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How much is a steel frame worth in scrap value?
Moronic:
Let's get straight to the point here.
You don't like your frame and you don't want to sell it as a frame. You've not expressed any doubt about the scrap value proposed by PH, which was 40p IFF someone were interested in such a small quantity of scrap.
So you have all the information you need. The only remaining question for you is the method of disposal.
You could throw it on a rubbish dump somewhere (which might come with costs). You could store it at home somewhere (might be costs of a different kind). Or you could offer it on this forum or eBay for free, with postage paid by the recieiver.
It really is that simple. Of course packing it up for a receiver who was paying postage might be a chore. In which case you have the other two options.
What am I missing, and what was it that led you to post here rather than researching the scrap value yourself?
JohnR:
This discussion has highlighted that the frame shouldn't be considered as scrap metal. It will be worth something to someone somewhere. Yes, the EBB design has been superseded (but parts available subject to purchase and shipping charges) and it's not beyond the capability of someone with some metal-working skills to make a modification to the BB. The same must also apply to the fitting of a chain tensioner. The latter option should be quite easy: Cut and drill a piece of metal plate so it can be bolted to the two mounting holes and provides a place for fitting a chain tensioner.
I've got a redundant aluminium frame in my garage which I wasn't considering recycling as scrap. It's probable destination is a local charity which specialises in bike rebuilding and, most likely, could combined the frame with other donated components to create a usable bicycle. Does Warsaw have such charities?
Bill C:
although i agree the ebb is a poor design and not fitting a mech hanger when designing the frame wasn't a great choice either scrapping it seems a bit extreme,
if it was mine (not that i'd ever buy into rohloff or a rohloff specific frame) i would place it on ebay buyer collects and cash on collection,
start it at 40p (the scrap value mentioned up thread) or what ever that is in euro's and anything over the starting price is a bonus,
if the hype is to be believed their are plenty of rohloff users gagging for decent frame or maybe an alfine user
good luck finding it a deserving home
PH:
--- Quote from: Bill C on January 05, 2022, 06:47:48 pm ---although i agree the ebb is a poor design ....
not that i'd ever buy into rohloff or a rohloff specific frame
--- End quote ---
It's hard to reconcile those two statements, what leads you to that opinion if you have no experience?
It's a design which is common enough, often found on budget tandems. The only issues I've heard of have been user error, either overtightening or misunderstanding how frequently the chain needs adjusting, in neither case have I ever known it to be fatal. As Sheldon says in the link above:
This system does have a couple of drawbacks: The ends of the set screws can dent the outer surface of the eccentric, making very fine adjustment a bit difficult. Since it relies on threads cut into the frame, if these threads get damaged, you could be in big trouble. This is rarely a problem in practice.
Bill C:
--- Quote from: PH on January 05, 2022, 08:50:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bill C on January 05, 2022, 06:47:48 pm ---although i agree the ebb is a poor design ....
not that i'd ever buy into rohloff or a rohloff specific frame
--- End quote ---
It's hard to reconcile those two statements, what leads you to that opinion if you have no experience?
It's a design which is common enough, often found on budget tandems. The only issues I've heard of have been user error, either overtightening or misunderstanding how frequently the chain needs adjusting, in neither case have I ever known it to be fatal. As Sheldon says in the link above:
This system does have a couple of drawbacks: The ends of the set screws can dent the outer surface of the eccentric, making very fine adjustment a bit difficult. Since it relies on threads cut into the frame, if these threads get damaged, you could be in big trouble. This is rarely a problem in practice.
--- End quote ---
Hi PH
i don't need to buy a rohloff to know its not for me, same as i don't need to buy a humvee to know it isn't for me i read up on them and made an informed decision that i'm much better served with a derailleur bike
i also don't need a rohloff to know an ebb has faults, i have had a scott sub35 with an ebb
the fault i found was that if i adjusted the ebb to remove the slack in the chain then the pedals moved and where no longer comfortable for me i have arthritis in both knee's and they are sensitive to saddle height/pedal position
as for rohloffs i'm not going to go into why i don't want one as people who have bought into them seem to have thin skins and are easily offended by an unbeliever
i rarely come here these days as when i do 9 times out of 10 some one gets the hump,
i do try to refrain from posting on the forum but sometimes i i get the urge to read/talk Thorn
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