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jul

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S & S torque coupling option
« on: December 03, 2015, 12:34:36 PM »
Hi,

Do you know if it's possible to buy this option somewhere ? ( S&S coupling ) i searched but didn't find on the website.

And after that to built by myself when i'll find my future frame ...

Thanks
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mickeg

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 04:24:49 PM »
http://www.sandsmachine.com/fbplist.htm

I suspect only steel is an option for most of them.  If Aluminum, you are likely out of luck.

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 11:12:10 PM »
But why would u want it a good cardboard box will work great if your travelling  by air. ;)


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jul

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2015, 12:24:02 PM »
I find this option interesting, i like the compact things ..

jags

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2015, 12:30:03 PM »
each to there own i personally think it's a gimic.

jul

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2015, 04:11:16 PM »
Maybe you're right jags.

Which bike do you have ?!

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2015, 04:30:46 PM »
Julio i no longer have a thorn i ride a Terry Dolan le tape road bike super machine.
my last thorn was the  audax  great bike but to big for me i was over strectched  so didn't do my back much good.
before that was  the sherpa cracking bike sold it along with all my top end camping gear .
so now im back to square one once again  ;D ;D
i hope to have a touring framset for next year i have most of the gear for touring  .
what part of the planet are u in julio im in ireland.where the sun never stops shining  :o :o

il padrone

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2015, 09:11:26 PM »
I believe the couplers are very handy for US bus travel, and some European rail travel, where bikes are not allowed. You cannot cycle with a bike box. With the couplers you can break the bike down, put it in a smaller fabric bag (which you can carry with you), and it is no longer visible, no longer a bike.

jul

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2015, 10:23:25 PM »
Haha !

I live in France next to the Brittany .. far from the daesh attaks   :-X

I took informations about couplers from a french shop.. they don't want to sell  couplers only. They can sell this option if i decide to accept they built for me on my frame, for a small fee of 431 £   :o

So i cancel this option   :-\  except if i find a frame  for sell on ebay like the S&S Nomad  for cheap price   ;D

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2015, 10:27:29 PM »
not worth it  julio ,can u see your self going by bus ,take a train instead or better still use your new bike.what size frame are u after .

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2015, 10:30:00 PM »
Your other option for travel ease on French trains would be the Bike Friday. Bike Friday's Pocket Rocket?


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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2015, 10:57:37 PM »
Haha !

I live in France next to the Brittany .. far from the daesh attaks   :-X

I took informations about couplers from a french shop.. they don't want to sell  couplers only. They can sell this option if i decide to accept they built for me on my frame, for a small fee of 431 £   :o

So i cancel this option   :-\  except if i find a frame  for sell on ebay like the S&S Nomad  for cheap price   ;D

That is actually a good price for a frame conversion.  The couplers are not cheap to buy, a competent frame builder has to braze or weld them on, then the frame needs to be repainted.

Ritchey also makes a bike with a breakaway option.

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2015, 02:53:56 AM »
Julio,

WRT the S&S Coupler option on the Nomad...many buyers have found if they leave steerer uncut, the fork must be carried separately, as it will not fit in the usual 26inx26inx10in "package" often used for minimal fees when flying with an S&S equipped bike. Those who carry the fork separately simply include it with their carry-on items when boarding a flight.

I think it *might* be possible to fit everything in one box if -- depending on frame size -- the steerer were cut short and a riser stem were used.

Expanding a bit on mickeg's caution, except in rare circumstances, S&S do not sell the couplings separately to braze into a bicycle. The reason is liability. S&S cautions, "BTCs™ are sold only to professional bicycle framebuilders.  We're sorry but couplings are not sold to amateur framebuilders." http://www.sandsmachine.com/ There are restrictions/limitations on the grease used to lubricate the couplings to prevent galling (galvanic corrosion, "cold-welding"), and users are urged by S&S to check the tightness of the couplings daily or more often with hard use.

Best,

Dan.

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2015, 08:21:29 AM »
I considered S&S couplers when I ordered my first Thorn. After discussion with one of the people at Thorn I decided against them. With a full-length fork, mudguards, racks and lights a split bike makes two awkward packages.

I had a Moulton TSR that split in a similar way, but I didn't use the feature very much.

I don't do air travel, and so far I have always managed to get a full-size bike onto French trains on the rare occasions I have needed to.

For taking a bike on other transport with the least hassle possible I have Brompton folding bikes. These fold down small and fit in a bag that is easily carried on the bike. Once bagged, a Brompton looks like ordinary luggage so can go anywhere, even on urban buses. Not quite as good as a full size bike for road touring, the small wheels are worse than large wheels for use on tracks and paths, but I have used Bromptons extensively in both situations when I need to combine with other transport.

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Re: S & S torque coupling option
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2015, 12:00:23 PM »
... Those who carry the fork separately simply include it with their carry-on items when boarding a flight.
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I would not want airport security personnel telling me that it looks like a club and preventing me from carrying it on after I have already checked my other luggage.  I plan to check it in a long duffel.

A friend of mine used to carry a carbon kayak paddle that broke down into two pieces as a carryon, but that was in the 1990s when such things were allowed.
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