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Bikes For Sale / Prototype Me'n'U2 for sale
« Last post by offthemenu on Today at 11:01:07 AM »
Me'n'U2 for sale - Looking for £1500.

I am new to this forum. Please forgive me for joining mainly as a way to  advertise a bike for sale, but I thought the members here might find it of some interest.

I have been the owner of the prototype Me'n'U2 for over 20 years, though sadly had little reason to use it for the last 15 or so, as my children grew up.  I kept it with thoughts of grandchildren but as that seems unlikely I really cannot hang on to this rather unique bike any longer.

I understand the bike was hand built by Robin Thorn and his team in Bridgewater.  They used Reynolds 531 for the frame and a mixture of Shimano components , mostly around the Deore LX standard.  When I bought the bike second-hand from SJS, the new price of the production versions was around £2k but Robin estimated he would have priced this one-off prototype bike around £3k new. 

It has drop handle bars up front, with bar-end shifters, friction 3-speed chain ring and indexed 8-speed derailleur.

V-brakes front and back with a cable multiplier used on the rear.  There is  drum brake operated by the pilot which I found extremely useful and makes long descents safe and controlled.

It's a lovely bike to ride and once you're over about 5-6 mph it feels like my own solo. Trying to make sharp turns at low speeds is a little weird at first as the long wheel base gives you (the pilot) a slight sense of going sideways, so needs a bit of practice.   The drop handle-bars suited me, being similar to my other bikes. It's quite wide but that makes things feel very safe. The bar-end shifted work well and easily changed when riding in lower position, though aren't really an issue to get to when on the hoods.  Having a choice of hand position was certainly a benefit to me.

We had holidays in UK, Netherlands and Denmark using this bike, often carrying camping gear, and I can truly say the bike is a joy.  It does feel heavier going up hills, but I would then turn on "turbo-power" with a little encouragement to the kids, usually involving the promise of ice-cream.

Other notable features are the special adaptations made for a range of rider sizes. My youngest was a fairly short 4yo when we first got the bike, and could only just reach handle bars and peddles.   Robin was a true star and supplied us with additional cranks, so this bike will come with both double and triple drilled options to suit a wide range of requirements.

Robin also made a unique (well, I've not seen another) false seat post. This bracket bolts onto the top bar and allows you to place the standard handle-bar parts closer to the rear child (or the middle if that was necessary for you). This brings the handle bar back to a comfortable (safe) reach.

There two sets of peddles for the rear, which I selected for their foot sizes rather than anything else. A good fitting peddle, with secure toe-straps are essential as they really equate to the seatbelts in a car.  I used to swap my solo bike peddles over whenever we used the Me'n'U2, so these are not part of the offer.

There is a rear pannier rack (photographed on its own as I forgot to reattach when I took the main set of photos). There are braze-on's for a front rack , but the low- rider rack I used is not included.

Although the components are perhaps from a  earlier age, they work well and are all in pretty good condition. The paint work is still good, and to my eyes a lovely deep green colour.  There are a couple of small scratches here and there, none in and prominent locations and you should not equate the age of the bike to any notion of how worn it might be. It has been looked after.  I can detail all defects to anyone interested in taking this further.

The bike is located in Scotland, just outside Edinburgh. However, I occasionally have reason to drive to Bristol and would be willing to come to some arrangement find a suitable meeting spot with you.  This would require a fairly firm commitment to buy and is not aimed about offering trial demonstrations.

PS -struggling to attach photos - will add more when I learn how!
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Wheels, Tyres and Brakes / Re: Alternative to Andra 30 rims
« Last post by mickeg on Today at 11:00:58 AM »
When I mentioned the Sapim Polyax nipples in my previous post, my point is that I do not know how important using Rohloff drilling is when you use Polyax nipples because the nipples are supposed to accommodate some angle mis-alignment. because of the design of the nipple.
https://sapim.eu/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Polyax.png

When I ordered my Nomad Mk II frame and fork, the rims were shipped in the same box.  One rim had a tag with a hand written note that said Rohloff.  Otherwise I could not tell the difference between the two rims.

Thus, the people at SJS are likely much better to ask about rims with Rohloff angle drilling than I am.
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Wheels, Tyres and Brakes / Re: Alternative to Andra 30 rims
« Last post by martinf on Today at 08:13:13 AM »
I still have the original Andra 30 rims on my Raven Tour, which I use for load carrying and cycle-camping They have the CSS coating so they haven't worn much. If I ever need to replace them I will probably go for something wider, because I use 50 mm tyres. I have wider rims on my utility bike and most of the other 26" bikes I have built up, Ryde Andra 40 or similar.

I had lighter Mavic 717 rims on my previous tourer, again with 50 mm tyres. I did damage the rear rim on a heavily laden tour (all up weight 112-123 kg depending on the amount of food and water I carried), when I hit a pothole at about 50-60 km/h on a mountain descent. I replaced it with a wider Weinmann Alesa rim when I got home. The front rim lasted for 10,500 kms before it wore out and I replaced it with another Mavic 717.

