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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2013, 05:28:03 PM »
So great to get the real ground level story! Going places in person is the best but hearing real experiences is priceless too.

Thanks for sharing!

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #46 on: February 27, 2013, 10:24:27 AM »
Could someone please point me to the link for packing a Thorn S&S bicycle. I've looked everywhere but no joy. It's probably because I'm not using the correct spelling of S&S/S+S/S and S????
Many Thanks.

Still in Tehran....Looking to take the Nomad on a plane.

Update to bicycle shops in Tehran.
There is a Specialized dealer on Vali-Asr Street (The main South-North Rd) its on the left hand side, approx 100metres north of Vanak Square.
Plenty of bikes but not many spares, although I did pick up a Specialized Presta 26" Tube. 300,000 IRR £5.50
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #47 on: February 27, 2013, 10:50:26 AM »
Richie,
Is this what you are looking for?
http://www.sandsmachine.com/index.html#pack
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #48 on: February 27, 2013, 11:50:39 AM »
Cheers! I seem to remember seeing something about it on the actual Thorn site but this is excellent. Now to squeeze in the racks, mudguards and uncut stem  ???
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #49 on: April 13, 2013, 11:08:09 AM »
AAAAAAHHHH! I just spent 30 mins typing a post but because my photo was too large I got an error message and the whole post has disappeared?
Is lurking somewhere hidden??
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #50 on: April 13, 2013, 11:10:26 AM »
Phew!! A lot of back tracking and i found it.
Hello All, As you may or not know I'm currently in the Northern Terrortorries of Pakistan. The bicycle and 90% of my luggage are back in Tehran. I had to get my Pakistan visa whilst still in the UK and what with my general slow way of travelling and the odd spell in custody my six months was nearly up to use my visa. I therefore decided to go on a small trip to India by plane and then onto Pakistan. As I had not done much cycling in Iran and the flight was cheap I decided to leave the bike in Iran and go back when Im done in Pakistan and carry on the "bike" tour on my return. This is of course if I manage to get my 3rd visa for iran. With the elections coming up in May there is a definite possibilty that I may get refused. I will cross this bridge when I come to it.
On the tour front and info that may be of use to people coming in a similar direction: My kindle 3g has worked in every country I've visited except for Kurdistan/Iraq. What used to be a use in an emergency gizmo is now just as quick as going to an internet cafe :)
On my Indian / Pakistan "Holiday" I decide to try an experiment of carrying as little luggage as possible. Just one tiny 20 litre back pack. No laptop. just the point and shoot camera and very little clothes. Its been lovely travelling with less clutter and as this part of the world has such cheap hotels its not been a problem with accomodation. My hotel at the moment is two pound twenty a night but you have to have pretty low standards to stay there:) My standards are pretty low now :)
The things I've missed the most are my good camera and my laptop. If you have technology with you the laptop just makes every element of using that technology so much easier. Especially backing up photos and videos. And fixing corrupt memory cards. Its all possible in internet cafes but takes up so much time.
I've never owned a tablet but perhaps I might like to try one out for a few months to see what the pros and cons are vs a small laptop.
I definitely took too much gear with me on this trip. I'm going to experiment again in Iran by trying to shed a load of it and see how I get on. The weather will be a lot hotter when I return so bulky warm items will not be needed.
Multi climate travelling is a lot more hassle.
Another thing I was hoping to do was back up my photos and videos online as i went. This is ok in Europe and Turkey but the internet speed gets painfully slow in Iraq,Iran and Pakistan.
I've been using a program to reduce all my photos to upload them. At some stage this little program developed a virus and has caused more troubles than it has saved. No problems at all whilst doing everything on my own laptop.
Hope these little titbits help someone.
At some points I really wish I had the bike here travelling along the KKH (Karakoram Highway) at others I'm glad to be in the safety of a bus. Taliban, local issues/general lawlessness all make for a very interesting region at the moment. And the KKH is sometimes pure blissful blacktop and at others shredded bumpy granite.
Until the next time.....
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #51 on: April 13, 2013, 04:55:26 PM »
Wonderful update with much useful information for others, Richie; thanks so much!

