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General Technical / Re: Drop Bars on a "Long" Frame?
« Last post by mickeg on Today at 01:07:35 PM »
If you change bars, make sure that the straight part where the shifters, brake levers, grip, and any bar ends you add have a long enough straight section to hold all this hardware. 

I bought a used bike years ago that needed new grips from too much weathering and UV exposure, I was surprised that the grips were just a hair too long for all that hardware to fit on the straight section on each side.

Decades ago I put some different bars on one of my Triumph motorcycles.  Bought a used Norton bar to put on.  It was wider than I wanted, but fortunately it had plenty of extra straight section for me to install all the hardware, I think I cut an inch and a half off each side, but that was all that I could cut.
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by Andyb1 on Today at 01:04:22 PM »
Alloy seat posts are usually anodised, and that should help stop corrosion just as well as paint.   But it obviously does not!
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by mickeg on Today at 12:55:04 PM »
I am careful to grease the two aluminum seatposts that I have in steel frames where the seatposts are not painted.  But the painted ones are immune to the dissimilar metal corrosion. 

I sometimes grease the painted ones to reduce the amount of water that gets into the frame from rain, but otherwise do not worry much about the painted ones.

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General Technical / Re: Drop Bars on a "Long" Frame?
« Last post by Andyb1 on Today at 08:16:24 AM »
Often MTB style bars can be cut shorter and I personally find that gives me a better, narrower, position for road use.   One thing to watch out for, a lot of modern MTB bars are for ‘oversized’ clamps.

As PH has said, there are lots of different shapes of handlebar.   The MTB ones I use are 1990s style, almost straight.  The straight bar position can be made to be very similar to using the top of drop bars and if short bar ends are used they can give a position very similar to being on the hoods.  On one bike I use Ergon GP2 grips which have a built in bar end, on another cheapo ebay ergonomic grips and shortened alloy MTB bar ends.

Ergon grips can be bought with a shorter RH grip to accommodate the rohloff shifter, but I guess on a Sherpa you have derailleurs?
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General Technical / Re: Drop Bars on a "Long" Frame?
« Last post by Binky on November 08, 2026, 09:49:06 PM »
Thanks for all the replies so far. Lots to take in and think about.

My plan of action is to get a bike fit with the bike as it is, see how I get on with it but also talk to the fitter about what options I have. Another possibility, and one that's a fairly simple swap, is to try a more conventionally shaped mountain bike bar with bar ends which will give me a couple of hand position options.
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by Binky on November 08, 2026, 09:38:16 PM »
As always, Sheldon (R.I.P) has the answers:
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/stuck-seatposts.html

I fought a 3 week long battle with a secondhand Fuji Track frame and seatpost a few years ago, I tried WD40, Plus-Gas, gearbox fluid and acetone mix, clamping the seatpost in a bench vice and turning the frame, then tried dissolving the seatpost with caustic soda (aluminium post in a steel frame) with no joy. Eventually I bolted 2 hacksaw blades together, cut the top of the post off and after several slow and careful sessions managed to cut the post into 4 strips from the inside, grip them with mole-grips and twist/pull them out. I now have the remains mounted on a plaque in my garage to remind me that greasing seatposts is part of regular maintenance.

You mention trying to get more leverage but not what leverage tricks you've tried yet. If you have an old scrap saddle try putting this on the post, you can then hit it, twist it, put it in a vice etc without worrying about damaging your good saddle.

Personally if I couldn't shift a seatpost after a few days soaking and some leverage, and the frame was a nice one that I didn't want to risk damaging, then I would now send the frame off to a specialist. There are companies out there with a pulling machine that will safely remove it for £80.
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by JohnR on November 08, 2026, 08:40:54 PM »
The coefficient of thermal expansion of aluminium (the likely seat post material) is about double that of steel (the frame) https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html. I wonder if some freeze spray eg https://www.amazon.co.uk/MOTIP-Freezer-Spray-500-ml/dp/B015XMVM7E on the seat post might encourage it to shrink and break the bond or temporarily increase of chance of penetrating fluid getting between the two metals.
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by mickeg on November 08, 2026, 05:37:43 PM »
As B Cereus noted, a hair dryer can be a good source of heat.

I would certainly trust using it for several minutes at a time, but not for extended time.

A hair dryer is designed to be used for a few minutes at a time.  Leaving a hair dryer on for much longer could damage the hair dryer.  I set a hair dryer on something to provide a continuous steady source of low level heat at a low setting, after about 10 or 15 minutes the hair dryer quit running, and never ran again.

I used a hair dryer to warm up my frame bottom bracket shell before I used significant force to remove a stuck bottom bracket that I wanted to remove from the frame.  I can't say if the heat helped or not, but it certainly did not hurt.
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General Technical / Re: Removing a stuck seat tube
« Last post by B cereus on November 08, 2026, 01:17:27 PM »
It's worth pursuing non destructive methods before resorting to more drastic action. Don't be afraid to use heat.

An effective technique is gentle heat in combination with a good penetrating oil like Plus Gas. The aim should be to heat the seat post to a temperature around the boiling point of water. This will drive off the water of crystallization from the corrosion products that are bonding the seat post to the seat tube, and should loosen the bond.

A hair dryer, or hot air gun used very carefully, should suffice. Use alternate cycles of penetrating fluid and heating. A sign that you're winning is seeing steam being driven off during the heating cycles.
 
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General Technical / Re: Drop Bars on a "Long" Frame?
« Last post by PH on November 08, 2026, 12:43:21 PM »
There is a lot to unpick.  But Thorn's longer frames also have a different head tube angle and fork rake. These things effect the steering whatever handlebars you put on. And of course head tube angle will effect the virtual top tube length with length of steerer.  Then there's weight distribution, you could have any bar and the same riding position, but those choosing drop bars might also choose a more sporty position, which puts more weight forward.  That won't physically effect the steering geometry, but it will give the bike a different feel (No, I'm not going to define that!) I've swapped a few bikes between bar styles, sometimes it's taken a bit of trial and error, only one time I've given up before getting it right. 
How much any of it matters is subjective. My experience generally is that if I get the saddle to pedals relationship spot on, the handlebars are less important, somewhere to rest my hands in a comfortable position. For myself, that's quite a range, others may require it to be precise. Plenty of manufacturers supply the same frame with flat and drop bars, many riders accept this without any thought and find it just works. Then there's the variations between bars, there is no standard Flat bar and Drop bar, there's probably as much variation between them as within.  There is no aerodynamic advantage to either, you don't see drop bars used in time trials, in the drops is usually too wide to be the best aerodynamically. People like the bars they're used to, or that they like the look of, or that their mates/group ride... I often see riders that I think would be better off on a different bike, but it's none of my business.  I do have to bite my lip when I see someone with aerodynamic gear, sitting up in the wind, when bending their elbows is free and far more effective.
For the OP, there is no short cut, there's no reason it can't work, but no guarantee you'll like it, you have to take what you know about your riding, have an informed guess at what might work, suck it and see.
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