Author Topic: BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT  (Read 3989 times)

faema

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BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT
« on: September 16, 2013, 07:48:41 PM »
Hi all.
 I,m soon to head off to S E Asia and am getting concerned with regard the ease of getting my boxed up bike accepted without oversize penalty.
 i have a raven tour i think 562L most airlines give an overall dimension size of the boxed-up item. It seems to be (without having attempted it) unlikely  the bike will go that small?.
  Any experience with similar size bikes?and/or airlines flying into Bangkok I,m still riding my bike in training before booking the flight so was just touting for hopefully some positive responses by those that may have had and overcome similar concerns.
 p.s obviously no coupler on my beauty.

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Re: BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2013, 09:11:02 PM »
Hi, Having flown for the first time with Sherpa this summer.The airline requested the bike to be in a box or bag. I collected a (free) cardboard box from a local bike shop and was very unconvinced that it would in fact fit in this box. As requested by the airline, I took the pedals off and turned the handlebars flush with the frame. The only adjustments required to fit in this (still too small looking) box, was removing saddle, removing front racks ( Thorn Low Loader- taped them to rear) and the front wheel. The bike fitted snugly in the box OK.
I had a look at a couple of youtube vids to find the best format for taking bike to bits for flying.
I flew with EasyJet who were more concerned about overwieght than over size. The fact that they suggested a bag or a box, with only the pedals off and bars turned, meant they accepted full sized bike shaped parcels.

Have a brilliant time and it is well worth getting to know these basic technical bike operations when on an extended trip. You never know when you might have to get your bike in the back of a small space on a truck or plane.
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il padrone

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Re: BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2013, 01:33:12 AM »
CTC's recommendation.




There is a very good rationale behind the use of these. Recently we flew from Australia to Rome and used a Ground Effect Bodybag for each of our bikes. No damage suffered and the bikes were reasonably easy to handle. We carried the Bodybags in our panniers on the tour - bulky but we could do it. The CTC bag could be carried to the airport on your bike then fitted fairly quickly in departures. It can also be easily carried strapped onto your rack or in a bag while touring. Not so with a bike box or case. No bike is easy to transport in a bag or box, but at least with the plastic bag there is the possibilty of leaving the wheels free to roll.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2013, 02:47:55 PM by il padrone »

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Re: BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2013, 04:16:01 AM »
Some airlines/baggage handlers wouldn't accept a bike in a bag like that.
Best to check first.
There are some good you tube videos on packing a bike into a box.
Its not that hard but make sure you protect vulnerable parts from mishandling and crushing.

 

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Re: BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2013, 09:29:00 AM »
If removing the front wheel, is it important to replace the spindle with a piece of wood to stop the forks being compressed?
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Re: BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2013, 10:54:36 AM »
Here's a few tips and photos of one I did a few years ago and use a similar system still now.
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/page/?o=1&page_id=103519&v=b

The bike in the photo is a true 27" frame as I'm 6'5" tall, and I now use a Thorn.
I never had trouble yet with size.

If you do get a box, cut as much dead mat'l away and you'll save a kilo and plenty of dead space.
Tie a rope around the bike and then feed it out the hand grip on the box. Do that on both ends, otherwise when the handlers grab the box, the box will rip, especially if it gets wet.
I usually tie a knot on the outside and leave about 4" hanging out. That way when they grab the rope they effectively lift the bike which supports the box, as opposed to the other way around.

As said before don't be afraid to strip the bike. It makes you more confident when something happens.


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Re: BOXING-UP FOR FLIGHT
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2013, 05:29:49 PM »
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Here's a few tips and photos of one I did a few years ago and use a similar system still now...
Some excellent tips and ideas there, Fred; thanks for sharing.

Having flown to Amsterdam and back and suffered damage caused by careless TSA inspection on return stateside, I think I'll go a different route next time and ship the bike separately. I've had terrifically good luck so far using BikeFlights ( http://www.bikeflights.com/ ) and found them to be not only reasonable in cost but extremely reliable. Very easy to deal with and superb followup.

Basically, BikeFlights allows one to send their bike anywhere in the world via FedEx at commercial-account rates -- and with insurance to match. There is full tracking so you can follow the package progress, and they'll deliver pretty much anywhere you have an address, including hotels and motels and such. The are timely, and this makes it possible to ship bikes reliably to racing venues as well. I simply used a bike box from my local shop. By the way, if you're looking for boxes try for a Trek Madone box. They come with v-shaped foam frame tube standoffs and BB supports and quick-release nylon webbing straps to secure the lot. There's room for wheels next to the frame, but mudguards and racks will need to be removed for all to fit.

Taking a bike with you on a flight originating in America is increasingly expensive and adds considerably to the cost of a vacation. Too, when damage occurs -- as it did for me -- there is often little recourse. Because my damage was caused by the TSA and not an airline, no compensation was possible (a little inspection note tucked in the box stated this, and later calls confirmed it). I'd taken care to even fasten a photograph of the packed bike to the inside flap of the box, thinking it would make repacking easier in the even of inspection, but no such luck. The pedals were stove through the wheels, requiring me to build up a new pair on my return, the Brooks saddle was badly damaged, the handlebar tape was ruined and much of the paint was scratched. If all this has happened on the outward leg, the bike would have been unusable for my scheduled tour of Europe as the wheels could not have rolled a turn.

In contrast, my BikeFlights shipments have come through consistently uscathed and there is recourse available in the event of damage thanks to insurance.

Might be worth a look.

Best,

Dan.

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Bike size
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2013, 09:02:19 PM »
The bike in the photo is a true 27" frame as I'm 6'5" tall, and I now use a Thorn.

Hi I'm also 6'5", I'd be interested in hearing what model and size of Thorn that you're using.
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Bike size
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2013, 10:07:35 PM »
I use the 612S and the seat stem is 10mm above the max. I sawed some material off my wife's stem, and added it on to mine, so it effectively has enough stem in the tube.
It seems to be OK, and have taken it for a 3 month trip.

Here is a photo of it , next to my wife's 487L (now stolen)
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/?o=1&doc_id=11469&v=1F

Note:
My old bike is a hand built 27" frame by Quantum cycles in Perth. He no longer builds bikes as he couldn't make a living , and now makes a better living, repairing carbon fibre frames.