Thorn Nomad MKII

[baisius]

Delivery to my door was 100 GBP. There is no customs duty inside EU.
I bought the bike for my company which is EU VAT payer.
Total amount I paid:
list price
- 17,5 % VAT
+ 100 GBP.
I would have to pay 21% Lithuanian VAT if I would sell the bike.

450 GBP is unreasonable price.
You have several other options:
1. Fly to Bridgewater and ride home ... but winter is coming.
2. Fly and take your bike back on the plane.
3. Send it someone to Poland or Lithuania for 100 GBP and then collect it from there. You can take it to Ukraine by train, bus or car and won't pay customs duty. This way I think you can save about 250 GBP.
If you need any help, let me know. I will be in Lithuania till February 24th then heading to South America.

Paulius

[PH]

Delivery to my door was 100 GBP. There is no customs duty inside EU.
I bought the bike for my company which is EU VAT payer.
Total amount I paid:
list price
- 17,5 % VAT
+ 100 GBP.
I would have to pay 21% Lithuanian VAT if I would sell the bike.

450 GBP is unreasonable price.
You have several other options:
Paulius

I could be wrong, but you might be comparing insured and uninsured prices.  I work for a company that occasionally sends 30 kg £4000 bits of computer equipment anywhere in Europe.  The insurance is around three times the price of the shipping.

[baisius]

Thorn sends bicycles by ParcelForce. Their online calculator gives two options: 450 GBP for delivery to Ukraine using Global Express (3 days, compensation up to 2500 GBP) and 176 GBP using Global Priority (7 days, compensation up to 2500 GBP).

@Cedric - ask Thorn to send the bike to you using cheaper service.

[Cedric]

Hi, all.

Thank you for taking part in this survey!

It’s really impressive: 150 GBP to Canada and 176 GBP to Ukraine. But may be Canada is really closer, depends on Earth bend.

Glad to hear that there are several options. I really thought about flying and then riding home from any point. But not sure how many weeks it could take.

Especially, I liked your, Puailius, option:
to pay
-17.5% UK VAT
+ Delivery cost, 100 GBP or 176 GBP

This is really less then list price.

Thank you very much for educating me.

Paulius,

Are you going to South America fro cycle tour? If so, please let posted about your journey.
Thank you very much for your offer, but I won’t be purchasing earlier then a year (family budget should not suffer). When I will be ready, I will find somebody in Poland, or may be you will already be back from South America.

Meanwhile, I will be riding my old beloved Bianchi.

Regards,

Cedric

[Cedric]

Tried to upload the picture of 248 KB, but it does not allowed me. It should't be so big .

[Bearbait]

Probably not closer as I am at the other end of Canada!

[Cedric]

Probably not closer as I am at the other end of Canada!

  so
it's really funny .

Have you already bought a Thorn?

[Bearbait]

Not yet, but I am planning on an RST - black on black, black like the raven's feathers, black like his heart, and black like his soul.

[Cedric]

 

I would go for green or red colour - it should be bright and visible on road.

[il padrone]

Hi

My Thorn Nomad Mk 2, bought as a frame then built up using top level components. I reckon I saved ~ $A500-800 on the cost of getting a complete bike shipped to Australia.

This pic is fully loaded on its first 3-day tour in South Gippsland, a great tour of scenic hill country.

[jimmer]

Only just finished listening to St David of Attenborough relating one of his life stories about the South Gippsland Giant Earth Worm. Though as thick as your thumb and up to 13 feet long, not seen above ground, so you should be safe.

James

[Cedric]

Hi

My Thorn Nomad Mk 2, bought as a frame then built up using top level components. I reckon I saved ~ $A500-800 on the cost of getting a complete bike shipped to Australia.

This pic is fully loaded on its first 3-day tour in South Gippsland, a great tour of scenic hill country.

Hi, Padrone,

Looking very nice in yellow colour and really visible. Once I've read in one touring guide that it's much safer from the possible theft point of view to have bight bike. Easy to search for
My usuall question: what size is it?
And what exactly do you mean by saving some money on getting a complete bike shipped?
 

[Cedric]

Sorry, it's me again .Just stupid question
It really could be the alternative - to buy the frame and build it up .
How did you build the Rohloff into the wheel?

And the main problem as for me is availability of all the high level components in the part of World you live in.

[il padrone]

Only just finished listening to St David of Attenborough relating one of his life stories about the South Gippsland Giant Earth Worm. Though as thick as your thumb and up to 13 feet long, not seen above ground, so you should be safe.

One of my friends on the tour claimed that a subtle groaning noise we heard was the sound of the giant earthworms moving through the soil. Not sure whether that was true or just someone's groaning stomache  


Cedric, the frame size is 565L, just right for me. As for the build work - I got the wheels built up by my local bike shop, the rest of it I did all myself. I'm fairly handy with most bike maintenance and building work. Most of the components were bought on-line from SJS and other Eurpean bike shops. The price advantage of doing it this way comes partly from savings on the cost of our GST tax for any imported bike (there is a $1000 limit before customs bothers chasing GST), and also the price for bike parts, and many other consumer goods, here in Australia is outrageously high. I save 30-60% by buying from Wiggle or bike24 and that often includes shipping.

I priced buying the Thorn Nomad from SJS and it would have cost me ~$4200 plus GST (10%). My costs for the frame, parts and wheel builds was $3800, so I saved a fair bit.

[Cedric]

The price advantage of doing it this way comes partly from savings on the cost of our GST tax for any imported bike (there is a $1000 limit before customs bothers chasing GST),

Hi,

Just connected with local parcel service (EMS - partner of Parcel Force in Ukraine) and found out that the threshold for deliveries without duty is below 200 EUR, and everything that is above that sum will be charged with 45% custom duty. [/b]  Part of it would be compensated by UK VAT. but it is only 17% or something + delivery cost.
I'm impressed.
Even if I would start with frameset. that's much.
The idea told above to bring ihe bike to any of nearby countreis and then pick it up somehow - the only reasonable choice for me.

Cedric.