As for future Forum posts...

If you can write the post -- and post it -- *then* post the photos as attachments later ("Modify Post" option, you'll ensure your post stays intact even if the photos later prove to be too big. So sorry you ran into problems. I know how frustrating it can be after putting a lot of time into writing.

Take care be safe, and know out good thoughts are with you.

All the best,

Dan.

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2013, 05:05:01 PM »
Cheers Dan, noted for next time :)
I am currently under self imposed house arrest waiting for my visa extension to be sorted here in Pakistan.
With the electioneering in full effect and suicide bombs and assassinations left, right and centre it's an interesting place to be at this time!
Luckily I'm up in Gilgit who keep out of the elections so I'm nice and safe.
That said I would definitely recommend cycling the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakoram_Highway.
 I would be back here with the bike in an instance If the visa wasn't so much of a hassle.
Luckily I'm up in Gilgit who keep out of the elections so I'm nice and safe.

With the upcoming Giro and TdF I'm wondering if anybody knows of any TV channels it might be showing on?
What station shows the cycling in the US? I'm not sure If i'll be in Pakistan,India or Iran but any info would be great. Pakistan has Star Sports. But I can't find any info about either.
Internet is no good because the connection is soooooooo slow.

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2013, 05:22:35 PM »
Glad you're presently okay, Richie; please stay safe!

US televised coverage of the TdF amd other races are pretty much limited primarly to expanded for-pay cable coverage on what is now known as the NBC Sports Network (NBCSN) an secondarily to summary broadcasts on over-the-air NBC here in the States. NBCSN started as the Outdoor Life Network (OLN), was renamed to Versus, and now is NBCSN with expanded cycling coverage (Yay! though I don't get it on my rooftop antenna, sad). I don't see mention of the Giro.

The complete NBCSN/NBC cycling broadcast schedule is here: http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/50797969/ns/sports-cycling/ All times listed are for US Eastern time zone. In case you can't access it, here is a summary...
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Sunday, April 7
Paris Roubaix, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Sunday, April 21
Liege Bastogne Liege, 2 a.m., NBCSN

Tuesday, April 23
Fleche Wallonne, 2 a.m., NBCSN

Sunday, May 5
Amgen Tour of California, 5:30 p.m., NBCSN

Sunday, May 12
Tour of Turkey, 2 a.m., NBCSN
Amgen Tour of California Stage 1, 5 p.m., NBCSN

Monday, May 13
Amgen Tour of California Stage 2, 5 p.m., NBCSN

Tuesday, May 14
Amgen Tour of California Stage 3, 5 p.m., NBCSN

Wednesday, May 15
Amgen Tour of California Stage 4, 5 p.m., NBCSN

Thursday, May 16
Amgen Tour of California Stage 5, 4:30 p.m., NBCSN

Friday, May 17
Amgen Tour of California Stage 6, 5 p.m., NBCSN

Saturday, May 18
Amgen Tour of California Stage 7, 7 p.m., NBCSN

Sunday, May 19
Amgen Tour of California, 1 p.m., NBCSN
Amgen Tour of California Stage 8, 6:30 p.m., NBCSN

Sunday, June 2
USA Cycling Pro Championships, 1 p.m., NBCSN
Criterium Dauphine Libere, 11 p.m., NBCSN

Monday, June 3
Criterium Dauphine Libere, Noon, NBCSN

Sunday, June 9
Criterium Dauphine Libere, 5 p.m., NBCSN

Saturday, June 29
Tour de France Stage 1, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Sunday, June 30
Tour de France Stage 2, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Monday, July 1
Tour de France Stage 3, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Tuesday, July 2
Tour de France Stage 4, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Wednesday, July 3
Tour de France Stage 5, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Thursday, July 4
Tour de France Stage 6, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Friday, July 5
Tour de France Stage 7, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Saturday, July 6
Tour de France Stage 8, 8 a.m., NBC

