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in4

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Ovaling
« on: February 25, 2015, 07:24:56 PM »
Having fitted some new Marathon supremes; the ones with a reflective strip I've noticed some slight ovaling in my rear wheel. I know the refllective strip does not form a complete circle so my eye was initally thrown but there is a noticable ovaling although not so noticable that I'm aware of it when riding; no circus imagery here!
There is no lateral buckling and my spokes are all uniformly tight. I'll refit my tyre and tube ( they seem fine though) but are my concerns justified or just a tad over the top?
Thanks

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Re: Ovaling
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 07:57:33 PM »
Having fitted some new Marathon supremes; the ones with a reflective strip I've noticed some slight ovaling in my rear wheel. I know the refllective strip does not form a complete circle so my eye was initally thrown but there is a noticable ovaling although not so noticable that I'm aware of it when riding; no circus imagery here!
There is no lateral buckling and my spokes are all uniformly tight. I'll refit my tyre and tube ( they seem fine though) but are my concerns justified or just a tad over the top?
Thanks

I find getting the bead evenly seated can be a problem with certain models of tyre, especially in the wider sizes, for example my Marathon Supreme 50 mm width, I have the version with Kevlar beads, but have had similar problems on some wire bead tyres.

Using a tyre seating product, then overinflating slightly (but be careful not to overdo it!) has worked for me. I have the proprietary Schwalbe product, but diluted washing-up liquid is supposed to work just as well. 

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Re: Ovaling
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2015, 08:14:58 PM »
I had the same problem with Marathon Supreme (folding 32c), l deflated them enough to work the bead into place and then inflated to 90 psi and the reset to riding pressures,  I was a little surprised that they didn't sit right first time, but its an easy fix

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Re: Ovaling
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2015, 09:09:58 PM »
Ian,

First check the bead molding line just above the rim sidewall; it should be an even distance from the rim all the way 'round if the tire bead is seated properly. Once you verify the bead is seated evenly and fully, then you can objectively assess how much and where the tire is ovalized, and perhaps even document it for a warranty claim.

Often, I've found the reflective strips on tires are slightly misapplied, leading to an out-of-round appearance, as you already know.

More rarely, I've found there can be anomalies in the way the tire itself is molded and constructed, resulting in a "hop" as that part comes 'round. If it is severe, it can be noticeable when riding. The support section of Shwalbe's website has a section telling what to do to photographically document tire defects for a warranty claim. Unfortunately, I've found some of my Schwalbes are ovalized to a disturbing degree, but it is almost impossible to capture in a single photograph. Video would do the job, but there seems to be no way to submit vdeo for a warranty claim. I need to pursue this issue on my own, but lack the time at present to do so.

Be sure to check the tube is not bunched-up inside the tire. Also, is the "bump" over the valve stem? The bead can still be seated but the profile rendered a little "off" if the valve isn't fully seated.

Best,

Dan.

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Re: Ovaling
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2015, 09:13:39 AM »
Many thanks for your advices. I reckon the valve stem is the culprit; it is very 'snug' in the valve hole so I'll refit with care. Interestingly the threaded 'screw' that runs through the valve plug was a little bent too. I've fixed that now althought I would not have expected that defect on a Schwalbe product. That's another bit of spare junk to cart around in my bulging camper longflap then.  :)