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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Fitting front Hebie Chainglider 38t
« Last post by daviddd55 on March 27, 2026, 12:53:07 PM »
Thnx for responses; I'll try spacers first.
Is it possible to fit the front Chainglider without the rear?
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Fitting front Hebie Chainglider 38t
« Last post by martinf on March 27, 2026, 06:41:47 AM »
You may need to fit a thinner chainring as well.  Hebie say max thickness should be 3mm but I have been using 4mm wide chainwheels on 2 bikes with no problems.

Same here.

Since 2011 I have been using a fairly thick TA chainring for 1/8" chain under a ChainGlider on my old utility since 2011. It rubbed a bit at first but soon wore in.

For the chainring bolts, you can either buy a set of shorter bolts, generally designed for use with single chainrings, or you might be able to put the right diameter and number of washers onto the existing bolts to make up the thickness of the chainring cover. I have occasionally done the latter, using stainless steel washers. Aluminium chainring spacers could also work.   
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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Re: Fitting front Hebie Chainglider 38t
« Last post by Andyb1 on March 26, 2026, 10:28:55 PM »
You may need to fit a thinner chainring as well.  Hebie say max thickness should be 3mm but I have been using 4mm wide chainwheels on 2 bikes with no problems.
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Clothing suitable for cycling with a high UPF factor
« Last post by in4 on March 26, 2026, 06:07:11 PM »
Extract from North Face reply re their LightRange Woven Jacket.

https://www.thenorthface.com/en-us/p/mens/mens-hike-263754/mens-lightrange-woven-jacket-NF0A8ES9?color=JV4

Thanks for contacting The North Face Customer Care.
Thank you for reaching out and for your interest in our Men’s LightRange Woven Jacket.

As per the care label on the jacket, it does indeed feature Ultraviolet Protection Factor (UPF) properties. Specifically, the LightRange Woven Jacket offers UPF 40+ protection, which blocks 97.5% or more of the sun’s harmful UV rays.

This level of protection, combined with the jacket’s lightweight, breathable, and moisture-managing FlashDry™ fabric, makes it a great choice for outdoor activities such as cycling. The anti-odour technology is also beneficial for longer trips where frequent washing isn’t always possible.

For your intended use cycling through Europe this summer, the LightRange Woven Jacket should serve you well. If you are specifically seeking a garment with a higher UPF rating of 40–50, please rest assured that this jacket already meets the lower end of that range with its UPF 40+ rating.

Should you have any further questions or require assistance with sizing or placing an order, please don’t hesitate to contact us.

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Rohloff Internal Hub Gears / Fitting front Hebie Chainglider 38t
« Last post by daviddd55 on March 26, 2026, 04:24:14 PM »
My Thorn Raven has a steel chainring cover outboard of the (38t) ring itself - this came as standard in 2007 (and 100,000+ miles ago) when I bought the bike. If I want to fit the Chainglider I'll have to remove this covering ring so that the chain (only) fits inside (as I understand it). But the present 5 chainring bolts are too long without the cover ring and won't tighten, so it seems I need a new set of 5 smaller bolts. Does anyone have an idea of the spec / size of bolt needed for this? There seems to be a large array of possibilities.
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Clothing suitable for cycling with a high UPF factor
« Last post by Danneaux on March 26, 2026, 12:23:51 PM »
Over my 35+ years of desert touring, I've found it difficult to carry "enough" sunscreen to keep up with effective application guidelines, especially over extended periods of 3-4 weeks at a time. Some sunscreen lotions don't agree with me and my clothing over time, as I can taste it after application and it attacks the elastane elements in stretch clothing.

I've found my solution in sun-protective clothing -- Jerseys, shorts, sun sleeves for arms and legs, and a good "buff" to protect my scalp from sun through the helmet vents and my nose and neck from direct sun exposure.

I wish such things had been available in my earlier years of heavy sun and UV exposure, as I am paying the price now. I have completed repeated rounds of topical chemotherapy for actinic keratosis (pre-skin cancer) and for early-stage squamous-cell cancer and it isn't fun. Sunburn prevention really is key and your future self will thank you for taking precautions now.

My early jerseys and such were sourced from Brazil but as more people become aware, similar breathable/protective clothing that is sport-specific has become readily available as the market need expands. A lot of growth occurred in the construction and roofing fields, where need for all-day protection is great.