Sunday, July 7
Tour de France Stage 9, 8 a.m., NBC

Tuesday, July 9
Tour de France Stage 10, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Wednesday, July 10
Tour de France Stage 11, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Thursday, July 11
Tour de France Stage 12, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Friday, July 12
Tour de France Stage 13, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Saturday, July 13
Tour de France Stage 14, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Sunday, July 14
Tour de France Stage 15, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Tuesday, July 16
Tour de France Stage 16, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Wednesday, July 17
Tour de France Stage 17, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Thursday, July 18
Tour de France Stage 18, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Friday, July 19
Tour de France Stage 19, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Saturday, July 20
Tour de France Stage 20, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Sunday, July 21
Tour de France Stage 21, 8 a.m., NBCSN

Sunday, August 18
Pro Cycling Challenge Preview Show, 3:30 p.m., NBCSN

Monday, August 19
Pro Cycling Challenge Prologue, 5 p.m., NBCSN

Tuesday, August 20
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 1, 4 p.m., NBCSN

Wednesday, August 21
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 2, 4 p.m., NBCSN

Thursday, August 22
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 3, 4 p.m., NBCSN

Friday, August 23
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 4, 4 p.m., NBCSN

Saturday, August 24
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 5, 2:30 p.m., NBCSN
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 5, 4:30 p.m., NBCSN

Sunday, August 25
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 6, 2 p.m., NBCSN
Pro Cycling Challenge Stage 6, 4 p.m., NBCSN

Sunday, October 13
Paris Tours, 4 p.m., NBCSN
Additional story here: http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2012-articles/march/nbc-to-pick-up-tour-de-france-coverage-from-nbcsn.html

Hope this helps, especially if you're near a means to access cable/satellite feeds.

I always enjoy your posts, Richie, both here and on your blog. You're in good thoughts.

All the best,

Dan.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2013, 05:33:25 PM »
Cheers Dan,
I have no idea if that will carry to where I will be. I have seen some of the biggest sat dishes in my life over here so who knows whats possible with dodgy boxes and a lot of clever local know how ;0

I'm getting in the spirit though, I've just picked up a Pinarello Sidermec top circa 1985 for the grand price of 200 Pakistani Rupees approx $2. 

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2013, 05:38:22 PM »
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I've just picked up a Pinarello Sidermec top circa 1985 for the grand price of 200 Pakistani Rupees approx $2.

 :o :o :o WOW!!!  ;D ;D ;D

What fun! and for the price! Wow, again! (we want blog photos of it, of course).

All the best,

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« Reply #56 on: April 30, 2013, 12:31:21 PM »
It;s been 6 months since I've been on the road and a few things happened to me today soI thought I would just share these few morsels with you to hopefully help anyone in the same boat.

Visa Extensions: Both in Iran and Pakistan I’ve had problems extending my visa. Not getting the extension but the date you are able to extend.  Both these countries have been unwillingly to extend my visa until a few days before the current visa runs out. This doesn’t always fit in with where you are in regards to the nearest  visa office. I pleaded bicycle in Iran and with the help of an Iranian I was able to persuade them I would be in between towns  near expiry.  Today in Pakistan I had to wait for the visa to actually expiry before they would renew it. This actually worked in my favour and was partly due to the visa officer helping me get a few extra days by telling me to come back after the weekend even though my visa had expired.  The side effect of having your visa actually run out is……………
You can not go anywhere that might involve an over zealous army/police checkpoint . In my experience they hardly ever check the date or even look for the stamp. A casual flick of the pages is usually enough to satisfy the mini power trip that lurks within them ?
The other side effect in Pakistan at least…and this may apply to other countries is thus. In Pakistan it is an offence to use a sim card registered to somebody else. Therefore when I registered for mine I had to show my passport and my visa expiry date was entered into the system. When my visa came up for expiry I was sent a text saying my number will be blocked unless I go to a service centre. I went to a service centre when I got this message and they said just come in when you have a new visa. Unfortunately the phone gets blocked until you can do this. Even more unfortunately when you go back to the service centre like I just have it is then that they tell you that they can not unblock it here. I have to go to a main city service centre. In my case that is a 24 hour drive away. I got a 1$ refund but its not the money as I’m sure you;ll appreciate. I will now go and try and register a new sim with a new company.

