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Thorn General / Re: What do people think of titanium bike parts?
« Last post by martinf on Today at 07:56:06 AM »
The weight saving for titanium over steel for components like bicycle frames was never as significant as a comparison of their relative densities would seem to suggest, because of its lower Young’s Modulus, larger tubes with thicker walls are needed. These days even that small weight advantage has been to some extent negated by the widespread use of carbon fibre, which in most cases is both lighter and cheaper.

My preferred material for frames, forks and luggage carriers is steel. But for a Brompton folder, getting a lightweight steel frame and forks custom-made would cost more than the same parts in titanium, which are available as factory-produced parts. I don't like aluminium alloy forks and frames, because they don't have the "springiness" of steel and titanium, and aluminium has a different failure mode than steel and titanium.

Aluminium alloy is good for some things, especially rims used with traditional rim brakes, where it works much better than steel. In my experience the sidewalls on aluminium rims generally wear out before there are any metal fatigue issues.

I don't have any carbon fibre parts. This material isn't suitable for my idea of a touring or utility bike, where the weight doesn't matter much for me. I don't want carbon fibre on a folder because I don't trust it to resist the lateral shocks that occur sometimes when carrying the Brompton on public transport. I am sure it is OK for a lightweight road bike that is looked after carefully and replaced fairly often, but I saw lots of broken carbon fibre parts at my local bikeshop before it closed a few years ago. And I once saw a carbon-fibre racing bike literally shatter when the rider touched a moving car.

It’s attraction for me lies in its anti-corrosion properties; titanium frames retain their good looks and require no costly repainting, a property also shared by martensitic stainless steels.

The anti-corrosion properties of titanium don't really matter to me for frames, forks and luggage carriers. I regularly touch up the paint on my steel-framed bicycles and steel luggage carriers, and repaint them completely (using a paintbrush) if I reckon this is needed (not very often). So my bikes don't look so good as when they were new, which I take as a plus as it reduces their appeal to thieves. I still have my 1977 steel-frame lightweight tourer, on which the Reynolds 531 steel frame and forks are the only original parts left.
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Thorn General / Re: What do people think of titanium bike parts?
« Last post by B cereus on November 11, 2026, 09:59:32 PM »
The weight saving for titanium over steel for components like bicycle frames was never as significant as a comparison of their relative densities would seem to suggest, because of its lower Young’s Modulus, larger tubes with thicker walls are needed. These days even that small weight advantage has been to some extent negated by the widespread use of carbon fibre, which in most cases is both lighter and cheaper. It’s attraction for me lies in its anti-corrosion properties; titanium frames retain their good looks and require no costly repainting, a property also shared by martensitic stainless steels.
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Thorn General / Re: What do people think of titanium bike parts?
« Last post by martinf on November 11, 2026, 04:54:03 PM »
My view - not really relevant for the large-wheel bikes I use for touring or utility rides.

But I do have a fair number of titanium parts on my "light" Brompton. The main idea here is to reduce the weight of the folded bike and make it easier to carry.

Titanium parts :
- Fork
- Rear triangle
- Handlebar
- Lower section of my telescopic seat post
- Mudguard stays
- Square taper bottom bracket axle
- Saddle rails (on a reasonably light synthetic saddle, not the minimalist type used by racers)

The fork is a bit more comfortable than the standard steel fork, as is the handlebar. The synthetic saddle is much less comfortable than the Brooks B17 or Flyer saddles that I use on most of my other bikes, but it is acceptable for the relatively short distances I ride when I use this Brompton.

These titanium parts save a bit more than 1 kg over the standard parts. I wouldn't bother about saving 1 kg on most of my bikes, it doesn't make a significant difference to me when riding.

But I really notice 1 kg less when carrying the folded Brompton.
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Thorn General / Re: What do people think of titanium bike parts?
« Last post by Andyb1 on November 11, 2026, 03:19:03 PM »
Square taper BB always seem heavy - a Titanium square taper BB with replaceable bearings?
A similar weight to BB with external bearings but much more reliable?
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Thorn General / Re: What do people think of titanium bike parts?
« Last post by mickeg on November 11, 2026, 12:22:30 PM »
Components?  I see no great advantage for components that could otherwise be made of aluminum or stainless steel.

That said, I have always wanted a titanium bike.  Did I need it?  No.  But it was some bling that I always wanted.  I got lucky, got a great deal on a titanium touring frame made by Lynskey.  Built it up in 2017.  I really like the bike.  But knocking a kg or two off of the weight of a touring bike that otherwise could be made from steel is not really cost effective for the higher cost.  I would not have paid full price for the frame I got.

Other people that I have met that had titanium frames really liked them, but the only thing I can think of where titanium continues to be used is for frames. 

And only a few frame makers actually build up titanium forks to go with their frames.  I do not know why titanium forks or handlebars are extraordinarily rare.

I think Tubus makes a rack from titanium that costs a LOT, but in my opinion it does not have any great advantage over steel.

What do you have in mind?
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Thorn General / Re: What do people think of titanium bike parts?
« Last post by Andyb1 on November 11, 2026, 09:32:08 AM »
You may get very different replies depending if people are thinking about fast day rides on an effectively empty bike or touring with all the variables of equipment that can cover.
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Thorn General / What do people think of titanium bike parts?
« Last post by Korn on November 11, 2026, 03:05:23 AM »
Hi all, 

I’m curious what people here think about titanium as a material for bike parts. Is it really the best option, or is stainless steel good enough for most people? I’ve seen quite a few people say stainless does the job just fine, so I’m wondering when titanium actually makes sense. 

I’m also interested in how much weight saving matters to different riders, and what people usually change first when they want to lighten a bike. 

I work with bicycle components, but I’m not promoting anything here — just interested in hearing what riders think.

Cheers
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General Technical / Re: Drop Bars on a "Long" Frame?
« Last post by mickeg on November 09, 2026, 01:07:35 PM »
If you change bars, make sure that the straight part where the shifters, brake levers, grip, and any bar ends you add have a long enough straight section to hold all this hardware. 

I bought a used bike years ago that needed new grips from too much weathering and UV exposure, I was surprised that the grips were just a hair too long for all that hardware to fit on the straight section on each side.

Decades ago I put some different bars on one of my Triumph motorcycles.  Bought a used Norton bar to put on.  It was wider than I wanted, but fortunately it had plenty of extra straight section for me to install all the hardware, I think I cut an inch and a half off each side, but that was all that I could cut.
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by Andyb1 on November 09, 2026, 01:04:22 PM »
Alloy seat posts are usually anodised, and that should help stop corrosion just as well as paint.   But it obviously does not!
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by mickeg on November 09, 2026, 12:55:04 PM »
I am careful to grease the two aluminum seatposts that I have in steel frames where the seatposts are not painted.  But the painted ones are immune to the dissimilar metal corrosion. 

I sometimes grease the painted ones to reduce the amount of water that gets into the frame from rain, but otherwise do not worry much about the painted ones.

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