Here's some relevant links to helpful products...
https://www.buff.com/safety/hazards/sun/
https://dabrim.com/products/cycling-classic
https://www.roadbikerider.com/top-cycling-apparel-uv-protection/
https://www.pearlizumi.com/collections/sun-protection

I've found such products can command premium prices when purchased from "name" makers. Similar or identical products can often be found on eBay or Amazon, often produced in the same factories or as convincing, functional knockoffs for a fraction of the price. Tip: If you prefer a full-length jersey zip, leave it open only in the mornings and evenings when UV load is least. Otherwise, reflected rays from the road can really burn your chest, even when cycling on the drops.

Best, Dan.
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Clothing suitable for cycling with a high UPF factor
« Last post by mickeg on March 26, 2026, 10:40:12 AM »
If you have not had a bad sunburn from cycling before, you might not realize that your legs are exposed to the sun differently than if you were standing or walking.  With bent knees on a bike, your legs below shorts are exposed differently that walking or standing.  For cycling I make sure I put an adequate amount of sunscreen on the front of my legs above the knees and below the knees enough sunscreen on the backs and sides of my legs.  On my arms, the inside of the arms that are not usually exposed to the sun if I am standing or walking get a lot of sun exposure when my hands are on my handlebars.  I use drop bars, so my hands are often on the hoods, thus my hands are twisted a bit differently than if I was using flat bars, thus the insides of my arms, especially near and below the elbows get a lot more sun when cycling compared to other activities.

If you are not wearing normal cycling clothing, don't forget that visibility on a bike is quite important.  On one tour I did with a friend, he wore a long sleeve shirt and a high vis vest over it.  Attached photo, but the high vis color is somewhat muted in overcast conditions, such as the photo.  (Dan has seen this photo before, I think he said it is near home.)  Second photo, days later, where you are in intermittent shade, the high vis is even more important.

I only mention this here because we have some world travelers that look at this forum.  Some sunscreens can damage coral reefs.
https://www.hawaii-guide.com/blog/hawaii-new-reef-safe-sunscreen-law
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Clothing suitable for cycling with a high UPF factor
« Last post by in4 on March 26, 2026, 09:01:45 AM »
https://www.bol.com/be/nl/p/regatta-unisex-protector-ii-roll-up-neck-baseball-cap/9200000125182884/

I use one of these. Sits beneath a helmet easily.

Also used one of these (prevously known as an Araphat) Quite adaptable compared to the Regatta one. Designed for fishing though and bit bulkier. Image might be an issue in somer countries though. 

https://sunprotectionaustralia.com/products/adapt-a-cap

Thus far I can say that our collective sartorial elegance is beyond compare!

Shirt wise, Ive also found the Columbia shirts very practical. Like Andre I've also used plain, dress shirts too. Ive used Trespass shirts in the past and they had pit zips: great for ventilation.

Many thanks for the contributions and suggestions so far.
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Clothing suitable for cycling with a high UPF factor
« Last post by Andre Jute on March 26, 2026, 01:36:12 AM »

You could wear a baseball cap right way round under your helmet to keep the sun off your nose and keep the perspiration out of your eyes, and sew on a piece of hanging cloth, French Foreign Legion style, at the back to keep the sun off your neck.

l wear a cotton dress shirt with the collar turned up to meet the helmet, and the cuffs overlap the leather dress gloves I cycle in. Works for me.

BTW, I hold my cotton khakis up with braces so that air can flow through, rather than a belt which would restrict airflow, and wear the shirt outside the trousers to promote airflow.

You'd look a right neddy in that hat George's chum uses, especially in red. A free air ticket to Australia should come with that hat.

I'm so fair that I never tan, my skin only burns. Recently I've had surgery for two melanomas and picked up a valuable tip. One of the surgeons told me that if I wanted all traces of the operation on the back of my hand to disappear, I should rub on Vaseline daily. The Vaseline has also had additional benefits beyond disappearing all traces of the surgery: it has almost eliminated the dried skin spots which are the starting point for melanomas when they harden (and faster if you scratch them off--once they start it is a lose-lose lottery), and the red blotches and brown spots of age have gone, so that my hands look forty years younger. I'm not vain but...
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Clothing suitable for cycling with a high UPF factor
« Last post by WorldTourer on March 25, 2026, 10:46:38 PM »
For the last 60,000 km I have cycled in a Columbia Omni-Shade UV-proof long-sleeve shirt on top of a Smartwool microweight merino-wool base layer. This combination is quite comfortable, and on particularly hot days I can unbutton much of the shirt because, of course, it is one’s back and arms that are getting most of the sun.

The Columbia shirts are remarkably durable and a good investment. There is a little pilling on the fabric of the first shirt I bought long ago, but I should still be able to use it for years to come.
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