Whilst in India I had my wallet stolen. I had about 200 pounds in it but more importantly all my credit cards. I had a stash of cash in several other places so was not totally stuck. Once I had contacted all my card issuers and had all the new cards sent out to my home address I got somebody to UPS them out to me. I also had a new tyre sent to me at the same time. This cost me upwards of 50 pounds but was it I kind of killed 3 birds with one stone as I had already had a credit card blocked at the beginning of my trip. This plus the other cards plus the tyre softened the blow of the cost. The parcel arrived in Lahore in 2 days. I got a message saying that I had to pay (7 pounds) 1000 rupees tax (fair enough) although totally disproportionate to what the parcel was worth.  Knowing this might happen I was prepared and just swallowed it.  There was a catch though. It had to be paid in person by cash. Again I’m 24 hours drive away from Lahore. I only managed to overcome this by some helpful people at the hostel im staying at helping me out. Cheers Ashad and co ;) Medina Guest House 1 ,NLI Chowk ,Gilgit Baltistan. 300 rupees for a dorm bed per night 3$. The pound sign does not work on this keyboard!
So that is my 3 pieces of bad luck, I hope this might help someone else avoid a similar problem.
A few other gems I can share with you after 6 months on the road:
Using credit cards to get cash:
I have a Santander Zero Mastercard. The beauty about this card is that there are zero charges for using abroad. What I do is pay cash into the card creating a positive balance and then withdraw cash from ATM's this way I am not charged interest on the cash withdrawal. This was the plan. However I used this card to buy something at a supermarket in Turkey and had my card cloned. The card was immediately blocked but It meant I had to pay for cash withdrawals and foreign bank charges from then on. I now know to stick to using this card strictly for cash withdrawals.
Well I can't really comment on anything bicycle related as I haven’t done that much cycling, but apart from a split tyre on awful terrain the bike has of course been fine.
My 2 pairs of Merino boxer shorts at 30 and 35 pounds a pop where fantastically comfortable for about 3 months, dried very quickly and looked good, but they both started to fall apart after that. Not at all moth induced, just through wear. Rapha and Iceberg brands and they both started to go about the same time. They’ve had a few repairs but its bin time now. On the other side of the Rapha merino coin I have 3 short sleeved base layers and they are all still like new having been worn virtually everyday in rotation with 2 quecha sportwool tops which have started to find holes in the armpits and a few other places. But not through moth. I mention this as I had a merino dhb long sleeve base layer that got mothed after about a month.
I’m now on my 3rd pair of second hand hiking boots. Iraq :Lowa,  lasted 6 weeks, good bit of use cost 10$. Salomon bought in Tehran Bazaar 22$. Sole snapped in half today. Serious use, worn non stop since I bought them about 2 months ago. The hiking has killed them.
Bought a new pair of Hi-Tec today, 1 size too big,need 3 pairs of big socks. Cost 5$.
I looked at my lovely, new ,just worn in Salomon boots as I was packing to leave in October and decided against them at the last minute. Doh!
When I get back to Iran I will by a brand new pair of good European quality boots. There is a bit of a premium on the price compared to home but with the joy of hindsight I know it will cost me that in tax to ship over my own and I will have them from day 1. I am learning ?

