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jam7

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Help Gear Sets and Cassettes?
« on: April 23, 2008, 09:54:51 PM »
Hi,

Today I took a Saracen 6061 Raw Pro into a bike shop today for servicing. I haven't done this before though I have only had the bike a couple of years and for the past year I have been using it daily for the commute to university.
However they suggested that the front chain set and rear cassette needed replacing. I spend a lot of my time in the lower back gears (6-8) as I can 'power up' (I think that the lingo sorry novice) and again in the third gear on the front (3) to maximise power and go for speed (late out of bed early morning lectures etc.... :) you get the gist!)
Anyway I let them do this but consequently I am not sure if this was the right thing to do and indeed would it have needed doing?
They showed me the old 'warn parts' and explained the narrowing of the teeth on the front crank and again on the rear where I spend the majority of my time. Though after a year of continual cycling I was a little surprised that these war out so quickly!
Can anyone verify this or indeed has any further knowledge in this grey area?

« Last Edit: April 24, 2008, 12:25:07 AM by jam7 »

jags

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Re: Help Gear Sets and Cassettes?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2008, 11:35:38 PM »
dont think you were taking for a ride so to speak,,when you say front and rear chainset do you mean front ring and cassette on back wheel,normally if your chain is streched ((worn) it will need replacing along with rear cassette ,you cant really mix old  chain with new cassette  the gears will jump all over the place.

jam7

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Re: Help Gear Sets and Cassettes?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2008, 12:22:40 AM »
Sorry yes the front chain set and the rear cassette. These were both replaced in the service along with the chain itself. I was just a little puzzled to perhaps why they chain set and cassette required replacement when it seems relatively new in the sense of a couple of years, one year casual and one year commuting use.

pdamm

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Re: Help Gear Sets and Cassettes?
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2008, 06:17:29 AM »
Jam7

It came as a big surprise to me the first time I found out my front chain rings and rear cassette needed replacing.  I used to think they were steel and bike riding surely didn’t put much preasure on them so they should last a long time right?  I was wrong :(

Since the chain is exposed to the air and road dirt and dust, small particles of grit get in side the chain and wear it away.  A chain inside a sealed chain case would last much longer but we couldn’t change gears using a derailleur with a chain case.  You can extend the life of a chain by keeping it cleaned regularly and well lubricated.  If you ride where there is less dirt and dust it can also last longer.  Depending on how you care for your chain and the environment you ride in you can get anywhere from less than 1,000 km to over 10,000 km out of a chain.  3,000 km is often quoted as a typical life for a chain on a derailleur equipped bike.  How far is your commute?

As the chain gradually wares the distance between the links gets longer.  As it does it means it doesn’t mesh perfectly with the teeth on the front chain ring and rear cassette.  Instead of the chain distributing the chain tension across a number of teeth it is concentrated on just one at a time.  This causes the teeth to ware to match the increased distance between the chain links and the chain tension becomes more evenly distributed again.  Over time the chain and teeth ware together.

If you leave it too long and just replace the chain the teeth on the front chain rings and rear cassette may have warn too much for them to mesh with the chain and you will find your chain skips.  So you will need to replace the chain, the front chain rings and the rear cassettes.

If you keep a close eye on how much your chain is waring you can just replace the chain before it wares too much without the need to replace the front chain rings or rear cassette.  If you are careful you may get through three chains before the front chain ring and / or rear cassette have warn too much and need replacing.

You can buy special tools to measure chain ware.  Here is a link describing how to measure chain ware with only a tape measure (the technique is at the bottom of the page).

http://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html

Peter
 

jam7

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Re: Help Gear Sets and Cassettes?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2008, 07:37:44 PM »
My commute is roughly 8km each way between my home and the University. I guess in that time what with the winter roads etc and living by the sea it kind makes sense.

Thank you for your knowledge on the matter including the link to the site. It appears to be very comprehensive on a lot of subject material and general mechanics!

Cheers!