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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by Andyb1 on Today at 08:41:48 AM »
As Matt has said, on our Raven Tours the bolts have pointy ends and are designed to dig into the EBB so will leave an indentation in the soft alloy.   If small rotational adjustments of the EBB are made the indentations can become a groove and the eccentric is then not correctly locked.

On mine I can remove the bolts, look down the holes with a torch, and rotate the EBB to see where the next indentation is.  I have been lucky as mine had been adjusted properly by the PO and the indentations were well spaced apart - so I have simply reused those indentations rather than make new ones.

I have found that the bolts can loosen off so mine are now drilled and lockwired (others use bands made from innertube).   I also found that after 1500 miles in one position that the bolts needed to be wound in a touch further to take out a little looseness between the EBB and frame - the downward loads from cycling had pushed the bolts deeper into the EBB.

If you get new nuts welded on make sure they are fine thread M8, not standard M8 nuts.

Edited to add:
What I have written above is relevant to a Raven, looks like the Voyager may use a slightly different system with flat ended bolts??
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by UKTony on Today at 08:35:38 AM »
According to the details in the link Cedric posted earlier

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/frames/medium-xx-small-thorn-voyager-tandem-frame-yellow/?geoc=FR

the eccentric screws that go with that Voyager frame are these

https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/bottom-brackets/thorn-screw-lock-nut-set-for-new-voyager-frame-eccentric-fitting/

Unfortunately no details are given about the thread etc measurements but if you messsge SJSCYCLES I’m sure they’ll tell you and confirm if these ard in fact the set of screws you’ll need.
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Bikes For Sale / Re: Thorn Raven Sport Tour
« Last post by MarkG on Today at 12:11:08 AM »
Hey, just to let people know that this is still available.

I've been dealing with some family matters so apologies for the silence.

Mark
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by Matt2matt2002 on September 13, 2026, 07:49:04 PM »
All good informed replies above.

Given the condition of the bolts, I would be inclined to at least take a look at the eccentric. Perhaps the previous owner can shed some light on recent maintenance? Does it have lots of small indentations?

I managed to take a look at the eccentric without taking the cranks off by sliding it half out when the bolts were removed. I think a crank puller is required for that job to be done properly and beyond my limited mechanical abilities.

Looking forward to hearing your progress.
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by mickeg on September 12, 2026, 07:06:54 PM »
I agree with Dan, likely metric.  But there are fine threaded and course threaded versions, so if you get them out undamaged, measure the diameter and the pitch.  Your mechanic friends most certainly should be able to help.

If it is M8 X 0.75, you likely need this one.  That is the same one I use on my Nomad Mk II.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/bottom-brackets/thorn-m8-extra-fine-conepointed-screw-for-eccentric-bottom-bracket-shell/

One thing that has not been mentioned here, if you get them out and get new bolts, you should install the eccentric so that the thick metal part is the part that the pinch bolts press against.  If you set it up so the pinch bolts press against thin metal, it may deform, thus you want to avoid that.  See attached photo of mine, the thick part of the eccentric is on the bottom where the pinch bolts are, not the thin part of the eccentric.
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by Danneaux on September 12, 2026, 06:22:58 PM »
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Do you think that the threading is to be metric
I think it is almost certain to be, but it would pay to check after the broken studs are removed.

Please let us know how you come out. Your colleagues should be able to get things sorted for you.

Best of luck, Dan.
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by bouced on September 12, 2026, 04:53:40 PM »
Thanks a lot for all yours answers. I'll try to contact the man who sold me the bike and ask him what happened.

Some colleagues of mine are mechanic, I'll have some help of that topic.

Do you think that the threading is to be metric?
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by PH on September 12, 2026, 02:57:35 PM »
Does look like a job for an EZ Out as Dan suggests, but they're not as easy as the name suggests and what is easy is making it worse! If you have a small mechanic or engineering works near you, it might be worth a visit, a workshop used to dealing with older motorbikes would be ideal, they'll be very familiar with removing sheared bolts.
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by B cereus on September 12, 2026, 09:18:38 AM »
The welds holding the nuts on look to be crudely executed. It occurs to me that an alternative approach would be to carefully grind through them using a thin cutting disc and remove the nuts with the sheared setscrews in situ.  Either new stainless nuts could be welded on, with minimal damage to the paintwork, or an expanding eccentric BB shell could be fitted, if one of a suitable diameter can be sourced.
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Tandem Talk / Re: Problem with eccentric
« Last post by Andyb1 on September 11, 2026, 08:58:52 PM »
Try drilling them out (after centre punching) with a LH drill.  Sometimes using a LH drill loosens bolts like this and they unwind.
Once out you need to see what thread pitch they are.
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