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Technical => General Technical => Topic started by: RST Scout on November 30, 2016, 10:02:11 pm
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Just wondering how easy is it to remove and fit the rear wheel on a RST? How does the Rohloff affect the operation, especially when fixing a puncture when out on a ride.
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At least on a Raven Tour I used extensively, I found removing and replacing the rear wheel was not as involved as on a derailleur bike. Shift into Gear 14, the two cables quickly untwist at the bayonet connections, and the wheel simply drops out after opening the hub quick relwase. Simply reverse the steps to reinsert the wheel.
On my Nomad with external Rohloff shiftbox, unscrewing the thumbwheel for the shifter is even faster than undoing the internal shifter's paired bayonet connectors but in practice, it is a wash as the time differs by only a couple of seconds. Both quick and easy, usually moreso than on a bike with derailleur drivetrain.
Best,
Dan.
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so TabbyCat did u buy a new rst .
jags.
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It's a breeze.
I did a trial run of packing Thomas into a box last night....
Release the Brake cable.... Flip the shifter to 1 or 14, release the cables, flip the leaver on the skewer & out it pops 8)
None of the Derailleur spring arguing with the chain & cassette ring nonsense :)
Cheers,
Paul.
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Are you thinking of getting a rohloff Mr Kelly ;)
Alfie 8)
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ME ,huh not a chance Alfie i don't trust them no matter what u say ;D ;D
rohloff just got no style man ::)
jags.
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rohloff just got no style man ::)
jags.
But they do come with lots of polish ;) ;D
Paul.
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about the only bling they have Paul.
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about the only bling they have Paul.
They come in red as well as black.
😉
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As had been said, it's easy.
So easy in fact that I forgot to disconnect the 2 gear shifter wires and shook the wheel out!
Luckily I could reconnect the wires.
Won't ever do that again.
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Anto,
Have a look here and see what style looks like.
Bob
http://www.cyclemonkey.com
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Anto,
Have a look here and see what style looks like.
Bob
http://www.cyclemonkey.com
Nice Bob but look at these baby's get a tissue first could be a lot of drooling going on. ;)https://www.google.ie/search?q=photos+of+bikes+with+carbon+campagnolo&rlz=1C2ASAC_enIE467IE469&biw=1024&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC0abKttPQAhUmKcAKHb2tDBoQsAQIGw
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https://www.google.ie/search?q=photos+of+bikes+with+carbon+campagnolo&rlz=1C2ASAC_enIE467IE469&biw=1024&bih=677&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiC0abKttPQAhUmKcAKHb2tDBoQsAQIGw
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Just wondering how easy is it to remove and fit the rear wheel on a RST? How does the Rohloff affect the operation, especially when fixing a puncture when out on a ride.
Very easy. Just disconnect two cables with twist fit bayonets. Easy to reconnect as long as they are not run too tight. As easy as a derailleur bike as Dan has reported.
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Even easier with a chainglider fitted.
Just remove the rear sprocket sections and the chain is mostly contained whilst the wheel is off.
Julian.
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so TabbyCat did u buy a new rst .
jags.
Not yet. I'm still dithering but I do have my eye on one. Currently trying to sell a Leica camera and lenses to finance new bike. God alone knows how long that will take :-(
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At least on a Raven Tour I used extensively, I found removing and replacing the rear wheel was not as involved as on a derailleur bike. Shift into Gear 14, the two cables quickly untwist at the bayonet connections, and the wheel simply drops out after opening the hub quick relwase. Simply reverse the steps to reinsert the wheel.
On my Nomad with external Rohloff shiftbox, unscrewing the thumbwheel for the shifter is even faster than undoing the internal shifter's paired bayonet connectors but in practice, it is a wash as the time differs by only a couple of seconds. Both quick and easy, usually moreso than on a bike with derailleur drivetrain.
Best,
Dan.
Oh thanks for that. It sounds easy. I'm fairly hands on with my bikes.
