bare used XTC frame bar one on here/CTC ages ago, which indeed was £250 mark. Whole XTCs go for no less than £450 on Fleabay.

Thanks for the headsup, is the TT on the 455M/L 520 mm? And the TT on the 455S is 480mm?

As per brochure here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060321052120/http://www.sjscycles.com/thornpdf/ThornxTc853BroHiRes.pdf

What frame material is used, are the 455s XTC frames 853 or 725?

RE e-mail I sent RE Nomad MK1 480 TT I take it?