thank's spoonboy for that,so im a stone heaver than your bike,emm i dont really want to buy front rack and panniers (money really tight at moment),but i can see if i did ,the bike should ride a lot lighter ,if that makes sense.im carrying everything in the rear,and my panniers are stuffed (ortlieb bikepacker plus) what to do what to do.have you tryed you bike yet fully loaded.
did you sell your front rack yet ?