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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Stem bolt size question
« Last post by mickeg on Today at 03:32:12 PM »
Ian, a time-honored way to remove rounded socket screws is to pound in the next larger size Torx bit. The damaged screw usually twist out easily with this method.

Best, Dan.

I have never heard of that.  That is BRILLIANT.
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Stem bolt size question
« Last post by mickeg on Today at 03:30:48 PM »
Bolt thread size or wrench size?

Usually, but not always the stem bolts that tighten onto the steerer tube are a 5mm wrench size, thread size 6mm.  But there may be exceptions out there.

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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Stem bolt size question
« Last post by Danneaux on Today at 03:29:31 PM »
Ian, a time-honored way to remove rounded socket screws is to pound in the next larger size Torx bit. The damaged screw usually twist out easily with this method.

Best, Dan.
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Stem bolt size question
« Last post by UKTony on Today at 03:05:34 PM »
The bolts on my Deda Zero stem are M5 by 16mm. AK is 4mm. I think the bolt heads, albeit tapered,  would be classed as socket head. Spare matching bolts for various Deda stems are available eg from Condor Cycles.
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Non-Thorn Related / Stem bolt size question
« Last post by in4 on Today at 12:56:08 PM »
Anyone know what size bolt this is? It’s on my Deda stem and it’s  ’rounded off’ probably because I used the wrong size hex/allen key. I think it’s an M5. I’m not sure what the correct description is for the top of the bolt. Tapered crown perhaps?
TIA
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by in4 on Today at 10:28:55 AM »
Brilliant, Andre. Have you thought of writing as a career!?  🤣
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by jul on Today at 10:20:48 AM »
Brillant Andre   8)
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by Andre Jute on Today at 07:47:16 AM »
I'm curious to know if a used Brooks saddle have to be replaced by a new one..

If yes, how can we know ?

There's a tensioning bolt under the nose of the Brooks saddle. You take a one-eighth turn on it when the saddle starts looking hollow (the proper English is swaybacked -- don't ask me why: English isn't my first language, by half a dozen or so, so I would have said that if we have to have a horsey metaphor it should be lordosis, an equine spine symptom). In your case maybe a quarter-turn. When you've used up all the thread on adjustment bolt, you take the bolt to a welder and ask him to weld on a longer piece of threaded rod, same diameter and thread count per inch. If you're worried about the appearance of your clearly neglected saddle, buy some neat foot oil from your local saddlery (more £$%^&* horses), pour the contents of the can into a baking dish or a bowl large enough to take the saddle and soak first the top and then bottom in the neat foot oil, 10-20 minutes per side. You do that only once, then a thin layer of Proofide once a year only on top. After the short soak in neat foot oil lay the saddle aside for a few days to dry out a bit, then polish only the top with a soft cloth. Tension with your longer bolt and you're good to go for several more years.

A Brooks saddle is like a Catholic wife, you marry it for life, no divorce.
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by jul on Today at 07:37:13 AM »
Good th know all this information ..

If the C17 fit me, the big advantage it is not afraid of humidity..

But if i have to buy a new B17, it will be with brass rivet ! Mine are rusty it is not  pretty
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by Moronic on Today at 06:35:42 AM »
I'm curious to know if a used Brooks saddle have to be replaced by a new one..

If yes, how can we know ?






Thanks in advance

You'll know when the one you have gets uncomfortable.

Except it's likely a boiled-frog thing. It might be hard to remember how much more comfortable the saddle was when in better repair.

When I bought my Mercury, I fitted an ancient Brooks Professional that I had acquired from a bike purchased used 40 years earlier. I'd revived it with a soak in neatsfoot oil and had used it happily enough on several multi-day tours. I had preferred it to various plastic saddles I'd tried.

With the Mercury purchase I was in the saddle much more frequently and for longer periods. I started to wonder whether a new B17 might be better. Took me a while to male the jump because I'd heard the horror stories about the discomfort of a new Brooks and the need to accommodate that for a thousand miles or more while it broke in. If it broke in.

Bit the bullet and on went a standard B17. First ride it proved exactly as comfortable as the ancient Professional it replaced, and hurt in just the same places.

It's now been under me for a couple of thousand miles (guesswork as I don't use a cyclometer) and it's fabulous. Way better than the old one, which is the point of this anecdote.

It's a real pleasure setting off on a ride and feeling the comfort of the broken-in Brooks underneath me. For the next couple of hours I don't even think about it. At that point if I've not been off the bike or much out of the saddle I may want to stand on the pedals for a bit of relief. I'll only need a few seconds.
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