Author Topic: Graphene and hydrogen cell batteries/chargers  (Read 3282 times)

in4

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Graphene and hydrogen cell batteries/chargers
« on: February 27, 2016, 03:14:12 PM »
I'm sure there are other discussions available surrounding this topic but this one from the BBC ( no implicit endorsement from me ) in their 'Click' programme shows how graphene and hydrogen cells might soon be powering mobile phones, and from that gps, tablets etc. Will we soon be able to hook up a graphene battery cell to a hub dynamo and recharge a steripen quicker than it takes me to type this!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b072sbqm/click-27022016


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Re: Graphene and hydrogen cell batteries/chargers
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 05:12:19 PM »
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Will we soon be able to hook up a graphene battery cell to a hub dynamo and recharge a steripen quicker than it takes me to type this!
I have faith we'll get there, sooner or later, Ian.

I simply prefer more to less and sooner to later!  ;)

All the best,

Dan.

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Re: Graphene and hydrogen cell batteries/chargers
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2016, 01:20:25 PM »
Further to my initial post I found this article on Crazy guy singing the praises of 'D1' chargers.

https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/reviews/board/message/?o=tS&thread_id=695404&page=1&nested=0&v=2

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Re: Graphene and hydrogen cell batteries/chargers
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 03:45:36 PM »
That's looks interesting, as I'm currently looking into a dynamo charging and a reasonable price to boot....

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Re: Graphene and hydrogen cell batteries/chargers
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 05:47:46 PM »
That Crazy Guy on a Bike review said 15 watts if you go fast enough.

This link: http://www.ctc.org.uk/file/public/feature-hub-dynamos.pdf
has a graph on page 3 with output against speed for several different hubs.  Even at 50 km/hour, none of the tested hubs beat 5 watts.  So, I don't think 15 watts is going to happen any time soon.  And at the speeds that I ride, that certainly is not going to happen ever.  That makes me question the soundness of the review.

I discussed my search for a USB charger and my final decision on what to buy at this link:  http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=11153.msg81461#msg81461

And my opinion has not changed, I am still happy with the Luxx 70 Plus.  But if I was going to buy a dedicated USB charger without headlight, I would have bought the Sinewave Revolution.  I have no idea if the Revolution has greater current capacity than what I have, but it has outstanding waterproofing and good overvoltage protection.  And I do not want to mount it on the stem cap, so that rules out some options.

Additional information since I wrote that review:

1.  I have picked up a couple cheap small Li Ion storage batteries that I found I can plug a USB charging cable into and simultaneously plug in another USB cable to draw power out of them.  That acts like a cache battery and smooths out the power fluctuations in addition to maintaining charging to whatever I want charged when I stop for stop lights, etc.  And it would be nice to have a couple of those cheap storage batteries charged up when I am not moving in the campsite.  That is the only change since I wrote that review of the Luxx headlight.

2.  I have commented before that I use a batter powered taillight, thus did not buy a dyno powered taillight.  I checked the power at the taillight connectors on the Luxx and it only sends power to a taillight when the headlight is on.  Thus, if I wanted to use a dyno powered taillight while using the USB charger, it would not work.  I learned this after I wrote the review.
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