Author Topic: Raven Enduro short stays  (Read 2441 times)

mountaincarrot

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Raven Enduro short stays
« on: July 06, 2007, 09:39:21 AM »
Hi.

I'm seriously thinking of getting a Rohloff MTB. The Raven Enduro is obviously on my list. I would like to know from owners what it's like up the real steep hills. I see the rear triangle geometry is shorter than most bikes which need clearance for 3 rings. What sort of effect does this have going up the very steep stuff? - The sort of stuff when you need to lean forward hard to keep the front wheel down?

I ask partly because my bike gets used not only for off-road commuting, but is also a "weekend" family bike. I carry a child seat on the rear of my current old alloy hardtail, which moves the centre of gravity backwards a fair bit. - There are some very steep hills round this way. Right now, with an additional ~ 15+ Kg on the back, I need to do some hefty leaning forward to keep the front down when riding up the steepies with the extra weight behind. Naturally if I found myself doing "wheelies" on the same hill with an Enduro I'd be irritated, and it could be a safety issue for my "passenger"

I suppose the stays are (...50mm??) shorter. Perhaps this only equates to ~3-4 degrees on the angle from the tyre contact to the centre of gravity, but that's 3-4 degrees of hill gradient.

What's folks opinions on that one? Do the short stays behave noticeably different to an "old school" hardtail up the steepest hills?

Rgds
« Last Edit: July 06, 2007, 09:41:48 AM by mountaincarrot »
 

Andy Blance

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Re: Raven Enduro short stays
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2007, 11:48:38 AM »
The Enduro is designed to carry a very small amount of luggage and unloaded (or with a couple of Kg)it climbs beautifully. It is not only most definitely NOT designed for carrying the weight of a child but its geometry would make this a most dangerous practice.
The only solo bikes that we make (with Rohloff), that we would sanction to carry the weight of a child, are the Raven Tour, the Nomad and any of the eXp family. The only one of these that we recommend for use with suspension forks is the eXXp I hope that this is crystal clear.
BTW...There is no way in this world that I would use an alluminium MTB with a child seat mounted to it...especially off road...I strongly advise you to check with the manufacturer...just because you have got away with it so far, does not mean that it will not fail the next time you use it.
Andy Blance...designer of thorn bikes.
 

mountaincarrot

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Re: Raven Enduro short stays
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2007, 12:41:33 PM »
Hi Andy.

Thank you very much for that advice. I'll need to bear than in mind then, and possibly review how I'd use my bike(s) if I end up opting for an Enduro.

re my current set-up. Just FYI, I have a mid 1990's GT frame (Their "triple triangle" design, with the mounting for the child seat fitted right inside the little "triangle" where the rear stays brace both the top tube and down tube. It is an incredibly strong part of the frame so I'm happy with that one. I would not be happy mounting it on any unsupported long tube or seat tube.

Rgds