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Technical => General Technical => Topic started by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on October 26, 2008, 08:49:12 pm

Title: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on October 26, 2008, 08:49:12 pm
Hi, Just thought I would start a post with some of our latest additions to the online store which are a bit intresting

1. Drop bar ends for flat bars!

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Origin8-Origin8-Pro-pulsion-road-ends-drop-bar-bar-ends-black-18606.htm

(http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/18606pro_l.jpg)

2. Handy chain made of 1/2 links for SS or hub gear use!

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/lkid/82/product-Gusset-Gusset-Slink-Chain-3-32-1-2-x-3-32-100L-Slotted-Cranked-Links-(made-entirely-of-half-links)-18265.htm

(http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/18265gusset_l.jpg)

3. Proper brake levers for drop bars and V brakes!!!

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Tektro-Tektro-RL520-Aero-V-brake-levers-(for-ROAD-drop-bars-with-V-brakes)--per-pair-Black-14956.htm

(http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/14956tektro_l.jpg)

Any Q's or suggestions for products you think we should stock just drop me a mail

dave@sjscycles.com

Dave Whittle SJSC Sales
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: freddered on October 27, 2008, 10:11:01 am
I can vouch for the Tektro brake levers.  I replaced my Diacompe 287V (junk) levers a few months ago.  Much better quality, much better braking and much cheaper.

As for the drop bar extensions  :'(

I'll let someone else try those I think.  I can't imagine them doing much more than make a bike look extremely ugly.

The chain will be on my shopping list next time I need one.  I tried faffing about attaching a half-link to my existing chain and it didn't fit properly.  Does anyone know if this has a 'powerlink' or do you have to use a rivet-extractor to re-join it?
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: stutho on October 27, 2008, 11:05:11 am
Does anyone know if this has a 'powerlink' or do you have to use a rivet-extractor to re-join it?
If there is a half link powerlink then they have got a winner! I love the ability to quickly and easily remove my chain. It is only the lack of a powerlink that will be stopping me from using this chain.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: freddered on October 27, 2008, 01:19:30 pm
If there is a half link powerlink then they have got a winner! I love the ability to quickly and easily remove my chain. It is only the lack of a powerlink that will be stopping me from using this chain.

Exactly, being able to knock out a half link every year and quickly re-join chain sounds perfect as 1 link is annoyingly slightly too much for my eccentric BB adjustment to deal with unless the chain is very slack.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on October 27, 2008, 09:00:09 pm
No power link i'm afraid lads (or ladettes) would be vitualy impossible if you think about it.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on October 27, 2008, 09:01:59 pm
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I'll let someone else try those I think.  I can't imagine them doing much more than make a bike look extremely ugly.

But very handy to get a drop position with Rohloff and V brakes!!

(http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/18606pro_alt1.jpg)
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: bobs on October 27, 2008, 10:11:26 pm
Sorry, but it just looks a mess!
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Fred A-M on October 27, 2008, 10:56:06 pm
I like the idea of plugging thorn-related products of interest on the site nonetheless, a welcome addition for those of us who are a little too pressed time-wise to frequently browse cycling mag reviews/ads. 

I also welcome the presence of an (other) SJS contributor to the site to help ensure objective technical representation, something that I felt the site has lacked on the odd occassion.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: jimmer on October 28, 2008, 07:59:48 am
Dear All,

I likewise welcome input from the sjs team.

The drop extensions are an interesting development. Interesting as in truly wierd. Having said that at present most of the riding I'm doing on my Catalyst is in preparation for a Brum to JOG next summer. My companions are on 700c road bikes, I've yet to get one (thinking of cyclosportif or an audax) as my employers cycle to work scheme won't start 'till April '09 and I figure train hard, ride easy. Such a set up may make training at least easier, if not negate the need to get a new bike.

With most straight or riser bars they would give a very wide position, reducing aerodynamic efficiency.

Would the straight sections at the end of extension allow direct fitting of a Rohloff changer? If so bring 'em on. Makes many options possible.

