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Matt2matt2002

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Amsterdam
« on: August 08, 2016, 07:52:04 am »
Off to Amsterdam on Wednesday to visit my son and daughter in-law for a week.
Never been before but hear they quite like bikes over there?
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 Any shops/ local cycling products I should be checking out?
Leaving my Raven behind. Mrs Matt decided there wasn't enough room in her suitcase.
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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 07:12:43 pm »
Leaving my Raven behind. Mrs Matt decided there wasn't enough room in her suitcase.

Worth borrowing/renting bikes at least once while your there, perhaps persuade Mrs Matt to ride as well. The cycling infrastructure around Amsterdam is reassuring for occasional cyclists (little need to mix with motor vehicles) and so long as there isn't too much wind/rain the flat terrain makes for easy cycling.

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2016, 07:15:43 pm »
Just be grateful Mrs Matt didn't leave you behind because her suitcase was full.

Rent an upmarket Gazelle or Koga-Miyata or equivalent, and report back. The general equivalent to a Thorn tourer is a "vakansiefiets" -- a deluxe touring bike saved for your holiday, literally a "holiday bike". There's a piccie of mine at The Bicycle as Art: The True Inheritor of the Bauhaus Ethic -- scroll down to the middle of the article for the photo.

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 08:38:40 pm »
If you are interested visit the shop, de vakantiefietser, in Amsterdam, westerstraat 216

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 09:18:23 pm »
The Netherlands is a lovely place to visit and cycle, Matt, and to see a whole society's infrastructure dedicated to the bike (and a nightmare to drive in for the same reasons!). I've done it south-to-north, north-to south, and several times each way across, catching the Green Heart/Hoge Veluwe, Zeeland to the south, and Friesland to the north and all along the North Sea.

There's only a few hills to speak of, but Vaalserberg/Mt. Vaals in the SE is the major one and not to sneeze at; the thing has some slopes that are really steep as you steam over the top to Drielandenpunt ("Three-Country Point") and on to Aachen in Germany. You won't need to worry about such things in Amsterdam, but wind can be an issue. When I toured there it was sometimes in winds gusting to Beaufort 8 where it was hard make any forward progress. Not so much fun with panniers, but their added weight was welcome ballast. For an example, see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMWk0i9scjg
The Dutch national and junior teams welcome such days as a training aid.
Look starting at the 45-second time mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8qgjyqibwY

A few notes of caution:

1) For the foreign visitor, there can be such a thing as "too many bikes" in the bike path. Use some care for this reason. If you park your bike, be sure to mark it in some way so you can refind it. The number parked in/at/near Amsterdam is really beyond what words can describe.

2) If your rental bike has a bell (it will), be sure to use it when overtaking.

3) Small motorbikes are now ply many of the bike paths, and they cut a wide swath through cycle-traffic at speeds that are often higher than what a cyclist can pedal, so use caution there as well. You may also see the occasional microcar on the fietspad (see attached...the photo is blurry 'cos Belgium's cobbles shook my camera apart to a fair degree), so be watchful.

4) Canalside paths in the City may have no ropes or guards in a few places, and it is possible to end up in the drink.

I could write a guide based on my time there, but I don't have to because framebuilder, shop owner, and all -'round nice guy Martin Gerritsen wrote a very useful treatise for those visiting the NL by bike for the first time. I found it to be good, accurate, and useful. Available here:  http://www.m-gineering.nl/techdexg.htm

Most shops deal more with the ubiquitous utility bikes rather than trekking options, but there is still much to see. A friend just dropped 7,000 Euro on a velomobile for his long commute to Hook of Holland and doesn't regret it. You may see a few while there.

Though I was based more out of Rotterdam as a central hub, you might well enjoy seeing one of the three Bever(Beaver)Sports outlets in the Amsterdam area. They are expedition and outdoors outfitters and carry the usual array of bike-trekking supplies in addition to a full range of tents, sleeping bags, and other camping gear. Here's the links to their main Amsterdam store:
In Dutch: http://www.bever.nl/index.cfm/fuseaction/main.shopdetail/id_shop/113

While there, treat yourself to some delicious pickled herring with onions on a little red-plaid paper tray. You can choose head on or off, but the taste is really good as they are pickled in their own stomach acids. I liked them so much I sought them out at every opportunity. Friets (what we call "French Fries" here in the US) are served with mayonnaise, and if you can get yourself a big, hot bowl of snert (erwtensoep) or pea soup, it will warm you to your core. Really good stuff. Don't forget to sample the stroopwaffels (caramel syrup waffle-cookies) and bitterballen (gravy filled meatballs), cheeses, licorice, and chocolates of every variety. I've made myself hungry, so must pen off here and find the kitchen 'fridge for lunch.

