will the fixing for the ortlieb barbag fit a quill stem.
Yes; if it is the standard Ortlieb cable HB mount, it will fit either a threadless stem, quill stem, or the Thorn Accessory T-bar.
i just took the bag of my sherpa and i'm now trying to fit it to my raleigh but it just will not tighten,HELP.
Ah, that's a different problem, and one that is easy to fix.
Jags,
this has happened to me, and to almost anyone who has attempted to transfer the Ortlieb mount *and* wants to re-use the fixing cable.
What has happened is, the socket at the end of the cable has gotten stuck inside the plastic housing to where the bolt can't tighten it; instead, it causes the cable/socket assembly to spin fruitlessly, but not tighten.
It is...infuriating!
The solution is to:
1) Remove the mount (I presume it is sort of half-on, half-off at the moment), and lay it down on a table.
2) Undo all the bolts you can reach. Flip it over. Look inside.
3) Now, if you have a pair of needlenose pliers or such, reach inside and
push (not pull) to release the cable from where it is held up. It is held up in the first place 'cos it has become distorted from the bolt clamping it and from the corners of the plastic channel.
4) Next step: Fish the cable out from the front. Look at it. See if it is damaged in any way. There is likely at least a nick in the plastic covering the cable. That may or may not be a problem, depending on where it comes on the new stem. The plastic is designed to prevent the steel cable inside from marking your stem. Mine had a tiny nick when I reused it, but that was all. I managed to spin the cable such that the nick was up (away from the stem). I put a drop of super glue on it and touched it up with black paint. Done. But then, I'm cheap er, "Careful".
5) If the cable looks sound and uncompromised in any way, reinstall it as you would an original, give it a try, and the tension bolt should take up the slack. TIP: You may have to really pull on the end of the cable with pliers to fully seat the socket in the plastic well and take up enough slack so the bolt can tension it.
More likely, the cable itself will be nicked or distorted from the end of the clamping bolt. If that's the case, I would...
6) ...
Really urge you to replace the cable. A cable failure would drop the lot into/onto the front wheel, and the outcome would not be a happy one. A replacement cable over here costs about USD$8 to $12...a small price to prevent the loss of your teeth or to keep your other collarbone intact. Me? I am a belt-and-suspenders man who actually carries a spare cable on-tour in case mine breaks. It has been known to happen, and there really is no ready substitute you can craft on the road.
'Nother TIP: Most people wonder if they should set the mount up so the bag is level. They probably should...not. With a load, the bag sags a bit, and ends up tipping down in front, where it presses on cables or a headlight. A good rule of thumb is to set up the mount so the face (the part that mates with the bag) is parallel to (same angle) as the head tube. That way, when the bag is attached and a little weight added to it, it will end up truly level and not pointed down in front.
Of course, some people prefer their bags to point up in front, and so they set the mount at the same angle as their stem. It is just a matter of personal preference.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Dan.