PHOTOS and DATA:
I have my laptop and a portable hard drive and regularly back up to at least 3 different places. (After losing 6 months work when I used to make music in the 90’s I am a backup fiend!!)
Still my portable hard drive started to pack up so I posted it home immediately and waited to hear it had arrived home safely before I could relax. Before I left I had planned to back up all my photos to google drive as I went. This was fine in turkey. But Iran,Iraq and Pakistan have had painfully slow internet connections and backing up original size photos has been impossible. I have resorted to 2 alternatives.
1: making small internet friendly size copies of everything and uploading interesting ones to Facebook. Then if connection allows uploading the >1mb copies to google drive and as a final back up…
2: copying the originals to new memory cards and posting them home. This opens another can of worms. In Iran and in Pakistan they have been a bit funny about what you post home. Today in the PO in Pakistan I was getting a letter weighed to find a price. The clerk had seen me put my memory card in the envelope and asked me to come behind the counter. He explained that memory cards were forbidden. As were all electrical items. I kicked up a gentle fuss and I was asked to go to the managers office. He either turned a blind eye or had a different idea of the rules and I was allowed to post my  letter. This did come at a cost. I mentioned to him that I had posted a letter back home to the UK and it had got there in 10 days. I was very impressed. He asked me to write a letter of thanks to him so he could pass on the excellent work his office was doing to his superior. We then had tea.

Hopefully these little nuggets of info can go some way to help anyone else in similar situations.


If all goes well when I return to Iran I am going to travel super light on the bike as an experiment and see what happens. I will take tent, but no cooking items. It will be interesting to see what I can go without.

I'm now off to pickup a motorbike and ride on the highest paved road in the world. The KKH to China.
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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #57 on: April 30, 2013, 01:55:25 PM »
Wonderful account, Richie, almost as good as being there.

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #58 on: April 30, 2013, 02:00:33 PM »
Thanks for the stories, Richie! Shares the experiences wonderfully and definitely helpful for folks dreaming about big trips.

I'm travelling to Seattle every couple months or so, where there is a fun map store, Metzger. I got some nice Gizi maps of China, 1:2000000. Also one Nelle map at 1:1750000. Maybe on my next trip they will have more Nelle maps in stock. It's that road 214 that goes south from Xining that is calling me!

I'm sure that the troubles in China will be a bit different than the troubles in Pakistan or Iran, but just to get a sense of the possibilities, that's a good start!

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Re: Richie's World Tour or Go Mad on a Nomad
« Reply #59 on: April 30, 2013, 04:58:59 PM »
Hi Guys, funny you should mention those two brands of maps. I've got a Gizi map of Iran that was given to me in Turkey and a Nelle map of Pakistan that I left in Iran.
My tour in general was partly sparked by a giant size road atlas of the world. I've had many a fun hour going through that seeing where I could go.
I remember going to a fantastic travel book shop in Covent Garden in London before I left which had the most amazing range of maps I've ever seen. But I stupidly bulked at the prices when I could see how much the rrp was in the country that made them.
As somebody who has worked in transport most of my life on and off ,I do love and appreciate a good map. It's only when you use a poor one that you appreciate the work that goes into a good one and therefore the price.
Iraq,Iran and Pakistan have proved very difficult to pick up a quality map. However my love of maps means I've still bought the local ones. The best map I ever bought was in Serbia for a small part of the Danube cycle way between Bela Palanka and Belgrade. It was so local that the inside cover had an advert for a missing dog on it :)
Finding your way is never the problem,, it's knowing about those interesting roads like you say Jim. Terrain of course is also great to know if you have a good map.

A quick extra note on Pakistan and China mobile phones. There is a phone company called Zong which has a shop here. The manager says that Zong mobiles work in China and Pakistan. Because my "ufone" sim has been terminated I will be buying a Zong sim and keeping it for when I eventually reach China. That will not be on the motorbike as I don't have a visa. That will just be a quickvisit to the Khunjerab pass and then return my bike back to Gilgit. Taking in some Glaciers and 8000metre peaks enroute.

As I remember more I'll keep adding them here..ie: I didn't know you could buy individual sachets of washing powder.(5 rupees) I had been using shampoo until I found that out. Toiletries in general is something I would not bother bringing with me and would definitely buy on the road. I had far too much stuff like that. Lots of suntan lotion and after sun for riding through the winter??? What was I thinking?? I definitely left in a bit of a flap. It couldn't be helped but its so funny looking back on it.
My stove is another one. I have a Primus multifuel stove and every conceivable adapter for all kinds of bottles/canisters but its totally unnecessary. I should have left it all behind and just bought a local stove and gas as I go. More of these as I remember, it's cathartic to get it out in the open :)
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