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bouced

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Problem with eccentric
« on: Today at 11:36:42 AM »
Hello

I would like to adjust my front chain tension but I think there is a problem with the screws.
I took two pictures from below.

Shouldn't there be a head on the screw so that I can loosen it to adjust the eccentric?

Bests

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Re: Problem with eccentric
« Reply #1 on: Today at 01:11:53 PM »
Gosh that's new to me.
How's about a few details, bike, age, is this the first time you have looked at this?
Matt.
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Re: Problem with eccentric
« Reply #2 on: Today at 03:18:56 PM »
Gosh that's new to me.
How's about a few details, bike, age, is this the first time you have looked at this?
Matt.

I bought the bike second-hand about two years ago. Sorry I don't know its age.
The frame is a thorn voyager like this one:https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/frames/medium-xx-small-thorn-voyager-tandem-frame-yellow/?geoc=FR.
It's the first time I look at this part of the bike.

Cedric

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Re: Problem with eccentric
« Reply #3 on: Today at 03:31:33 PM »
It appears the machine screws have sheared flush from the application of too much torque. If so, then a time tested means for extraction involves drilling and using a screw extractor ("EZ Out").

Best, Dan.

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Re: Problem with eccentric
« Reply #4 on: Today at 05:13:16 PM »
From the photo I can't see what kind of eccentric you have in it.

On my Thorn Nomad Mk II, I have a gold colored eccentric, some photos of mine and also info on how I adjust it at this link:
https://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=14475

If your eccentric looks different than mine, then I have no idea if my discussion at that link is applicable.

I sort of agree with Dan's comments, but I can't imagine how the eccentric pinch bolts could shear off, I suspect someone cut them off with a saw.  If that is the case, I agree with Dan, drilling and a screw extractor.  Perhaps start with a center punch so that the drill bit does not wander about as you start drilling

If they are the same ones I use, they are a very fine thread.


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Re: Problem with eccentric
« Reply #5 on: Today at 05:29:30 PM »
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I can't imagine how the eccentric pinch bolts could shear off...
George, I wondered the same thing, so I tried to play forensic analyst...

I went to the linked profile of the frame and note Thorn is (currently) selling the frame alone and says, "These frames are made to a price, finish is not perfect but completely functional". This indicates the frames weren't made to the same spec as Thorn's higher priced offerings. The rear dropouts support this, as they differ from the other tandems Thorn produced.

In Cedric's photos, the sockets for the machine screws aren't milled from billet and circumferentially welded as on our Nomads. Rather, they are nuts tack-welded to the eccentric BB shell. I'm not sure the screws are the same diameter or fine pitch as ours. If the pitch is more coarse and the diameter smaller, then any shearing might have been the result of the previous owner's attempts to get the eccentric screws tight enough to hold against the force of two people's pedaling torque.

It is odd they'd shear at about the same point, but I suppose the nuts could have served as a collar to isolate the threaded shaft until it emerged and twisting forces concentrated on the unsupported shaft. A bit hard to tell, but I think the break doesn't look clean enough to be sawn through, and my first thought -- that they'd somehow hit something and sheared from impact -- isn't supported by the photos.

Just some thoughts on a Friday morning that saw me awakening to reddened leaves on the trees -- strong hints of Fall!

Best, Dan.