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whats in your saddlebag
« on: September 24, 2012, 06:53:48 PM »
Just curious here folks, on a long day ride 50 to70 miles or whatever do you take hot food with you .i'm mean flask coffee/tea/soup./bovril.
i seen a great video on utube once  scottish cyclist of the 50's 60's super  cyclist he would ride in all kinds of weather but he always stopped and had a big fry up ;) guess he burned off all that fat on his return journey. ;D
but yeah no fry up these days its all power bars and gels really tasty  snacks NOT ::)
my self i have to cut back on coffee.tea my poor stomach just cant cope with  it anymore.
so any tips on alternative for tea/coffee .

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2012, 09:10:31 PM »
Hi jags!

I almost always toss in my little "Pocket Kitchen" ( http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=3850.msg16915#msg16915 ), consisting of my little beer-can meths stove and pot stand, a folding windscreen, and a nesting alu bowl set with lid. My food goes in th same ittle storage sack. Now I have my little propane/butane cartridge stove, I may occasionally use that instead. I do freezer-bag cooking, so the food is broken-down and stored in a zip-top freezer bag. To cook it, all I need do is boil a cup of water, dump it in the zip-top freezer bag and put the lot in a homemade Reflectix cozy for 5 minutes to steep. When done, there's no dishes to do and the former food bag becomes the new trash sack for responsible disposal in the nearest receptacle.

For eats, I bring along dehydrated soups. My favorites are made by Nile Spice ( http://www.nilespice.com/products/index.php ) and I just break them down and put them in the cooking sacks, then roll. Enough for several meals weigh almost nothing and take up very little space. Kept sealed, they last about a year, so I keep several in reserve in a side pocket of my rack-top pack in case I get caught out unexpectedly or get the munchies along the way. I have eaten them cold out of necessithy on occasion, but they're much better hot.

Often, I'll eat the soups as the come, but I'll also fortify them with torn-off strips of beef or turkey jerky. Put in before the boiling water, the dried or smoked meat strips get nice and soft along with the veggies and broth and go far toward filling my up.

I like these sorts of dehydrated soups better than boullion cubes because they contain *much* less salt, and there is a true variety of flavors that really taste like their billing, which is nice. Though called "Nile Spice", they're only lightly spiced which is nice for bike trips -- I love really hot spices, peppers and such as part of my regular diet, but when I'm working hard on the bike, even subtle flavors seem stronger and I prefer something "interesting" but comparatively bland so it doesn't revisit me afterwards. Besides, if one has a "careful" outlook, these are cheap, ranging from 88 US cents to as much as USD$1.07 per cup -- world's less expensive than dehydrated foods and soups intended for the outdoors/hiking market. These taste better, too...especially after I've doctored them up a bit.

My favorites are their pea soup, lentil, and the red beans and rice; I feel a real jolt of energy after drinking/eating the last. I understand the protein in rice and beans is additive, much greater when combined than when either food is eaten alone.

Occasionally, I'll toss in a little can of potted meat product ("Vienna sausages") and a small can of mandarin oranges in juice. The latter always tastes good and quenches thirst on a hot day without producing phleghm as some canned fruits sometimes do. I also take re-packed pouches of Gatorade for hot weather, and American cereal supplier Kellogg's has a water-added protein drink I sometimes use. It takes the edge off hunger, but sometimes doesn't set so well if you wait too late to drink it.  :P

For a hot drink, I've had good luck with Alpine hot apple cider ( http://www.alpinecider.com/ ) and sometimes small packets of (hot) chocolate or cocoa ( http://www.swissmiss.com/index.jsp ), which seems to sit a little better for me than tea when I'm working hard. As for tea, I've had the best luck with Indian Chai Spice tea (my favorite), peppermint, and chamomile, all caffeine-free. The lack of caffeine made a difference for me on how well I tolerated them afterwards.

A banana is never bad, and I enjoy chunky peanut butter (sometimes with the banana, sliced!) on something like a RyeKrisp cracker. Those sorts of hard crackers store well, resist breakage, and don't mold or mildew in damp conditions as quickly as bread can.

All the best,

Dan.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 12:20:01 AM by Danneaux »

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2012, 09:58:52 PM »
Hi Jags
have you tried Rooibos tea  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooibos  This is caffeine free and light on tannin but still tastes more like real tea rather than a fruit tea. I drink gallons of the stuff and all the supermarkets seem to have some now. Used teabags make good pot cleaners too.

