19ins? 😊

Hi Adrian!

Closest I can get to your vintage (which you've probably already seen in the "Stickies") is  2003 Club Tour description here...
http://web.archive.org/web/20030809010725/http://www.sjscycles.com/thorn/700solobrochure/clubtour.asp
...and...
A 2005 description here...
http://web.archive.org/web/20051109132750/http://www.sjscycles.com/thornpdf/ThornClubTourBroHiRes.pdf

Both these links are live for me as of today, but beware; Wayback Machine links sometimes go down for extended periods so if these appeal, be sure to download (print-to-PDF) a copy.

Basic geometry might well resemble yours, though components and fork configuration might well differ.

I'm guessing your older Club Tour has the traditional quill stem?

I'll keep my eyes open for anything more relevant to your needs and will post here if I find something.

Best, Dan.

At the time of buying/ writing, Bafang doesn’t give you that much in the way of instruction.

That's true of almost every Chinese manufacturer and was true nearly twenty years ago when I first fitted a front motor. It may be that they deal mainly with OEMs aka bike manufacturers, who don't need instruction. And, of course, Chinese mainland consumers have no consumer rights -- if they bollox the kit, if it is broken in transit, if it is a Monday morning hungover job with bits missing or broken, in all cases it is their fault, not the manufacturer's liability. It's one of the reasons I bought my kit from a British supplier, Asian of some denomination, who had made instructions of their own for the 8FUN strain of Bafang, which was refined in Switzerland (I kid you not) for the sensitivities of Western consumers -- still without the slightest thoughtvc`zas≥/ by Bafang of providing instructions. The instructions weren't up to the standard of those I once wrote for a Belgian manufacturer of electronic kits, but if you knew a little about electricity, you could busk your way through.

I have Andre Jute to thank for writing about the level of power/torque you need.

My pleasure. One of the good things about this forum is that so many members give credit where it is due.

Hurrah for you getting it working.

I never fitted a PAS to my wife’s hybrid - and like that she could start by just using the thumb throttle.  Which at times (upslope, in too high a gear) could be very useful.

I not only live up a steep hill, I live on a steep hill. Starting out for the countryside on this side of town is uphill, so a throttle is more than just useful, it is essential because the whole pedelec legal concept, designed by German lawmakers who were actively hostile to cycling (Germany lived by automobile exports until the Greens wrecked their country so that there is no electricity to keep the factories running), is counterproductive to real life cycling, where you need more assistance when starting up, not less, but the pedelec gives you less when starting up, and on a hill, and when you're heavily loaded, less and less as your legs get tired. Ugh!

This is what my loaded rig looks like (minus a 5 year old and some panniers).

And a photo of the complete bike before I dismantled it (most of the parts will be reused on another project).