When I got my Raven Sport Tour frameset in 2016 I fitted the Mavic 717 front wheel off my old tourer. Mavic 717 wasn't easy to find in 26", so for the rear wheel I got a DT Swiss 535 rim, which seems similar. I have 42 mm tyres on this bike, and use it for day rides with just a saddlebag, very occasionally for lightweight touring with rear panniers only. DT Swiss 535 rims are still available in 26" and 32/36H drillings, at least from German web shops, there is even a special reinforced version for E-bikes but I don't know if the latter is available in 32H.

Andra 30 and Andra 40 can/could be had with the drillings for Rohloff. This isn't the case for DT Swiss 535 rims, but it hasn't been a problem so far on my Raven Sport Tour. 
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Wheels, Tyres and Brakes / Re: Alternative to Andra 30 rims
« Last post by Andyb1 on Today at 07:37:23 AM »
Thanks for the replies - I will fit the Rohloff hub rings and look at the suggested rims.

I do not know how significant it is but the Andra 30 rims are drilled at the correct spoke angle for the Rohloff hub, perhaps more important on a 26 inch wheel than a larger one?


Edited to add:
SJS have both Halo and Andra 30 rims in stock at the same price.
Weights: 735g for the Andra and 475g for the Halo, the Halo having 2mm thick braking surfaces while those on the Andra are 3mm.  Internal widths are 19mm for the Andra / 20mm for the Halo, so OK for the tyre widths I want to use.
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Thorn General / Re: Bike identification
« Last post by deejayen on May 16, 2026, 11:09:36 PM »
Thanks very much, Tony - that's great!
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Wheels, Tyres and Brakes / Re: Alternative to Andra 30 rims
« Last post by mickeg on May 16, 2026, 10:03:52 PM »
I assume you mean inner width of about 22mm.

When I built up my Sherpa, I anticipated using tires between 40mm and 50mm width.  Using this chart, it told me that I wanted a rim with an inner width of 21 to 23 mm.  The rims I got are no longer made, so I am not going to suggest them. 

I think you should put the flange rings on.  They weigh almost nothing, and their cost is minimal compared to the cost of a hub and  and the inconvenience if you had a flange problem later.  I was really surprised how light the rings were when I added them.

Andra 30 inner width is 19 and the Andra 40 is 25.  I looked at this website, checking the box for rim brakes and 20-23 internal width gave a choice of the Zac 421.
https://www.ryde.nl/rims/

Here:
https://www.ryde.nl/zac-421/

That is an eyeleted rim, I do not know if the spoke holes are drilled at the right angle for a Rohloff or not.  If Sapim Polyax nipples are used, I do not know if that matters.

Or, look at other brands.  Since I do not buy rims in the UK, I don't know what is commonly sold there.
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Wheels, Tyres and Brakes / Re: Alternative to Andra 30 rims
« Last post by PH on May 16, 2026, 08:39:42 PM »
Long time since I've had 26" wheels, but the Halo White Line Classic is my go to in 700c for rim brake touring and I'm a good bit heavier than you.  The 26" size is I think around 500g, available silver, black/silver and black/black, the latter has a black brake track but is still sold as a rim brake rim, not sure how that works. 
I broke two flanges in ten years, then none in the fifteen years since, one of my hubs is without rings, the others have had rings from new. I suspect either the hubs or the wheel-building have improved, though it may just be luck. I doubt you'll notice the weight of the rings on the hub, it's not like weight on the rim.  They might get you out of trouble one day, or you might never need them.  Thorn's ex workshop manager advised not to fit them unless rebuilding the wheel anyway, but to do so if/when I was.
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Thorn General / Re: Bike identification
« Last post by UKTony on May 16, 2026, 08:38:28 PM »
Alternatively, here’s a screen shot of just the Sport Tour matrix, maybe too blurred..
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Thorn General / Re: Bike identification
« Last post by UKTony on May 16, 2026, 08:13:38 PM »
Hope the attached pdf is readable, size matrix for Raven Tour and Sport Tour,
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Wheels, Tyres and Brakes / Alternative to Andra 30 rims
« Last post by Andyb1 on May 16, 2026, 07:48:58 PM »
My 32 spoke 26 inch Raven rear rim is wearing and I will need to replace it soon.   SJS are local and will do the work and are suggesting an Andra 30 rim.  I am just wondering what else is available?  The all up weight of the bike is 110kg max with me, touring gear, food and water so not too much load and I use tyres between 1.75” and 2.0” run at fairly low pressures……..so a rim of around 22mm width seems about right.
I am sure an Andra 30 rim would do the job fine but they seem a bit heavy at 750g.

With the wheel rebuild I was also going to fit the rohloff hub rings, but at 110kg max I do not know if they are really required?  I would really like to keep the wheel weight down.

Thanks
AndyB1
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