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richie thornger

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #90 on: September 23, 2013, 03:44:57 PM »
Cheers Guys, I had a Topeak Mountain Morph before and yes I had to replace parts of the connector that got lost.
I'll order in some of those washer adapters and get them sent in my next parcel . Cheers
I realised if you use different valve caps to the one supplied they can thread into the core.
Thus if they screwed in well could unscrew the correct and bye bye lovely air.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #91 on: September 25, 2013, 09:04:18 AM »
Hi All. I've done 50km on my newly replaced BB and I can feel a "grinding" feeling when I pedal.
Only when I pedal. I've loosened off the end cap and given the chain another oil but it's still there.
Any one got any ideas?
I used copper ease for greasing as that was alli had.
Could it be that???
Just on the edge of my first mountain so would like to get it sorted whilst still in a town.
I changed the rohloff oil and shortened the chain at the same time. Chain is not too right.
Cheers as ever for any help.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #92 on: September 25, 2013, 12:21:55 PM »
Richie

Sounds like a fantastic trip - enjoying your updates!

I have recently completed the North Sea Cycle Route and at one point I thought my bottom bracket was on the way out. On closer examination,
there was a lot of fine grit where the crank attaches to the bottom bracket. The bearings are sealed so I assumed that no grit had got into the bearings.

I flushed it with some water withe bike upright then put some fine oil on each side with the bike on its side each time. The grinding soon stopped and I have had no further grinding sounds.

Worth a try? Let us know how you get on.

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #93 on: September 25, 2013, 03:09:23 PM »
The grinding feeling is maybe related to your chain meshing with the chainring and sprocket slightly differently than it was before you took it off, what sprocket and chainring sizes are you using? If they are both with an even number of teeth then the chain wears in a fixed pattern and unless you put it back on in the same meshing pattern it will feel grindy until it wears itself in.

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #94 on: September 25, 2013, 05:14:55 PM »
Hi guys
 Thanks for the info. just a quick reply b4 my battery goes.
I'll give both your suggestions a go and report back.
cheers.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2013, 11:16:10 AM »
I am in the unusual position today of doing exactly what I thought I would do before I started my tour. That is: get to somewhere exhausted, have a rest day and catch up with bike and internet things. Somehow it never happens like that. I'm after too exhausted still and have no energy for anything or I get distracted and end up doing something else. I've just done my first bit of desert riding and lived to tell the tale...just. I'm currently in the annexe of a mosque in Jandaq which is the first place with people/water/food for 150km since leaving Mo'alleman, but more on that in my blog if I can upload it.
Chain & BB grinding noise:
Option 1: Take off the cups and give a clean with water to see if grit has got in. This involves A: work and B: me finding a pair of grips to loosen the cups.
Option 2: Chain meshing in. This involves riding the bike.
I've surprisingly gone for option 2.  ;D
 I've got a 40t and a 17t so is it still possible it could be meshing problems. I've done a few hundred km since Gorgan and its still there. Only under load, which explains why I didn't notice it at first, it was all down hill, but still there. It doesn't seem to have got any worse though.

I believe I had the lowest Rohloff approved gear combo when I left. But I've heard that you can now go lower. Is this correct? What's the new combo?
Richie can never have a low enough gearing  :D
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2013, 02:11:43 PM »
yeah Rohloff lowered the limit, at least if you're under 100 kg.

from http://www.rohloff.de/en/products/speedhub/sprocket/

"The higher the chainring/sprocket ratio, the lower the input torque to the gear-unit. It is imperative therefore that the chainring/sprocket factor does not drop below 2.10 (e.g. 36/17=2.11). The smallest permissible sprocket ratios for a rider weighing less than 100kg are: 36:17, 34:16, 32:15 and 28:13.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2013, 02:12:41 PM »
Hi Richie!

Yes, Rohloff have revised their ratios. I had been running a 40x17 and now have a 36x17 combo and like it very much.

The result is a 15 gear-inch low to an 80 gear-inch high, which I have found suitable for my spinning style of pedaling (at 120RPM, I spin-out of the 80 gear-inch high at 28mph/45kph) and figure gravity/coasting will take me faster if need be downhill -- not fast enough for many).