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ME ,huh not a chance Alfie i don't trust them no matter what u say ;D ;D
rohloff just got no style man ::)
jags.
I'd say they have style in their simplicity. 8)
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TabbyCat don't buy a rohloff bike you wan't a bike with SOUL 8)
if your going for a Thorn buy the Audax 853 deck her out in dura ace carbon wheels compass tyres cost you lots but your worth it i reckon.
anto.
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;D ;D ;D
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"cost you lots but your worth it i reckon."
I'm blushing now!
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your the second person i made blush tonight ,it's me good looks and irish charm. ;)
anto.
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I've decided on a RST, green with flat bars and honey B17 saddle. Out of interest. What is the point of a carbon fork instead of a 531 fork, apart from weight that is?
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the carbon fork will soak up the bumps better also make for a stiffer front better handling looks 8) 8).
why straight bars the drops will give you way more hand positions much more comfy,u can tuck in way better (head winds /down hill) with drops ;)
be certain to get the right tyres light slick dont buy a heavy tyre you will regret it .anyway very best of luck enjoy every pedal stroke.
anto.
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I've decided on a RST, green with flat bars and honey B17 saddle. Out of interest. What is the point of a carbon fork instead of a 531 fork, apart from weight that is?
Great, welcome to the RST in BRG with flat bars and a brooks B17 owners club! A small and select bunch. Here's mine demonstrating the art of camouflage at Coniston Water this weekend.
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It's a big mistake to ask advice here as everyone is different. I would go for steel fork, straight handle bars for a more rideable and comfortable position and wide puncture proof tyres which allow you to go anywhere you want.
Unless you want to hammer everywhere as fast as you can on good roads then Jag's option is good.
Bob
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firm believer in making cycling as easy as possible fast is not as bad as it sounds.mind you i'm to feckin old to be going fast :'(
i never go off road here, as far as i know theres no off road routes in my area well most of the roads are crap anyway .
when i had the sherpa i had marathon plus at the beginning terrible tyres when i changed to the supreams it gave the bike a much more livelier feeling .
most people are under the impression the lighter the bike and gear the worst it's going to ride could not be more wrong ,go as light as you can enjoy the ride.
this is the reason i went for the Audax it's going to carry my lightweight load no problem and going to tackle hills that bit easier.
if i could afford it (i can't) i would build my audax up with Dura Ace carbon wheels and bars light fast super strong and look super cool. 8)
sure i might as well dream here as in bed.
jags.
meant to say you can go slow on a light bike . ;D
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I've decided on a RST, green with flat bars and honey B17 saddle. Out of interest. What is the point of a carbon fork instead of a 531 fork, apart from weight that is?
Carbon is lighter, but more prone to catastrophic failures if scratched or otherwise damaged. The 531 steel forks on an RST are reasonably light and absorb bumps quite well, though probably not as much as carbon.
But having once had a fork fail while riding (very old steel fork), I prefer steel or titanium for forks.
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It's a big mistake to ask advice here as everyone is different. I would go for steel fork, straight handle bars for a more rideable and comfortable position and wide puncture proof tyres which allow you to go anywhere you want.
Agree on steel fork, I've seen a lot of broken carbon frames/forks/wheels, apart from my own fork failure, not many catastrophic failures on steel parts.
Handlebars are personal preference - despite getting older I still like drops, wife likes swept back bars as used on "sit up and beg" roadsters. Neither of us like mountain-bike style bars where hands are at about 90 degrees to the bikes longitudinal axis, though we do have them on the Bromptons and one of my utility bikes (on this I use the bar ends a lot).
With an RST, the biggest tyres possible while still retaining reasonable mudguard clearance would be about 1.6". Marathon Supremes in 1.6" width are an easy-rolling but still comfortable tyre, with moderately good puncture resistance and still quite light. My wife has these in the 650B wheel size (in between 700C and 26") and thinks them a great improvement on the lightweight 700Cx28 tyres she had on her previous bike, much more comfortable without being appreciably slower.
