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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #120 on: March 30, 2012, 08:58:07 PM »
 That just looks like heaven, Fred!

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #121 on: March 30, 2012, 09:16:02 PM »
That just looks like heaven, Fred!

It's not too bad at all.

Longstock, on the River Test in Hampshire.  That's a Fishing Hut in the background.

Heaven would have been having another hour so I could have had a pint in the nearby "Peat Spade Inn".
 

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #122 on: March 30, 2012, 09:37:58 PM »
Fred,

This is just lovely, and the bike and scene couldn't look more "right"; everything as it should be and not a thing less or more.

I, too, have always found my bikes more stable and predictable in their handling with the load split between front and rear panniers, rather than with only rear panniers and a handlebar bag. I do usually take a HB bag simply because it is a nice place for those little touring "Extras" like arm warmers or a hat and my camera and a snack and such. I consider it a substitute or extension for my jersey pockets, and it is easy to just unlatch the thing and take  it with me at store stops. Not he best place for heavy things, in my experience.

My, you've done a wonderful job with that photo...it's always nice to see into the "touring lives" of others, and this makes we wish I could join you. Early good wishes for a wonderful, safe, fun tour in May, Fred.

All the best,

Dan.
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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #123 on: March 30, 2012, 10:26:39 PM »
Thanks Danmeaux, nice comments.

Some more from this evening.

Here you can see the "Gripshift" under the handlebars, on an accessory bar from SJSC.  I find it an ideal solution for touring.

You can also see my home-made mudguard extension.  Hopefully this will shield my friends from road spray.  They are essential if you ride Audaxes in company.



And here...just to prove I am in England.

I don't think the Telephone Box is used by anyone but the villagers have filled it with books so it is now an informal Library.


I just realised it needs a good clean
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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #124 on: March 30, 2012, 10:34:47 PM »
I like the little skull on the rear fender.  :D

I do so love the classic British Racing Green of your bike.

Please, Fred, send me a package of your current weather. I will pay postage and the increment to send it Expedited Post.

It looks like genuine spring there, while here, we are having one storm after the other and are under flood watch on our rivers and streams.

Alternatively, if that is a Magic Phone Box a la Dr. Who, I'll come enjoy your weather myself!  ;D

Just gorgeous!

Best,

Dan.

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #125 on: March 30, 2012, 10:36:39 PM »
Class  ;)
Fred what have you in those panniers serious question i trying to figure out a packing list for my two week tour of ireland, but i dont want to use front panniers,yours look pretty empty to me or a least you could certainly get a hell of a lot more gear in the rear. ;)
great photos btw.

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #126 on: March 31, 2012, 11:55:44 AM »
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Fred what have you in those panniers serious question i trying to figure out a packing list for my two week tour of ireland, but i dont want to use front panniers,yours look pretty empty to me or a least you could certainly get a hell of a lot more gear in the rear. ;)
great photos btw.

Ha...I was just testing how it handled on Friday night for an hour so my packing list consists of all the clothes I could grab and stuff into panniers.  One pannier has my tent in it and looks half full.

However..my plan is to stuff my sleeping bag into one front pannier and possibly my tent into the other (tent pole on the rack maybe). That would leave my mattress to be rolled up on the rack (in a drybag) and leave 2 large panniers for clothes, wash bag, cooking stuff and so on.

To be honest I may have more capacity than I need but the idea was about balancing the load rather than increasing it.  That has clearly worked because the bike handles very nicely.  It will also enable me to keep a (possibly) wet tent separate, in it's own pannier.

I should also mention that the Tubus "Duo" rack is superb, very high quality, solid, and fairly discreet as front racks go.

I needed to dig out a couple of spacers to make it fit properly (chrome V-Brake lock nuts seem to have been designed especially for this purpose) and it may need a bit of innertube, where the hooks fasten to the rack, to stop the tiniest amount of rattling, but otherwise I'm delighted with the combination.

My aim for this thread was to post photos of my bike in as many situations as possible.  I remember when I was deciding on the Thorn, I wanted to see as many photos as possible myself.  There's more to buying a bike than technical specs, there's a touch of imagining yourself in some distant country, self sufficient and sleeping under the stars.  

It was seeing Thorn Ravens, "fully loaded" that did it for me.  I loved the fact that the bike was 100% designed to have panniers bolted to it, front and back, that it handled better the more luggage you hung off it.  

I've thought about selling it more than once.  I went for 2 years hardly using it, choosing a "fast tourer" for my Audax adventures (there's no doubt the RT can't compete against my Condor Fratello when it comes to covering miles quickly in comfort) but now, when my mind has turned to cycle camping, there's really only one bike in my garage suited.

I'm fairly sure now that I'll own the bike for life, even if it's just for the occasional camping trip and to get me through winter (it really does shake off the worst of winter with no complaints).

Hopefully the photos continue to let people imagine themselves owning such a bike and helps them make a decision about buying one.

Whatever people say about it being heavy, remember that mine has got me round a 600km (370 miles)  Audax ride in under 2 days.  It really is fast enough for most people and is also suited to travelling the globe with luggage.  That's a rare combination I think.

Mind you....there may be some different choices to make from Thorn shortly..hint hint.

