I used to go for a ride every Thursday with a friend of mine who is always in a rush,I went on my Raven last week for the first time we did about 65 miles and I could see he wasn't the happiest chap about as I was a lbit slower than normal,and guess what,no phonecall this week so I think I've been dropped,so instead I went on a nice leisurely ride on my own,so relaxing stopped by a stream and and a coffee out of my flask and a steady average 11mph,thats going to be the norm from now on,live in the steady lane brilliant.Thanks Thorn.