For a snack I carry a grip bag full of raisins, sunflower seed, pumpkin seed, peanuts, cashews in varying quantities. Really tasty, high energy and packs up small.

I was looking into a little meths stove for ad hoc camping. Has anybody tried any of the Caldera Cone stoves? http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/trail_designs_caldera_keg_f_stove_system.html or maybe even one of these 8 gram stoves!  http://www.bearbonesbikepacking.co.uk/

The emerging bikepacking idea seems to throw up some interesting ideas, principally chucking out the saddle bag :o. A small summary here http://www.alpkit.com/bikepacking

I met get transformed from old roadie to cycletramp at this rate.
Happy supping
Ian


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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2012, 10:57:52 PM »
Wow great info there lads yeah the stove is next on my list, as much as i love tea/ coffee actually drinking a cuppa as i speak ;D ;D it's very hard on my stomach.  the herbal stuff  i just cant get it down my neck  tried the green tea for a while it got a drop kick over the back wall  ::)
cant eat nuts  dentures i'm afraid went to the wrong dentist but that's a whole other story.
but yeah isn't it great to have something tasty to eat on a long spin and the time to eat it  fantastic.
thanks for that info lads reckon my saddle bag is going to be packed different on the next outing.

never though of hot chocolate my wife is on the hunt tomorrow for that Rooibos tea found it on the internet but expensive.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2012, 11:14:59 PM by jags »

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2012, 12:05:45 AM »
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...never though of hot chocolate...

Hot chocolate with the teeny-tiny marshmallows, jags. The marshmallows make all the difference. They melt across the top of the chocolate and make a creamy topping.  :D

Bliss!

Best,

Dan.

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2012, 12:09:14 AM »
emm sounds good to me  ;D ;D

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2012, 12:17:48 AM »
found the video this it fantastic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dahGaL6ehjc
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 12:33:06 AM by jags »

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2012, 01:21:05 AM »
Kukicha twig tea is very mild yet tasty. I boil the twigs for 5 minutes then strain them out. Might work for you in a vacuum flask. All that boiling might be too much fuel for cooking on the road!

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2012, 01:22:33 AM »
I come from where rooibos tea is native. Lidl rooibos is cheap and a pretty qood quality of what should be a soldier's or workingman's tea, not an expensive boutique item. You stew this tea, and add milk, even condensed milk, not lemon. -- Andre Jute

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2012, 01:42:16 AM »
This stuff, Andre?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooibos

Do you have Aldi there in Ireland as well as Lidl? The ones I saw seemed much the same.

As an aside, over the last several years, "tea bars" have begun to spring up here on the West Coast (lots around San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle) and Torani flavoring syrups are big for that market as for coffee. My first bike-touring partner eventually was VP for their North American sales. He tried to get me interested in flavoring my tea, but I seem to be a milk and sugar man. Not surprisingly, my favorite is Oregon Chai tea ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Chai ). Now *there* is a tea I think would suit jags! Very easy on the stomach and GI tract.

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2012, 12:44:52 PM »
I come from where rooibos tea is native. Lidl rooibos is cheap and a pretty qood quality of what should be a soldier's or workingman's tea, not an expensive boutique item. You stew this tea, and add milk, even condensed milk, not lemon. -- Andre Jute
i searched the internet last night for where sold that tea ,so aldi sell i'll be up there today so ;)

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2012, 12:47:34 PM »
yes Dan aldi/lidl are in full swing here, gonna try them today for the magic tea and maybe some soup but no big spins planned just yet.

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2012, 12:48:21 PM »
did you guys check out the video i posted lovely film well worth a watch. ;)

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2012, 03:53:51 PM »
This stuff, Andre?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooibos

Do you have Aldi there in Ireland as well as Lidl? The ones I saw seemed much the same.

Yep, that one. We have a Lidl locally -- a real, much overdue, wakeup call for the local supermarkets! -- but the nearest Aldi is three-quarters of an hour away by car.

Lidl's house brand of tea is Lord Nelson, Jags. I've also tried the Vanilla and Caramel flavoured ones, and like the Caramel one.

I watched that movie. Fascinating. Going to the Lake District for a week with 7 or 8 shillings in his pocket!

Andre Jute
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 03:55:29 PM by Hobbes »

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Re: whats in your saddlebag
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2012, 04:49:23 PM »
what about his cooking set up classic or what i reckon the only cloths he had was what he was wearing even though he camped out he didn't have panniers on his bike  just a  saddle bag/bar bag.
hard as bloody nails  ;)