I am running a 104BCD Shimano Deore external-bearing crank and BB and chose Surly's stainless chainring (Surly's choices are limited in the 104BCD size and 36T is the largest available currently).  So you'll have the data ready to hand, here is the the Surly chainring link if you choose to go that route: http://surlybikes.com/parts/drivetrain/stainless_steel_chainrings
Surly stainless 'ring size chart here:
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Sizes: 94mm BCD x 30t, 31t, 32t, 33t, 34t, 35t and 36t
104mm BCD x 32t, 33t, 34t, 35t and 36t
110mm BCD x 34t, 35t, 36t, 38t, 39t, 40t, 42t, 44t, 46t, 47t, 48t, 49t and 50t
130mm BCD x 38t, 39t, 40t, 42t, 44t, 46t, 47t, 48t, 49t and 50t

Best,

Dan.

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #98 on: October 08, 2013, 07:16:52 AM »
Cheers guys for the gearing answers.
Quick question about the new low gearing.
Is the gearing you mention Dan the lowest you can go and stay in warranty?
Whats the thinking behind a Stainless ring.
If I change should I change the chain and /or the rear cog at the same time?
Cheers..
More desert updates to follow :)
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #99 on: October 08, 2013, 07:40:41 AM »
Hi Richie!

Some quick answers for you...
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Is the gearing you mention Dan the lowest you can go and stay in warranty?
Yes, at present, thanks to Rohloff's revised standards.
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Whats the thinking behind a Stainless ring.
Extremely tough and long-wearing. Stainless is harder than aluminum. Teeth are tougher, too, if you manage to high-center on something. Added advantage: If you're contemplating a Hebie Chainglider, the thinner Surly stainless 'ring will fit with minimal rubbing, unlike the very high quality but thicker Thorn 'ring. However, Hebie don't (yet) make a 36T front-piece for the Chainglider; 38T is their current minimum.

If you go with a Surly stainless chainring, do note Surly's caution that in some sizes/BCDs, the 'ring is a bit thick for 9-sp chains and will bind slightly for a bit till the chain adapts:
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Our 94bcd,104bcd and 110bcd x 34/35/36t chainrings are made with a 2.2-2.3mm thick stock plate and work best with 5-8 speed chains. Many folks are using these on 9 speed drivetrains but this can often results in a "tight fit" right out of the box (This will loosen up and shifting should improve after the chain breaks in). The 110bcd 38-50t and all 130bcd chainrings are machine finished to have a 2.1mm tooth thickness and thus work fine with 9spd chains.
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If I change should I change the chain and /or the rear cog at the same time?
Depends entirely on the state of wear for the cog and chain, though of course you'll have smoothest meshing if you change the lot and start fresh. The cog is stainless as well, so the most likely point of wear if things "look good" is the chain. If possible, give it a measure, or keep in mind whether you've had to tension it, as stretch (actually wear at the bushless ends/pins is the key determinant).

Hope this helps!

All the best,

Dan.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #100 on: October 08, 2013, 08:42:57 AM »
Thanks as ever Dan.
Something for me to consider???
Someone is going to bring some bits out to me . I wonder if they will allow a throwing star of death in hand luggage:)

More blog up at www.batmantorobben.com
No new photos because Facebook is not playing nice today :(
Perhaps Mr Rouhani could make a token gesture to the West by allowing foreign cycle tourists to upload pictures of camels and sand :)
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #101 on: October 08, 2013, 08:45:01 AM »
Wow! The Regime the NSA and GCHQ are all listening in. Photos uploading as we speak. :)
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #102 on: October 08, 2013, 09:43:57 AM »
OK. Photos are up. Most of my photos have a comment on them. Some of them don't make any sense unless you read the comment.
I'm now in Nain, the geographical centre of Iran. My deserteering has mainly finished now. I'm just deciding where to go next.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #103 on: October 08, 2013, 05:34:40 PM »
Wonderful photos, Richie; captions, too!

All the best,

Dan.

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2013, 11:16:41 AM »
Can't find the Stainless ring on the Thorn site???
Any ideas for a UK seller??
Cheers

What chain are using with your setup Dan?
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