Yours, James
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: freddered on October 28, 2008, 03:33:31 pm
But very handy to get a drop position with Rohloff and V brakes!!

(http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/18606pro_alt1.jpg)

Initially I thought that looked like a good way to have many hand positions (flats, drops, hoods) but I'm wondering just how wide that setup is, it looks very wide.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: rualexander on October 28, 2008, 03:42:32 pm
I reckon that it would be better to have the drop extensions inboard of the straight bar grips and get rid of the straight bar brake levers?
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: freddered on October 28, 2008, 04:09:12 pm
Agreed, so then you can have regular drops at a regular width (around 40cm), Rohloff shifter near the stem perhaps and wide flat bars for control sticking out from the drops.

If that worked you would have wide, flat bars for control/rough-track, hoods for comfort, drops for aero plus the Rohloff shifter on the bar tops.  It may just work Jim.  Not sure how much force you coul dput on hoods when climbnig out of saddle.

Still kinugly though, but would that matter on a World Tour?

Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: bobs on October 28, 2008, 06:21:29 pm
Why not go for the full monty. ;)
(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd29/bobsimpson1953/thorn.jpg)
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: john28july on October 28, 2008, 08:17:44 pm
Now that Sheldon Brown Thorn just shows how a bike that is the wrong size in every way, 'can' be 'made' to fit?
John. :o
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on October 28, 2008, 10:09:51 pm
The setup uses our special narrow straight bars so the setup ain't that wide.

To be brutal its not pretty but its a question of function over form that setup works really well, gives you decent braking in every position.

Will keep you updated on new stuff if thats what you guys want.

Quite soon we will have:

Giles Berthoud stainless steel mudguards, maybe the bags and saddles too!

Hebie propstands

Kool Stop brake pads

New 2009 Endura

Twenty 20 helmet cameras


Ta 4 now

Dave Whittle
SJSC Sales
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: stutho on October 29, 2008, 10:26:11 am
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Kool Stop brake pads

Dose this include the hard to track down Salmon V-Type Brake Insert?

 
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on October 29, 2008, 12:04:51 pm
Yes Salmon on order
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on November 04, 2008, 01:00:58 am
Most of the Hebie stands now in, pictures coming soon : http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/category.asp?cat_id=323
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: kwkirby01 on November 04, 2008, 03:42:35 pm
Quite soon we will have:

Giles Berthoud stainless steel mudguards, maybe the bags and saddles too!
Dave, any idea about the widest Gilles Berthoud 'guards I can use on a Sherpa? Thanks, Kevin
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on November 14, 2008, 01:41:42 pm
Now in stock 60LUX!!! Thats half again as powerful as an IQ Fly!!

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Busch-and-Muller-Busch-and-Muller-Lumotec-Cyo-60-N+-Switchable-LED-hub-dynamo-front-light-with-bracket-and-standlight-18718.htm
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on November 14, 2008, 01:42:33 pm
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Dave, any idea about the widest Gilles Berthoud 'guards I can use on a Sherpa? Thanks, Kevin

No idea at the mo, we are yet to get them, I expect the 50's will fit fine though.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: vik on November 14, 2008, 02:15:41 pm
Dave, any idea about the widest Gilles Berthoud 'guards I can use on a Sherpa? Thanks, Kevin

Kevin,

I put these 60mm planet bike fenders on my Sherpa and they fit fine.

http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7027_5.html

So I imagine the 60mm GB fenders would fit as well.  I have some 60mm GB fenders I haven't installed and measured them they are the same actual width as the PBs.

(http://bp2.blogger.com/_vUEhS0lU3eU/SG5FSobglzI/AAAAAAAAFow/mK2iJfm6RwE/s400/Sherpa.jpg)
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: kwkirby01 on November 14, 2008, 05:12:51 pm
Thanks Vik - I'll maybe give it a go. Kevin
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on November 15, 2008, 11:12:53 pm
We will only be able to get 40 or 50mm ones.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: kwkirby01 on November 16, 2008, 05:44:39 pm
We will only be able to get 40 or 50mm ones.
This rather limits tyre sizes that can be used, as I understand the tyre must be 10mm smaller than the mudguard.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: vik on November 16, 2008, 08:55:32 pm
This rather limits tyre sizes that can be used, as I understand the tyre must be 10mm smaller than the mudguard.

