Author Topic: Nordisk tents  (Read 22256 times)

John Saxby

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #30 on: May 16, 2015, 10:06:42 PM »
Pavel, you're right about the "more than one tent" approach.  I bought the Moment DW as a one-man (me) tent for cycling. For other uses--canoeing, motorcycle camping, two-person camping--I use my MSR Hubba Hubba.  It's worked well for five years, and is of reasonable weight & bulk, at just over 2 kg. It came at a reasonable price too.  There are some limits to its design -- it really needs fly-sheet venting (which the Tarptent has), and I'd prefer something which could be pitched as fly+inner in the rain, like the Hilleberg and the Tarptent. I compensate for these shortcomings by using a sil-nylon tarp because the weight isn't critical. The Moment DW is light enough that I can even take along a small tarp as well, and still be under 1.5 kg total.

There are always trade-offs among weight, durability, price, space, and planned use.  I've been lucky that I've had reasonably good tents, with no disasters, or even major hassles. The tradeoffs have generally worked for me--but then, I've not done mid-winter camping, nor even had to contend with high-veld thunderstorms in a tent. At this stage of life, I'm looking for designs that seem to address the issues of weight, fly venting, and inner+fly pitching, at a reasonable price.  I don't need a 4-season tent, or an expedition tent.

Am planning a short trip in the hills NW of Ottawa in early June, so we'll see how this ultra-light gear works in buggy country (that's black-fly country, not horse-and-buggy country...)  Look for a report in a month or so.

jags

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2015, 04:22:52 PM »
don't think pavel is talking to me  :'(

Pavel

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2015, 09:16:58 PM »
Jags ... You're one of the best reasons to drop by this forum. I realize that no person is perfect, and thus occasionally one  disagrees with me :D but that the best part! In fact I value you so much that here ... let me buy you a virtual beer.  ;D

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2015, 09:34:26 PM »
Pavel i was just winding you up honest .
i can safely say im probably the worst  camper on the planet   :'(
but i'm a tryer if nothing else. love cycling more road than cycle touring but yeah  i do love touring as well.dont mind me buddy i'm a feckin geek like the craic  ;)

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2015, 11:02:23 AM »
I must be missing something here?
I don't think a tent will keep you warm. It'll certainly deflect the rain and wind etc. I'd be more concerned about a quality sleeping bag/ mat combination with warm clothing.
I can sit in my relatively well insulated house and fairly freeze. Now, if I was to dress sensibly I'd be fine.

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2015, 11:39:46 AM »
Up to a point, yes.  But the body gives out its own heat - think how stuffy a small room crowded with people gets. A small tent has less volume of air to heat and so will keep you warmer. If the inner tent is mostly mesh then the effective volume is that of the flysheet and therefore greater, not to mention the draughts. If the inner is normal fabric there is also a slight double-glazing effect - at least, I have always found double skin tents easier to stay warm in than single skin ones of the same size.

If you camp in Scotland or Ireland or such places that is a serious consideration.!

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2015, 04:24:19 PM »
i think i said before i camped in the mournes in my akto  during a bad winter's night nearly froze to death ,the clown next to me in his vango stayed ward all night ,mores the pity if theres was any justice in the world he should have been struck dead ;)
anyway that story is for another day.
 i think I'll write a book  on tents and loonies I've met in my life quiet a few. ::)

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2015, 05:27:58 PM »
Jags .... have you discovered the bourgeoisie concept of using a sleeping bag? :D

There are two line os though about this, the tent helping keep one warm.  Some feel that the smaller the tent in combination with a well designed for cold weather tent keeps one warmer because the air space in the tent will be a few degrees warmer.  That makes sense, but at the same time it brings its own problems where the bodies moist air condenses and one looses some of the performance of the insulation.  Of course real men use down. :)

The Akto is there with the best of them as far as both a small space to heat up and well designed to let out condensation but not let in drafts.  Both of these are reasons that I don't own an Akto. I find it confining.  I find it hot.

That leads me to suspect that the tent was not the problems Jags ... but the lack of beer consumption as large beer quantities are well known to increase the metabolic rate and keep one sleeping soundly all night long. Well, at least that is my anecdotal tale of success in all tent conditions.  Try it, y'all.  ;)

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2015, 11:08:44 PM »
...yebbut I would then have to get up in the middle of the night to get rid of all that beer  :o!

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2015, 10:40:10 PM »
PAVEL take a look at this blog.
http://www.cycletourstore.co.uk/lighten-your-tent-weight/.
he totally convinced me the vango banshee 200 is the perfect touring tent.


anto.

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2015, 09:24:53 AM »
PAVEL take a look at this blog.
http://www.cycletourstore.co.uk/lighten-your-tent-weight/.
he totally convinced me the vango banshee 200 is the perfect touring tent.


anto.

Anto,
Every tent on the market is perfect-for somebody.
You need to ride ride ride a bike first.
Then work work work or rob second.
Afterwards any tent will do.
Best tent is the one i am using now!
Which is that?
Well its..... much lighter than yours.
Lightweight means lightweight-not 4 or 3 or 2 Kg but 1 or less kg!
It is unfortunate in this life the the lighter a tent gets, the more it costs, but once upon a time the tent got smaller too.
Now for loads of money it is possible to get lightweight and a decent size too.
If as you say you do not like Hilleberg Akto, then I am sorry to tell you, that possibly you should not list camping as a hobby!
Enjoy reading, whining and then gets writing.
Have some fun like I do when times (which you know about) are bad.
John

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2015, 02:12:15 PM »
yip i can safely say and i said it before im useless at camping and touring but sure  God loves a tryer. ;D ;D
i reckon that banshee would be good enough for this kid for all the times i'll use it its not worth me spending loads of cash on a very expensive tent and as for the bike clubtour not unless i come into loads of dosh £1600 for the basic bike  :o.
anyway glad your back on form keep the flag flying.

anto.

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2015, 10:41:39 AM »
yip i can safely say and i said it before im useless at camping and touring but sure  God loves a tryer. ;D ;D
i reckon that banshee would be good enough for this kid for all the times i'll use it its not worth me spending loads of cash on a very expensive tent and as for the bike clubtour not unless i come into loads of dosh £1600 for the basic bike  :o.
anyway glad your back on form keep the flag flying.

anto.

Anto,
Im not back on form by a long way, but just trying....
John

jags

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #43 on: May 22, 2015, 01:05:22 PM »
you'll get there no worries keep the faith boy start planning your next trip.i read that cycle touring festival was fantastic pity i missed out on it ah wel maybe next yea.
put that in your diary ;)

Pavel

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Re: Nordisk tents
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2015, 05:12:53 AM »
Jags ... there is no ventilation in that vango coffin and it weighs close to double of my tarptent.  For the conditions that the vango may be good for ... there is a hilleberg that I think is far better. The Akto. ;)