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philb0412

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Difference between stems?
« on: April 25, 2012, 07:50:37 PM »
Hello all. I was just wondering if there was much difference in quality between stems. There may be weight differences, length and reach etc. But could a low quality stem ever fatigue over time or break even?

Basically I have a Thorn Raven Tour which I bought second hand. I put on a road stem from my old Carrera (Halfords) bike which gives a bit longer reach. Provided I use different bolts (The ones from the original Thorn stem) and grease them properly is there any reason why I shouldn't use this stem for my ride to China? Or shall I just pay and extra 15 quid for peace of mind.

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Re: Difference between stems?
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 08:24:29 PM »
i think your stem should be fine it's more than likely aluminium which i believe is spot on..

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Re: Difference between stems?
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 09:15:34 PM »
Phil asked...
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...could a low quality stem ever fatigue over time or break even?
Yes, but so could a new one, eventually! I have seen crummy-looking old stems soldier on and on while the odd new one can quickly develop cracks. And vice versa, of course.

Phil, so long as the stem appears sound on close visual inspection and it doesn't creak in use (which can be a sign of fatigue, loose bolts, or a poor match between stem and handlebar diameter), you should be fine. I'd be leery if it has signs of road rash or a damaged surface. however. You'll have an opportunity to inspect it when you swap the bolts over.

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I was just wondering if there was much difference in quality between stems...
Well, yes there is. The cheap ones are produced by less expensive means, which usually means they are melt-forged. To make up for any loss in strength, they tend to be solid or have thicker walls, makingt hem heavier for a given size. The more expensive ones are cold-forged and result in an aligned grain structure for greater ultimate strength; thinner walls or hollow cross-sections allow them to weigh less. In ordinary use there's not much practical difference.

If you have the extra 15 quid, then sure. If you don't, then I think you'll be fine so long as you inspect it closely. You may wish to consider a Thorn Accessory T-bar for your handlebar bag, if you carry one. That'll take that much more weight off the stem as well.

Very best wishes for a safe, happy journey. We'd love any updates you care to offer; good thoughts will go with you!

Dan.

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Re: Difference between stems?
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2012, 10:23:29 AM »
I'm also heading to China at some point on a used Raven Tour :)
I'm leaving August from Istanbul heading towards Iran, Pakistan,India (Visa situations allowing)

As for your stem, if it breaks it breaks, be it a new or used one. You'll have no problem picking up another stem on your travels.
Decent tyres and anything Rohloff specific is a different question though.

Good luck on your trip and stay in touch

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Re: Difference between stems?
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 01:00:22 PM »
Thanks very much chaps. I will give it a good look over when I take it off next. I'm planning on changing my handlebars from Thorn comfort to some flats too, so will have to see how it feels with them. I do already have the T bar for my bar bag thanks Dan.

Richie, I hope that my stem doesn't break; I don't want that hassle, nor do I want it to happen when I'm riding!

I am cycling down to Turkey then flying over Iran and Pakistan Ritch. Would love to cycle them, the people are supposed to be great. But I don't think I would get a visa, and there is a serious kidnap risk.