I went for slightly smaller and more fragile 1.35" Kojaks on my RST. These are still quite comfortable, maybe a wee bit faster on good road surfaces but not as good as Marathon Supreme 1.6" on rough surfaces (towpaths, etc.). But I got my RST for fast riding on good roads, I have other bikes with 2.0" Marathon Supremes for heavy touring, mild off-road and general use.
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Hi all,
The bike I'm getting is already made up. Apparently it was built during 'down' time and has flat handlebars and 531 cro-mo forks and is on offer ;). The reason I asked about carbon forks is because there is another (drop handlebars) in my size that has carbon forks which I thought was a little odd on a 26" wheeled tourer. However, it looks nice and has even lower gears than the one I want. I've gone for flat bars because I get pain in my upper arms/shoulders on drops and I prefer to sit up.
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Jags,
Round here we have the end of the Trans Pennine Trail and the Leeds to Liverpool canal tow path. Also pinewoods and trails so plenty of opportunity for going off-road (or rough-stuff as it used to be known). I do not thrash my bikes down single track (have you seen the Red Bull videos? ;D). I'm a follower of Albert Winstanley and his kind of cycling if anyone still remembers him.
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The RST will be ideal for that sort of use, good luck with it. We would all love to hear how you get on. With the bike already built an on offer, I guess you didn't get much choice re tyres etc., but that is nothing to worry about - SJSC will have fitted it with sound all-round tyres and they can easily be changed if you later fancy something different.
Enjoy the bike! I've done the TransPennine trail, with a few add-ons - from Lancaster to my home in Sheffield, with a deviation to Macclesfield to stay with my daughter. I was on a Raven Tour at that time, a bit heavier than the RST, I now ride a Sherpa with lightweight wheels, forks etc.
Lewis
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Either of those are lovely machines, Tab'; hard to go wrong with either.
I'd think the gearing could be changed for a modest upcharge if that is the sticking point for you.
All best wishes in your selection. It's always enjoyable when new-bike excitement is in the air!
Dan.
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Jags,
Round here we have the end of the Trans Pennine Trail and the Leeds to Liverpool canal tow path. Also pinewoods and trails so plenty of opportunity for going off-road (or rough-stuff as it used to be known). I do not thrash my bikes down single track (have you seen the Red Bull videos? ;D). I'm a follower of Albert Winstanley and his kind of cycling if anyone still remembers him.
sounds fantastic TabbyCat the rst will handle any kind of surface that's for certain ;) there's a lot of greenways here in sunny Ireland but there all newly built with smooth tarmac, i haven't been on any yet i usually stick to back roads mostly traffic free but loads of hills ,still if i'm on my own hills ain't a problem.anyway enjoy the new baby and post loads photos ,btw have u any tours planned or are u a bit like me who likes a good bike for all occasions ,(i was going to say under your ass but Dan would probably edit that bit out)even thought he knows i'm only having the craic.
jags.
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Hi all,
The bike I'm getting is already made up. Apparently it was built during 'down' time and has flat handlebars and 531 cro-mo forks and is on offer ;). The reason I asked about carbon forks is because there is another (drop handlebars) in my size that has carbon forks which I thought was a little odd on a 26" wheeled tourer. However, it looks nice and has even lower gears than the one I want. I've gone for flat bars because I get pain in my upper arms/shoulders on drops and I prefer to sit up.
only just seen this .girl you should have tried both bikes before you parted with your dosh.the drop bars and carbon fork sounds good to me ,if i had kept my beautiful sherpa i would have fitted a carbon fork ,i dont like front panniers kills the feel of a bike IMHO.but sure what would i know ;D ;D
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Congratulations on your new bike, a thorn rst , green, flat bars and honey brooks b17. Sounds great. Wishing you many happy miles, and please keep us posted on your adventures.
Regards Alfie 8)