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General Technical / Re: North road type bars and integrated brake/gear levers
« Last post by GamblerGORD649 on October 09, 2026, 08:54:46 PM »I'm 72 now and I also think butterfly bars are more awkward and useless than any drops. Especially levers are totally awfully placed.
NO grips sold now are any good, IMO. Both early model Ergons I bought turned into tar in short order. Even on a good day they feel like holding tires. Plus the ones without screwed caps are INSANELY tight. I cut them off my latest city bike. And they have grooves inlaid?? Try leaning on them more than half an hour. WTF.
I've had ZERO issues with using full 75d swept comfort chrome bars from 1970s roadster bikes. Mine are between 48 and 54 cm c/c. Contrary to popular LBS old wives tales, I have just as many grip positions as drops. My common position is right hand forward on or near the bend. The brake lever clamp has NO detriment to my hand. Going up hill I often have both hands forward. Yah I have the grip angled down to balance where weight goes. FAR less numbness than on stupid MTB bars with palms down pressure on the carpal tunnel. My shifters are out of the way on the top tube.
>>> I've been using perfectly smooth plastic/ vinyl? grips that have finger nubs, off two 1973 bikes. In 2021 I bought a 3rd bike and was switching between bikes. Then last year I finally figured out how to DIY make a pair. I melted bread bags one at a time around a 7/8" pipe. Added 9 or 10 layers then, pried it loose, cut to size and round the end. Added benefit is they are 1/4" longer and 1/32" thicker. Been using them near 3,000 miles already.
Two of my bars needed longer flats, so again I DIY made quill extensions from 7/8" solid round alu. Yah it takes all day without a drill press..
I've never used a helmet, drops or bar tape in my whole life.
NO grips sold now are any good, IMO. Both early model Ergons I bought turned into tar in short order. Even on a good day they feel like holding tires. Plus the ones without screwed caps are INSANELY tight. I cut them off my latest city bike. And they have grooves inlaid?? Try leaning on them more than half an hour. WTF.
I've had ZERO issues with using full 75d swept comfort chrome bars from 1970s roadster bikes. Mine are between 48 and 54 cm c/c. Contrary to popular LBS old wives tales, I have just as many grip positions as drops. My common position is right hand forward on or near the bend. The brake lever clamp has NO detriment to my hand. Going up hill I often have both hands forward. Yah I have the grip angled down to balance where weight goes. FAR less numbness than on stupid MTB bars with palms down pressure on the carpal tunnel. My shifters are out of the way on the top tube.
>>> I've been using perfectly smooth plastic/ vinyl? grips that have finger nubs, off two 1973 bikes. In 2021 I bought a 3rd bike and was switching between bikes. Then last year I finally figured out how to DIY make a pair. I melted bread bags one at a time around a 7/8" pipe. Added 9 or 10 layers then, pried it loose, cut to size and round the end. Added benefit is they are 1/4" longer and 1/32" thicker. Been using them near 3,000 miles already.
Two of my bars needed longer flats, so again I DIY made quill extensions from 7/8" solid round alu. Yah it takes all day without a drill press..
I've never used a helmet, drops or bar tape in my whole life.

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