You can run a 50mm fender on a 50mm tire, but you will need to raise it a bit, relative to the top of the tread, to ensure there is adequate clearance at the edges of the fender where they curve down.  Also a 60mm fender will provide better protection from spray compared to a 50mm fender when used on a 50mm wide tire.

GB makes a 26" x 60mm wide stainless fender so if you really want a set I'm sure you'll find a source.  I spent a fair bit of time tracking mine down.

The Planet Bike Cascadia ATB fender is a very nice plastic fender that is 60mm wide if you aren't 100% set on metal.

safe riding,

Vik
www.thelazyrando.com
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on November 20, 2008, 10:26:05 am
Had a word and added some 60mm ones to the order  ;)
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: kwkirby01 on November 20, 2008, 02:06:34 pm
Dave, you might want to look at http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/fenderchart.pdf  (http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/fenderchart.pdf)which lists the size of Berthoud mudguards required for various different wheel/tyre combinations. For example, 26" x 1.75" tyres are reccomended to use 650 x 50mm mudguards.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on November 20, 2008, 06:46:23 pm
Thanks, though I will wait till they come and see, after all SKS think 45mm guards are too narrow for 26 x 1.75!
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on December 18, 2008, 09:31:36 am
We now (Finaly!!) have good stocks of the new Schmidt eDelux light!! 60 lux, waterproof, comes in black or silver.

(http://www.sjscycles.co.uk//images/products/17283blkschmidt_xl.jpg)
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on January 12, 2009, 11:03:59 pm
We have in June a very limited supply of special edition RED Son 20R and Son 20R Disc hubs, these will come with a matching RED eDelux light and will match the red Rohloff hub, we will get a handfull of each, they will then never be made again, if you want to order one you will need to call me 01278 441542 and place a deposit on one.
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on February 12, 2009, 08:17:34 pm
Giles stainless fenders/mudgaurds now in stock.

100's of Sturmey Archer parts http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/category-Sturmey-Archer-Internal-Hub-Gear-Spares-426.htm (http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/category-Sturmey-Archer-Internal-Hub-Gear-Spares-426.htm) now in stock on the shelf ready for despatch!

Brompton BWR (Brompton Wide Range) hubs, wheels, and conversion kits now instock http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Brompton-Brompton-Gear-Upgrade-set-3spd-to-6spd-BWR-exc.Cables--QDRRETSET3-%3E6BWR-19449.htm (http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Brompton-Brompton-Gear-Upgrade-set-3spd-to-6spd-BWR-exc.Cables--QDRRETSET3-%3E6BWR-19449.htm)
Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on March 18, 2009, 10:47:51 pm
Finaly got the Kool Stop Salmon V brake blocks in stock that people keep asking me for,also in stock is the new Brompton 2009 saddle, the new improved 2009 right hand pedal and the massivly improved Brompton XL front sealed bearing wheels!

Some updates of products I get asked daily for!!

Rido R2 saddles, due end of the month
Schmidt Edelux lights, due end of June (limited number only)
Shimano 7/8 speed bar end shifters due any day now
Brompton Firm suspension blocks, due in 4 weeks
Brompton C type bags, due in 12 weeks

Keep the requests coming for new products....

Title: Re: Some new products
Post by: Dave Whittle Thorn Workshop on July 06, 2009, 10:22:54 pm
New product by popular demand!

Replace broken spoke of any length without removing cogs!
Kevlar spoke with metal threaded end and nipple
Detailed instructions and tool are included
Spoke Type: Straight Gauge
Spoke Diameter: 2.0 mm
Length: 450 mm

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-SJSC-Fiber-Fix-Emergency-Replacement-Spoke-20155.htm (http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-SJSC-Fiber-Fix-Emergency-Replacement-Spoke-20155.htm)

(http://www.sjscycles.com/xxlimages/20155fiber_xxl.jpg)