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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: ?oil leak
« Last post by PH on December 09, 2025, 02:25:42 PM »
Put a piece of tape, any sort, over the screw after cleaning around it with isopropyl or something similar.  That won't stop any oil leaking, but it'll make it obvious if that's where it's coming from.  I'm skeptical that enough oil would get past the grub screw to form a pool, but you won't know till you investigate further.
How old is the hub?  My oldest one started leaking after about 15 years, but it's very inconsistent, sometimes it was after a long ride, sometimes when I'd just been to the shops, sometimes not for weeks, I tried to be consistent in the way I parked it, but it didn't make any difference. I occasionally think about getting it fixed, but instead just follow the oil change method in the Living With a Rohloff booklet, basically give it a better flush and drain most of the oil back out,  it's been fine doing that for the last 6 years.
It's up to you, but I wouldn't bother doing another oil change till it's due (I'd also not be buying kits, it's a very expensive way to buy what you need) Rohloff themselves say if all the oil were to leak out there's still enough coating the parts to be fine till the next change.
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: ?oil leak
« Last post by swayzak on December 09, 2025, 12:08:53 PM »
Sounds like a leak from the screw - a bit of a coincidence to suddenly get a leak from some other place.

What volume of oil did you put in?   The recommendation used to be 25ml but is now half that.   If you had put in 25ml you may be OK?

I am now using blue hylomar gasket sealant on the plug.  It is a non-setting sealant and seems to work well both as a sealer and to stop the plug undoing, and is easily found in UK.  Obviously clean the plug and hub threads first.

Thanks - I used the volumes (and instructions) provided in the kit from SJS cycles
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: ?oil leak
« Last post by Andyb1 on December 09, 2025, 11:53:45 AM »
Sounds like a leak from the screw - a bit of a coincidence to suddenly get a leak from some other place.

What volume of oil did you put in?   The recommendation used to be 25ml but is now half that.   If you had put in 25ml you may be OK?

I am now using blue hylomar gasket sealant on the plug.  It is a non-setting sealant and seems to work well both as a sealer and to stop the plug undoing, and is easily found in UK.  Obviously clean the plug and hub threads first.
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / ?oil leak
« Last post by swayzak on December 09, 2025, 10:50:36 AM »
Hello

As per my other post re chain slippage, I changed the Rohloff oil at the weekend

Rode it into work today for the first time this week & a small pool of black liquid gathered under the back wheel (noticed by a colleague about an hour afer I arrived)

Thing is I lost both new & old grub screws during the oil change (I find it quite fiddly putting them back in, and my eye sight is not what it used to be)

I then found the old one (which had a small amount of sealant on it) so had to use that

So I suspect this was insufficent & the black pool was an oil leak (although it didn't seem particularly oily when I cleaned it up) :(

How critical is the quantity of sealant in preventing Rohloff leaks?

I have purchased replacement kit so the hub should be nice and clean after a 2nd change in 7 days!
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Rohloff Gravel bike recommendations?
« Last post by PH on December 06, 2025, 05:23:26 PM »
Obviously just me, but I can still not understand why drop bars are used when riding off road.  But then I have never tried.
I don't get it either, though I'm usually of the opinion that things I don't get are probably not aimed at me.  It isn't just the drop bars, the other common elements of the sorts of Gravel bikes I come across - steep seat tube, short chainstays, short headtube, fast steering - wouldn't suit me either, on or off road.  However, there's a long tradition of drop bars off road, it's always been the default for cyclocross and it's the norm in all the nostalgic Rough Stuff Fellowship photos.
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Strange behaviour with 12 year old Rohloff Thorne bike
« Last post by UKTony on December 06, 2025, 03:36:38 PM »
👍 thanks for the feedback.
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Rohloff Gravel bike recommendations?
« Last post by swayzak on December 06, 2025, 02:09:02 PM »
I (simplistically perhaps) thought a gravel bike is basically a road-style bike (eg drop handle bars) which is made to cope with a larger variety of surfaces (and the transition between)

eg smooth(ish) tarmac roads, pavements, cycle paths, gravel tracks

Higher clearance, slightly wider tyres etc than road bike

So allowing a more flexible ride (surface-wise)

I might be wrong though!
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Strange behaviour with 12 year old Rohloff Thorne bike
« Last post by swayzak on December 06, 2025, 02:01:05 PM »
Tightened the chain and changed oil - seems to have fixed it!

Not sure whether one or both solved it though..
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Wheels, Tyres and Brakes / Re: Thorn Sherpa Mk2 Max Tyre Width
« Last post by Danneaux on December 05, 2025, 09:27:17 PM »
I have two Sherpa Mk2 forks, one fitted to my DB Transporter, the other of a different offset in a box. When I'm home a bit later, I'll measure maximum clearance between the bare fork blades. I'll also take a look at clearance with my 26 x 2.0 labeled Innova Swiftor on the T-porter; as I recall, it is a bit wider than my 2.0 Duremes when inflated to the same pressure.

Remember, bike tires tend to have a 1:1 (1.0) aspect ratio, so a fatter tire will also be taller and have less clearance at the fork crown and chainstay/seatstay bridges, mostly a consideration if you also intend to run mudguards with adequate clearance. Fatter/taller tires can also affect standover and cornering clearance if either of those are marginal for your needs. As Andy pointed out, not all tires of the same labeled size have the same physical dimensions, including width or diameter.

A quick search of the archives brought this to light, hopefully helpful to you...
https://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=6389.0
...perhaps even more helpful than me measuring a bare fork, as it is based on some practical experience with tires wider than mine?

Best, Dan.
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Rohloff Gravel bike recommendations?
« Last post by martinf on December 05, 2025, 09:12:51 PM »
Since I mostly ride the road bike, I didn't want to spend the money -- or effort -- getting a Rohloff setup.  Boy, do I now regret that!  After just 8 months -- not much more than 1,000 miles -- I already had to spend $200 for a new Shimano GPX shifter!  What freaking garbage!  So, any ideas for a Rohloff equipped gravel bike?

The gravel bikes I see advertised are generally drop bar bikes with moderately wide tyres, no mudguards and derailleur gears. In my opinion, drop bars depend on personal preference, at 69 years old I still prefer them for longish rides, even off road. Fairly wide tyres are sensible.

The other two features may be OK in a mostly dry climate but are not suitable where I live (near the coast in South Brittany) for what I reckon is the purpose of a "gravel" bike - riding on both tarmac roads and unsurfaced tracks and paths that aren't quite rough enough to warrant a mountain bike.

In the 1970's, when I lived either in Devon or Lancashire, we called it "rough stuff" and used touring bikes with 27" tyres in the 32 mm which was the widest easily available at the time. And derailleur gears, because the only reliable hub gear readily available was the Sturmey Archer 3-speed.

Then and now, for that kind of riding, I need mudguards, as if I want to use the bike reasonably often I am not going to wait until the rain stops and the road surface dries out.

The same goes for derailleur gears now that medium and wide range hub gears are availble. I don't want to have to clean the drivetrain after every other ride just because the track was wet. So a Rohloff and Chainglider works well for me. For most of my rides a Shimano Alfine or Nexus Premium eight speed hub would be sufficient, but it is nice to have the very low gears of the Rohloff for the occasional very steep hill.

I suppose a belt drive would be just as good, but none of my existing bikes are belt compatible, so not worth trying unless/until I need to get a purpose-built electric bike with advancing age.
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