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Community => Non-Thorn Related => Topic started by: bobs on January 21, 2014, 11:51:48 AM

Title: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: bobs on January 21, 2014, 11:51:48 AM
http://singletrackworld.com/2014/01/absolutely-gorgeous-shand-fat-stoater/

I think some of the ideas on the Shand could be adopted by Thorn.

Bob
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: il padrone on January 21, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
Hunting around a bit I came across this nicely equpped Stoater rig, from a Leicester fellow's website:

http://42bikes.warnock.me.uk/2012/11/
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8067/8191143881_b94f5c7ee9_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: brummie on January 21, 2014, 07:42:08 PM
Hunting around a bit I came across this nicely equpped Stoater rig, from a Leicester fellow's website:

http://42bikes.warnock.me.uk/2012/11/
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8067/8191143881_b94f5c7ee9_b.jpg)

Shame it has a belt drive. Headlamp looks vulnerable too. Still rather have a Green Retro Mercury. 8)
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: bobs on January 21, 2014, 08:00:55 PM
Whats  wrong with a belt drive.

Bob
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: brummie on January 21, 2014, 08:39:11 PM
I just like the fact that a chain can be adjusted for length & also sprockets & chainrings of differing sizes are also all easily sourced & fitted to suit terrain / gearing requirements. I'm not going to open a can of worms arguing against the belt drive. :)
Title: Handlebars
Post by: onrbikes on January 21, 2014, 08:43:13 PM
Who makes those handlebars?

We came across a Swiss guy in Tajikistan that had them and came highly recommended.
He was told that was the bodies natural position for holding on.

Seems like a lot of gadgetry on the bike in general.
Title: Re: Handlebars
Post by: Chris M on January 21, 2014, 09:03:22 PM
Who makes those handlebars?

We came across a Swiss guy in Tajikistan that had them and came highly recommended.
He was told that was the bodies natural position for holding on.

Seems like a lot of gadgetry on the bike in general.

They look similar to Humpbert Boomerang bars:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-boomerang-handlebars-254-mm-clamp-prod32098/ (http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-boomerang-handlebars-254-mm-clamp-prod32098/)
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: bobs on January 21, 2014, 09:18:14 PM
They are Jones loop bars, not cheap at £130.

Bob
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: il padrone on January 21, 2014, 09:22:29 PM
Yes, they are the Jones Loop-bars. They also do another variation, the H-bar

(http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/images/04.jpg)
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: jags on January 21, 2014, 09:29:17 PM
nifty front rack ;)
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: brummie on January 21, 2014, 10:38:34 PM
nifty nitto front rack ;)
;D
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: jags on January 21, 2014, 10:52:18 PM
 ;D ;D very quick.
Title: Re: Handlebars
Post by: il padrone on January 21, 2014, 11:13:25 PM
Seems like a lot of gadgetry on the bike in general.

Only things he has on that bike that I don't have on my own is the Nitto rack and the suspension seat-post. He also has the Lowrider big bell (I have the Mirrycle Incredibell) and The Plug (I have an E-werk). So no, I don't see a huge amount of gadgetry.
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: bobs on January 21, 2014, 11:22:05 PM
If you look at the link in the first you can see how good a drop bar bike can look, albeit with fat tyres.

Bob
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: il padrone on January 21, 2014, 11:38:09 PM
Never liked those funky 'half-dropped' bars - hoods are too narrow. Same goes for the forward 'bar-end' position on the Jones H-bars. When out of the saddle and climbing I will be either gripping the bar-ends or the hoods and they need to be wide and forwards.
Title: Gadgetry
Post by: onrbikes on January 22, 2014, 12:25:05 AM
I suppose by gadgetry I meant the extra steelwork going up from the top rack to mount a single bell. Unless I see it wrong.

Why not have the top section of the rack built together with the rest of the rack.
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: il padrone on January 22, 2014, 06:31:30 AM
Aahah! I believe you're misconnecting the front rack (which has an upper bar to support a handlebar bag), the bell, and the silver handlebar mounted Garmin 800 GPS unit. Must admit that puzzled me too at first - an optical illusion.

The bell is mounted on the left rear section of the bars, near the grip.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8349/8203391641_376b39a3a4_c.jpg)



As for the two front racks, that's a choice some make. Some like the advantage of a front racktop. He has a big French-style handlebar bag, which needs a platform rack, rather than an Ortlieb, as he cannot run an Ortlieb bar-mount with those Loop-bars.
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: NZPeterG on January 22, 2014, 07:53:27 AM
Whats  wrong with a belt drive.

Bob

Hi Bob,
Loads!

Pete  :'(

Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: NZPeterG on January 22, 2014, 07:55:40 AM
http://singletrackworld.com/2014/01/absolutely-gorgeous-shand-fat-stoater/

I think some of the ideas on the Shand could be adopted by Thorn.

Bob

Hi Bob,
I love this  ;D

Pete  8)

Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: NZPeterG on January 22, 2014, 07:59:53 AM
Never liked those funky 'half-dropped' bars - hoods are too narrow. Same goes for the forward 'bar-end' position on the Jones H-bars. When out of the saddle and climbing I will be either gripping the bar-ends or the hoods and they need to be wide and forwards.

Hi,
I have had the "Dirt Drops" and "Jeff Jones Loop - Bars" and have Sold the drop bars and my Jones bars are sitting in a box to be Sold one day...

Pete  :o

 
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: bobs on January 22, 2014, 09:06:53 AM
It's a pity you live in NZ , I would have bought them.

Bob
Title: Re: Thorn could get some ideas from this
Post by: il padrone on January 22, 2014, 11:35:09 AM
Arguments in favour of belt drive argue around issues of strength, never needing to carry a spare chain, no maintenance requirement, and silent oil-free operation.

I will acknowledge, they are (allegedly) quieter in use. Steel is pretty damn strong and while my chain needs to be lubed, the Purple Extreme keeps the chain remarkably oil-free. On many long touring rides I have never needed to carry a spare chain, rarely needed to carry out any major maintenance, just re-lube every 600-1000kms. Belt-drive is a solution looking for a problem IMHO.