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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by Danneaux on Today at 02:41:22 PM »
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Yesbut...
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True enough, but I loved me that honey color! ;D The one in question is a custom job once offered by Rivendell Cycle Works back in the day, made with (good) chrome rails, large hammered rivets, and the extra-thick leather I prefer for sustained long-distance riding.

It darkened a little with (red) Proofide, but still stayed on the lighter side.

Photos show how much more robust and expedition-oriented my 2012 Nomad Mk2 is than a more traditional tourer like my 1980 Centurion ProTour.

Last photo shows a tensionable sling saddle I intend for a drasienne (balance bike with Fred Flintstone drive) project I'm doing. A couple years ago, I was able to paddle (not pedal) for 30 miles on a less ideal saddle for the purpose, now thinking I could do more with the sling...no leather treatment needed! ;D
See... https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draisienne

Best, Dan (...who loves bikes in all forms; saddles, more specifically)
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by Andre Jute on Today at 07:24:17 AM »
I have found Sno-Seal to be a valuable adjunct for use on my black saddles. I have not used it on my one Honey Brown model as I don't want it to darken as much as I know it would with Sno-Seal.

Yesbut yesbut yesbut if you put some wax of whatever provenance on your Honey Brooks, she'll get a deeper tan with every application, and when you stop you'll have a custom brown saddle that nobody else has.
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There was once among the British working classes an equivalent to the American Dream. It wasn't about being rich, necessarily, as much as doing something right for the sake of doing it right, passionately. Imagine some chap with a small shop today sponsoring a rider in the Tour de France. It beggars belief.

Does anybody else look at that frame in his hand and consider the
wheelbase a bit short? Or were racing bikes that short c1950?

The photos in the version you found are better. Thanks, Dan.
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by Danneaux on Today at 02:09:22 AM »
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Americans have a similar leather wax with a good reputation from vintage times forward, the name of which now escapes me.

Andre, John, there is another option I have used to waterproof leather for 55 years: Sno-Seal.

The tin promises leather protection from rain, snow, salt, sun; the original beeswax waterproofing. Mile warmth helpt it absorb, excess is buffed off with a clean, soft cloth. Instructions say, "Beeswax waterproofing lubricates leather and protects against dryiomg and deterioriation far longer than greases, oils, and animal fats. Sno-Seal is a natural wax and, unlike other products, will never weaken, decay, or break down leather or stitchings and seams. Caution: Will somewhat darken leather; spot test if appearance is important". I have found Sno-Seal to be a valuable adjunct for use on my black saddles. I have not used it on my one Honey Brown model as I don't want it to darken as much as I know it would with Sno-Seal.

See...
https://atsko.com/product/sno-seal-wax-8-oz-jar/
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sno+seal&channelId=520&clpRedir=Y&plpRedirect=mhFallback

Available from Amazon Canada as well... https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=Sno-Seal&crid=F5Z4IT6ASXZH&sprefix=sno-sea%2Caps%2C363&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 I think it is too pricey due to the added tariffs and would not buy it on principle if I lived outside my borders.

I always treat my Brooks leather saddles first with Proofide (now white cream, I preferred the older red formula that smelled much stronger), then after some use, Sno-Seal for regular winter riding. I lay on a thin coat of Sno-Seal to guard against water drops in between my dismounts and slapping on the saddle cover (I don't ride on the cover per Brooks' caution, as Andre notes). I have found the Sno-Seal polishes out to a high gloss under my cycling shorts, then thins out and needs reapplication in time. It lasts longer in winter when I ride less often. I use it primarily on the Brooks B.17 fitted to my commuter Fixie. I don't use it in summer when I am likely to produce a lot more sweat and a "waterproofed" saddle has much less appeal.

Best, Dan.
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by Andre Jute on October 23, 2026, 11:43:16 PM »
Obenauf's, definitely. Widely recommended by American cyclists of the Sheldon Brown vintage, but not available this side of the Atlantic. Thanks, John.

Mike, on this forum some years ago, I expressed some mild disappointment that a Brooks waxed canvas seat cover wore rather fast when I sat upon it in the rain, and was told one isn't supposed to sit on it. I bought a plastic shower cap instead and sat on that when cycling in the rain.
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General Technical / Re: Brooks saddle
« Last post by John Saxby on October 23, 2026, 09:25:37 PM »
Andre, WRT your comment above, Americans have a similar leather wax with a good reputation from vintage times forward, the name of which now escapes me:

You may be thinking of Obenauf's (a company based in Idaho), which makes Leather Oil and a paste. They advertise their products for forestry workers and firefighters.  I used their products for leathers and boots when I was riding motorcycles.  I still have a couple of bottles of Leather Oil, which I've used on my Brooks B17 (now 15 years old) -- an annual end-of-season wipe with a Leather-Oily-rag seems to work a treat.  (Mind you, anytime I'm riding in wet weather, I use a cover for my saddle.)

'Cos of The Situation, I won't be buying any more any time soon, but Mike, you may find it useful.
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Non-Thorn Related / Jim Wilson, War Hero & Legendary Bike and Frame Builder
« Last post by Andre Jute on October 23, 2026, 01:13:29 AM »
Just now appearing on a literary group I run, notice of a biography of war hero and legendary bike builder Jim Wilson in the Sheffield Star:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/indieauthorsinternational/permalink/29028059490166265/
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"He Hath Courage"  World War 2 Hero and Legendary Sheffield bike and frame builder who 'lived the life of 10 men'

Check out the photo of him wearing a military woolly pully and a tie while working on a frame, VOSC (Very Old School Craftsman).

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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Mounting a Carradice Camper Longflap on a rear rack.
« Last post by mickeg on October 20, 2026, 04:19:40 PM »
You can buy inexpensive front racks designed to mount on the canti brake posts for small items.  I put one on my Sherpa, photo attached is years old.

I have not tried this myself, but someone on a different forum mentioned this possibility several years ago.  There is no reason that you can't use the same type of rack on back if you have canti brake posts to mount the rack.  That can keep your saddlebag off of the rear tire.
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Non-Thorn Related / Re: Mounting a Carradice Camper Longflap on a rear rack.
« Last post by in4 on October 20, 2026, 12:35:18 PM »
We're a broad and welcoming parish Andre, post as your inspiration takes you.  :)
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