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Title: only 30 made.
Post by: jags on June 19, 2014, 08:58:04 PM
Wonder what Andre thinks of this beauti.

http://www.bikerumor.com/2014/06/12/new-pininfarina-fuoriserie-makes-electric-bikes-sexy/.


anto.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: Andre Jute on June 20, 2014, 12:15:35 AM
Wonder what Andre thinks of this beauti.
http://www.bikerumor.com/2014/06/12/new-pininfarina-fuoriserie-makes-electric-bikes-sexy/.
anto.

The form doesn't follow function closely enough for me.

Whoever pays for that bike to hang it on a wall will get his money's worth. It's a pointless work of art. Whoever spends the money to ride it shouldn't breed as there are already enough idiots in the world.

By the way, regarding "the legendary Lancia Astura Bocca", I owned several Lancia over the years, including some vintage ones of superior technical interest (narrow V engines, monocoques essentially of spaceframes roundabout the time Colin Chapman was born, sliding pillar suspension as still found on Morgans), and this is the first time I've heard of "the legendary Lancia Astura Bocca"; what I knew about was a flashy styling exercise on a leftover prewar chassis. It must be a "legend" the writer or the pininfarina (their preferred spelling is with the lower case P and F) PR flack invented on the spot.

You asked...
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: jags on June 20, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
so basically you dont like it. ::)

ah well sure a fella can only try.

anto.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: triaesthete on June 20, 2014, 10:00:03 AM

To carry on in the cynical vein; do you think they spent more time assessing the number of SUCKAS out there (say it like Mr T you know you want to!)

It appears they have transgressed another Jute shibboleth by fitting a dynamo hub to an e bike  :P

Ian
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: energyman on June 20, 2014, 04:34:03 PM
Obviously been in a smash as the cross bar is bent ...................... :D
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: Andre Jute on June 20, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
... fitting a dynamo hub to an e bike  :P

I'm not a weight weenie but carrying both a big battery for the motor, and a dynamo for the lamps? Duh. Some "stylist" who doesn't cycle was given a list of "sexy components" and told to use the maximum number.

Obviously been in a smash as the cross bar is bent ...................... :D

Exactly. What function does that bend serve except "styling"? I certainly weakens the central diamond of the bike, and requires a heavier tube or tubes to be used than would be optimal for weight.

And whoever designed that plaited leather saddle should be forced to sit on it long enough to ensure that he doesn't do it again.

At least drillium, an honest workman's workmanlike embellishment, can be presumed to have a function on a bike, lightening parts...
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: RonS on June 20, 2014, 07:09:32 PM
But you can hook the dynamo up to the battery and run forever!
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: jags on June 20, 2014, 07:15:06 PM
Ah lads its a class looking bike  ::)
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: RonS on June 20, 2014, 07:28:50 PM
I agree with you Anto that it is a work of art. It is best hung on a wall though as whoever buys it will most likely crash on the first ride trying to manipulate the backwards brake levers.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: jags on June 20, 2014, 07:34:31 PM
Ah Ron your as bad as andre ;D ;D
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: Andre Jute on June 20, 2014, 09:55:45 PM
I also wonder if the person who designed it is quite normal. That hook on the top tube is perfectly positioned to catch both male and female riders exactly where it will hurt most.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: JWestland on June 27, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
I agree with you Anto that it is a work of art. It is best hung on a wall though as whoever buys it will most likely crash on the first ride trying to manipulate the backwards brake levers.

French Porteur brake style...was done a lot in France in (if memory serves me well...) 50s by delivery boys racing each other.

So while it looks stupid to UK people...it may actually work OK.

But this is utter form over function...e-bikes are a modern invention, don't combine this with a lugged frame/leather/chrome which is purely bling, if it must be steel fillet brazed stainless, carbon fork and modern graphics could be the "shit". Or whatever it is young ones say these days... :D
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: John Saxby on June 27, 2014, 03:45:37 PM
Yes, I've seen similar brake & clutch levers on vintage BMW motorcycles.  "A design exercise", I think they call such bikes. Maybe the overall shape works--who am I to criticize la carosserie which produced things like a 1750 Alfa Giulia, after all?--but that convex top tube looks ready to penalize any momentary lapse in concentration. Forgiving it ain't.

Having just finished about 500 kms of comfy shakedown cruise on my Raven, though, I'm dismayed by the saddle/bars height difference -- I guess the saddle could be lowered by, say 12 - 15 cms, but still ...

Leather wraps make a nice touch, but I wouldn't fancy their appearance after a few days of rain & crud -- though again, one wouldn't expose this to rain & crud, nicht wahr?

J.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: energyman on June 27, 2014, 03:56:37 PM
They have to make it look different otherwise it would be ..... just another bike...... or as my old mum used to say, it's for people with MMTS (More money than sense)
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: JWestland on June 27, 2014, 05:28:00 PM
You know what they say...money can't buy good taste  ;D
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: jags on June 27, 2014, 05:42:32 PM
cynics the lot of ya  ;D ;D

i still think its a class machine.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: triaesthete on June 27, 2014, 09:01:17 PM


Those old reversed levers made good engineering sense insofar as they gave your strongest fingers the most leverage as they were furthest from the pivot.

Important in the olde days of friction materials when those with strong hands had some brakes and the rest needed all the help they could get.

Also lent themselves to internal cable runs too....

Like the idea of incestuous battery, motor, dynamo, battery relationship for a perpetual motion machine  ;D

Don't let them spoil your fun Anto, there is no Sanity Clause.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: Andre Jute on June 28, 2014, 07:51:39 PM
Like the idea of incestuous battery, motor, dynamo, battery relationship for a perpetual motion machine  ;D

…there is no Sanity Clause.

Self-explanatory.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: triaesthete on June 29, 2014, 01:22:36 AM


 Inbrid.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: Andre Jute on June 29, 2014, 05:12:42 AM
Inbrid.

 >:(
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: triaesthete on June 29, 2014, 10:50:29 AM

Que?
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: Andre Jute on June 29, 2014, 11:39:22 AM
Que?

I thought you had it already:

Inbrid.

Incest as redneck networking.
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: John Saxby on June 29, 2014, 03:29:12 PM
Quote
Incest as redneck networking.

Hi Brid! Howzit?

(And to think that The Great Man, pf, started all this!  Mischievous, those Italians...)
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: jags on June 29, 2014, 03:39:00 PM
ah its great to be alive. ::)
Title: Re: only 30 made.
Post by: triaesthete on June 29, 2014, 07:51:43 PM

Inbrid: Closed loop hybrid drive.

Incest as redneck networking  ;D ;D ;D     Pass the oxygen please. How very pharoanic of them!