You'll have a lot of fun, Matt. Our valued Dutch forum member Jawine is about to tour in her homeland once again, or I'm sure she'd have even more suggestions for you.

All the best,

Dan.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2016, 09:20:18 pm by Danneaux »

John Saxby

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2016, 02:51:50 am »
One of the world's great cities, Matt -- enjoy!!  Jenever (quality Dutch sorta-gin liqueur) on the terraces beside the canals in the long summer evenings -- delightful blurry evenings :-)

A walk in the Vondelpark, just off Willemsparkweg, is splendid, easy, and free. There's a bike shop on Willemsparkweg, near #190:  worth a visit just for the quality of the machinery (they sell Bromptons, amongst other bikes) and the sheer professionalism of the place.

No hills, though, unless you go south to Maastricht, in the "Dutch Alps".

Cheers,

John

PS: If you do rent a bike to potter around, be advised the Amsterdam cyclists can be ruthless.

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2016, 09:53:20 am »
Now you're down in the archives! I did a student exchange there back in the day. I was 19yo going on 15yo and my eyes were truly opened. Several trips there since and I'd cite the general conviviality of the city. Igor and his Hotshots belting out Trad' Jazz' in the tiniest of canal-side cafes. I love those chips with the flavoured dressings you can buy from the street vendors. If you like a bit of 'high culture' a trip to the Rijskmuseum is a must. Yes, a great place to visit although I agree about the 'confident' local cyclists.  ;)

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2016, 05:35:14 pm »
Many thanks folks.
Day 2 completed and I think I have heard just the one car horn!
Such a contract to Sri Lanka.
But find the cyclists here quite intimidating. Fast and confident. And why not. The city is made for them.
It's just that I'm not use to it all. I've only just gotten use to the organised chaos of S/L.!!

Mrs Matt is keen to hirer a bike so I'll be along side her. But maybe stick to the parks and side roads.

Very much enjoying the bikes on view.
Apart from the hirer bikes I don't think I've seen 2 the same! Such variety. So many attachments and add-on ons.

More reports from Amsterdam soon.

Matt
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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2016, 07:06:48 pm »
I loved that Martin Gerritsen site Dan first class keep up the good work Dan. Dermot .
 

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2016, 07:50:55 pm »
In case you're going to rent a bicycle in Amsterdam, keep it safe!

The Bike Instructor's guide to cycling in Amsterdam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEON08d76oE
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Matt2matt2002

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2016, 09:06:04 pm »
All good things...... as they say.

Some observations

No traffic jams. No horns.
How come?

No beggers. ( A couple of dumpster divers.)
Unlike Edinburgh!

Dope/ weed freely available, not just in the coffee shops.
Plus artificial designer substances.

I gave up trying to identify the bikes here. Apart from Cambridge UK, I've never seen so many types.

I did visit the shop recommended.
Willemsparkweg, near #190: 
A very specialist touring business.
It was closed the day I visited but the front door not locked, so in I strolled.
Well, I'd come all the way from Scotland!
The owner was on the phone talking so I was able to wander around for 5 mins before he said he was shut. But he was cool about me being there and didn't rush me out.
Forgot what was there but all if the big names, apart from Thorn!
And I felt a belt drive before I left!!

Hired bikes for a few hours but kept to the park since Mrs Matt had not ridden in 10 years or more.
Weather was perfect so a lovely morning.

Roads; all in good condition and well marked out for cyclists.

Food. Excellent. Herring, so good.

Visited the Heineken brewery, Van Gogh, Rembrandt and Banksi exhibitions.

Wonderful city.
Many thanks for the tips and advice.
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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2016, 05:26:48 pm »
Glad you enjoyed Amsterdam, Matt -- one of the great cities of the world, sez I.  The Dutch do cities so well, eh?

A longtime friend lives just up the street from the bike shop on Willemsparkweg -- glad you had a chance to visit the shop.

We took our kids to Europe in 1998, when they were 14 and 12.  Our son, David, 14 at the time, said he thought that the Dutch were doing something right if the biggest crime problem in Amsterdam was bike theft. He was a big husky guy even then, but was a bit dismayed to see so many strikingly beautiful Dutch women who were taller than him :-)

Worth going back again and again.  Next time, you might check out the bookstore Pied à Terre -- it's just north of Vondelpark, on the other side of the park from Willemsparkweg.  It's fabulous spot for cycling maps, and they do have a mail-order service.  Here's their website, in the English version: http://www.jvw.nl/ 

Cheers,

John

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Re: Amsterdam
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2016, 08:13:39 pm »
Glad you enjoyed Amsterdam, its a special city indeed. Next time try Utrecht or Maastricht, which are my favorites

Jack,