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #127 on: March 31, 2012, 12:19:35 PM »
Here is a link to my very first thread ....

Freddered's Raven Tour 2006

What I changed in 6 years:

1 - Tyres are now Schwalbe Marathon 26x1.5".  They have proved themselves to be THE MOST RELIABLE on Hampshire/Wiltshire flint on many of my bikes.  They are fairly cheap in the normal (just Kevlar) version (around £16).  I reckon 1 puncture every 1000 miles or so for >20,000 miles.

2 - Handlebars.  I changed all my bars to NITTO "Noodle" bars.  I love them, extremely comfortable for touring offering more space on the "tops" for extra hand positions. Compare old vs new photos and you will see that the original bars slope towards the brake levers steeply...not good for my hands on a 600km ride I found.

3 - Lighting.  I changed to B&M "CYO" lights with a B&M "IXON" battery backup.  The Solidlights set a new standard but couldn't keep up.

4 - Brakes.  I swapped the brake calipers for AVID "Ultimate".  Expensive but superb.  You can swap the "noodle" over to get a much nicer  cable run into them (remember that ALL brake calipers are designed for a front brake lever on the left hand).  Highly recommended upgrade.

Given unlimited budget I'd get a SUPERNOVA E3 front light, the quality is incredible but the B&M has got me down Llanberis Pass, Snowdonia, at night, in sleet a couple of times and it doesn't get much more demanding than that.

That's it I think.  The Carradice Barley saddlebag looks a bit weather-beaten but it's been a superb day bag and has decades of life left in it.  

The Brooks Saddle is more Freddered-shaped now.

The pedals are still original and are totally worn out.  I can pull my cleats out on steep hills..which is a bad thing so I need to buy new ones before I knee myself in the chin.

I never use the bar-bag..I just don't like them.  They ARE useful on tours though so I may buy a smaller Ortlieb one for passport/camera/wallet.

I've had a couple of new wheels (they tend to wear out and crack 2 days before a big Audax ride, turning my life into a panic).

I use exclusively Cateye rear lights.  LD600 and LD610.  I think they are superb when aimed correctly (you must aim any rear LED light correctly).  I don't see the point in looking beyond a Cateye LD610 whatever happens in LED technology.

Finally, the Skull on the rear mudguard/fender has become a trademark on all my bikes.  My Audax friends have said that it gets burned onto their retina on a long night stage.

Hope this all helps someone make a decision about something.
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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #128 on: March 31, 2012, 02:39:50 PM »
thanks fred i'm actually up staires with all my gear spread out on the bed i did try and pact everything into the rear ortlieb plus but failed miserably >:(
so it look's like i will have to use the front panniers.
have you a system where to put stuff.my bedding takes up near enough one pannier.
anyway any help greatly appreaciared ;)

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #129 on: March 31, 2012, 04:08:19 PM »
Fred

I am so glad you have got the RT bug back, after all you have done with/to that bike it is almost as if it deserves to stay with you for life!

I read all your posts and looked at all your pictures several times before I got my RST, so you (and the other Fred!) had an influence in me taking the plunge.  And, I also fall a bit out of love with my RST from time to time, but it is reassuring to see that this happens to others as well ... and more importantly that the process can come full circle. 

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #130 on: March 31, 2012, 05:03:51 PM »
So ... now .... I wonder all of a sudden if my Nomad could do some Audax's?  I think I'd enjoy the funny looks!  8)

I want to chime in that in my experience, carrying the same amount of luggage and weight I find it better even if I can squeeze it all onto the back to put some weight on the front.  It seems to change the handling much for the better if there are about 4 - 7 killos up front.  In fact if I only carry a bit ... it is in the front.

I've got the large Ortieb bike packer bags which carry a fair amount and also the medium size rack pack.  I used to have my tent and sleeping bag in the rack pack but somehow I just don't like using the rack pack with the Thorn rear rack as the bags rise up over the top of the rack by a good five inches when full.

Does anyone of you here with Audax experience find that for Audax riding it is of benefit to have a slightly smaller frame than for regular riding or touring?

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #131 on: April 01, 2012, 05:28:33 PM »
Good to hear your update Fred. There's no question that rt's re designed for load carrying. For me the shock is that I sometimes forget hat I am hauling!
 

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #132 on: April 01, 2012, 06:01:16 PM »
a frien of my son  went touring in norhern ireland the other day on his beautiful top of the line raven tour.i seen the bike in the flesh only a few weeks ago, what a machine and so light but he did have all top notch gear on it.
he tours a lot in france but its credit card touring   :-[ but he was telling me the bike is faultless over any terraine.

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #133 on: April 01, 2012, 07:32:13 PM »
I wonder if there is a great difference between the Raven and Raven sport in handling.  With lightweight tyres and rims and no racks I wonder how light the Raven could be made?

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Re: My Raven Tour. 3500 miles on
« Reply #134 on: April 01, 2012, 07:42:01 PM »
emm much lighter i would have thought, carbon cranks/ carbon seat post/ carbon stem and bars/ rims and tires  TI racks/carbon  cages. fizik alanti saddle with carbon rails..

that should just about do the trick. ;D