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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Hypnic Jerks
« Last post by Andre Jute on Today at 12:14:37 AM »I gave up worrying about health effects when I reached thirty. I designed and printed a card to all the doctors who'd said I wouldn't make thirty. Fifty years later I've forgotten when the hypnic jerks started, but I go straight back to sleep -- see below about my method of ensuring that I go back to sleep almost immediately. I don't know if hypnic jerks are linked to coffee or tea, but I drink a four-cup pot of tea with half a lemon or lime plus honey every day, and the same of mokka, a 3:1 mixture of cocoa and one heaped spoon of whatever instant coffee my wife buys at the supermarket.
For all I know the hypnic jerks may just be a result of angling your body horizontally when you go to sleep, rather than vertically. Or, perhaps more likely, they may be caused by hormones secreted in your brain to keep you sane by reminding you dreams are not real: dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins are so much the usual suspects of happiness that they are shorthanded as DOSE. Serotonin in particular has a wide variety of functions in the body as well as the brain, and both a shortage or an excess of serotonin in the body can produce undesirable effects.
One could speculate that vomiting, about which serotonin is known to send messages to the nerve-ends, is a convulsive effect, rather similar to hypnic jerks, but don't take that as gospel as I haven't kept up with the literature.
I was prescribed amitriptyline for migraines, which are caused by damage to a mandibular nerve suffered during heart surgery when the surgeons had force my mouth open in a hurry. It's a medicine without a well-defined therapeutic map but for me it has always worked for whatever it was prescribed. The point of telling you all this is that, as a side effect of trying to do something about migraines, amitriptyline seems to keep the hypnic jerks at bay.
Or it may just be that my entirely unplanned diet of what I like to eat (chicken, oily fish and shellfish, cheese, avocado, fruit, yoghurt, red meat generally only once a week, mineral supplements to replace sunlight, rough brown rye bread, pasta, salami for a controlled intake of fat) works well to keep the DOSE well-balanced.
Medicine is a lottery...
But I know this stuff because I was taught it. I don't actually worry about the now rare (since I started taking amitriptyline) hypnic jerks, as I think it is far more likely a transient ischemic attack will get me, and I've never heard of a case where someone actually died of a hypnic jerk, which by definition is very brief. Not that I worry about TIA's either, which could start something not quite so "transient". Que sera sera.
If you have trouble going to sleep again after a hypnic jerk, it helps to have something else pre-chosen to focus your mind at the same time as you blank it off to the disturbance. You could mentally calculate the ratios in the Rohloff hub gearbox, for instance, or how many actually meaningful half steps you could get by inserting only one further chainring to the crankset. I try to improve the stress calculations in the chasses of cars I designed and (over-)built, without pencil and paper a near-impossible task never completed because I fall asleep almost immediately I flash up that particular spreadsheet in my mind's eye.
One final point: Your body's state isn't only an output of DOSE and lesser helper chemicals in your body and brain, your mood is also an input to the other regulators. If you make a point of being happy and carefree, the hypnic jerks might just feel so unwelcome, they jerk themselves up, leave you behind, and invade someone else's life.
For all I know the hypnic jerks may just be a result of angling your body horizontally when you go to sleep, rather than vertically. Or, perhaps more likely, they may be caused by hormones secreted in your brain to keep you sane by reminding you dreams are not real: dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins are so much the usual suspects of happiness that they are shorthanded as DOSE. Serotonin in particular has a wide variety of functions in the body as well as the brain, and both a shortage or an excess of serotonin in the body can produce undesirable effects.
One could speculate that vomiting, about which serotonin is known to send messages to the nerve-ends, is a convulsive effect, rather similar to hypnic jerks, but don't take that as gospel as I haven't kept up with the literature.
I was prescribed amitriptyline for migraines, which are caused by damage to a mandibular nerve suffered during heart surgery when the surgeons had force my mouth open in a hurry. It's a medicine without a well-defined therapeutic map but for me it has always worked for whatever it was prescribed. The point of telling you all this is that, as a side effect of trying to do something about migraines, amitriptyline seems to keep the hypnic jerks at bay.
Or it may just be that my entirely unplanned diet of what I like to eat (chicken, oily fish and shellfish, cheese, avocado, fruit, yoghurt, red meat generally only once a week, mineral supplements to replace sunlight, rough brown rye bread, pasta, salami for a controlled intake of fat) works well to keep the DOSE well-balanced.
Medicine is a lottery...
But I know this stuff because I was taught it. I don't actually worry about the now rare (since I started taking amitriptyline) hypnic jerks, as I think it is far more likely a transient ischemic attack will get me, and I've never heard of a case where someone actually died of a hypnic jerk, which by definition is very brief. Not that I worry about TIA's either, which could start something not quite so "transient". Que sera sera.
If you have trouble going to sleep again after a hypnic jerk, it helps to have something else pre-chosen to focus your mind at the same time as you blank it off to the disturbance. You could mentally calculate the ratios in the Rohloff hub gearbox, for instance, or how many actually meaningful half steps you could get by inserting only one further chainring to the crankset. I try to improve the stress calculations in the chasses of cars I designed and (over-)built, without pencil and paper a near-impossible task never completed because I fall asleep almost immediately I flash up that particular spreadsheet in my mind's eye.
One final point: Your body's state isn't only an output of DOSE and lesser helper chemicals in your body and brain, your mood is also an input to the other regulators. If you make a point of being happy and carefree, the hypnic jerks might just feel so unwelcome, they jerk themselves up, leave you behind, and invade someone else's life.

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