Thorn Cycles Forum
		Technical => General Technical => Topic started by: jags on January 18, 2014, 10:52:33 PM
		
			
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				http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPcdf0wKUM&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs
 gotta watch this,this is what you call a tool kit.
 man i love this stuff.
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				Hi,
 Man that is OTT  :o
 
 That Man is in need of a little help! a kit is good But it needs to be small and simple...
 
 All the best with your kit  :)
 
 Pete   :-\
 
 
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				yes way over the top he just had to fill every space in that case. still good stuff  dont you think ;)
			
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				That does look cool,  I can hear my wife voice in my head asking me why I need it.  I want what ever this guy had to survive for 29 years.
 
 Peter
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				Sorry I did not add the link.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25772192 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25772192)
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				Sorry I did not add the link.
 
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25772192 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25772192)
 
 wonder if theres any more guys like him still out there. 8)
 
 and you guys think i'm mental ;D ;D
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				Well what do we all carry in the way of a "toolkit" when using our Thorns?
 
 I carry far too many toolkits (plural):
 
 No. 1) bike (mechanical)
 
 pump
 spare inner tube,
 1 tyre-lever
 puncture repair kit
 Leatherman Crunch + allen, torx and screwdriver hex-bits
 6" adjustable spanner
 couple of zip-ties
 
 Sometimes, for extended trips, the following additional items:
 
 chain link tool
 crank extractor
 selection of hex-head bolts + nuts, mostly M5
 Rohloff internal shift cable assembly pre-cut with bayonette connectors pre-fitted
 brake (inner) cable
 pair of brake pads
 
 No. 2) bike (electrical) (only carried if definitely cycling during hours of darkness)
 
 small head-torch
 couple of AA cells and/or AAA cells (depending on bike / trike)
 2 metre length of 2-core wire pre-wired with 2.8mm spade connectors on one end and bare wires on the other
 2 junction strip connectors
 some insulating tape
 
 No. 3) first-aid kit
 
 plasters
 bandage
 sticky tape
 surgical gloves
 alcohol wipes
 scissors (actually on a small Swiss-Army knife)
 
 And I have managed to persuade my spouse to carry a no. 1 kit when she goes cycling too.
 
 (She would prefer to carry her "universal" break-down kit,
 i.e. a mobile phone to phone me to come and fix it)
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 when i was on the road bike with the local group all i carried for years was 2 tubes  set tyre leavers that was it.now i carry enough tools to fix a dozen bikes ::)
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				when i was on the road bike with the local group all i carried for years was 2 tubes  set tyre leavers that was it.now i carry enough tools to fix a dozen bikes ::)
 
 
 All I carry is 2 tubes, set of tyre levers, and an allen key multi tool. Oh, and there's a chain tool lives somewhere in the saddle bag that goes with the RST.
 
 I can't think of anything else I could effectively use (actually, it's been so many years since I used the chain tool, I'm not 100% sure I can remember how it works now.)   :-[
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				Jim in my carradice barley (great bit of kit love it) i carry  full tool kit/rain top /rain bottoms.long finger gloves/lights/2 tubes/puncture repair patches/food snacks/cloths.
 i'm certain theres more in there i havent found yet but to be honest it doesn't bother me taking the extra weight, i travel at a speed that's not a problem to either man nor beast. ;D ;D
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				My bike can be completely disassembled right down to the two wheels and the bottom bracket, which require special tools and large spanners to hold/drive them, with just a 68gr hex bit Topeak Toolbar and one 8x10mm spanner, both of which are in my tool bag. Also in the tool bag, a half inch socket for the wretched "clip" on the Brooks saddle, a Brooks saddle stretching spanner, a Presta to automobile valve adapter in case we want to pump up a pedal pal's tyres at the garage, a small digital pressure gauge, a spokey, an old florin (a coin for opening battery slots on HRM, bike computers, etc), coin battery spares, AAA battery spares for my front flasher (I no longer use a rear flasher), a plastic bag to put over hands if a companion's chain should fall off (mine doesn't) or for paper rubbish (biodegradables like banana skins I throw in the river and face down the self-appointed idiots who patrol the lanes), a single self sticking patch, tyre levers (on the Toolbar). All of this fits in a lady's small leather coin purse and doesn't weigh much. The tools are wrapped in lightly oiled tissues against damp. There is also a pump on the bike but I haven't had a flat in ten years: it is there for pedal pals with less secure tyres than mine. Generally, if it will rain, I'm wearing the rain jacket, so I carry only plastic trousers for heavy rain, and I've worn them once in about five years, and then for extreme cold (ver effective, actually, as long as you keep moving) rather than rain. There's a leather saddlebag for food, and bottle holder for water or lemon and honey tea.
 
 There's no chain tool carried on the bike. What for? It is true that the quick link's promise of being broken and refitted by fingers alone is fraudulent, but if we need to break a chain on the road on a pedal pal's bike for some reason I cannot now conceive of, we'd come home in a taxi and drop the bike off at Joe the LBS on the way for him to fix.
 
 That kit with which Jags started this thread is way, way over the top. Still, as an inveterate tool fondler, I think many of that fellow's tools would look good in my home bicycle toolbox for my current bike, an aluminum pilot's case with tool pallets inserted. They're the sort of tools that one would be proud to own even if you use them only once in a lifetime.
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				if we need to break a chain on the road on a pedal pal's bike for some reason I cannot now conceive of ... well, of course, Andre, there's always one wise guy in the crowd, right?
 
 Only time I've ever had to use my chain tool on the road was some years back on a ride from Pretoria to Durban to celebrate a friend's 70th birthday, in the Natal midlands if memory serves: the chain snapped on one of our riders' bikes and everyone (else) looked at each other in dismay (most were rookie riders).  I wasn't any kind of specialist, but managed to assure myself of years of street cred by opening my average-sized toolkit, removing the offending link with my chain tool, reassembling the lot, and continuing on to our stop near Mooi River in the brilliant mid-December afternoon sunshine.
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				 ... well, of course, Andre, there's always one wise guy in the crowd, right?  
 
 Only time I've ever had to use my chain tool on the road was some years back on a ride from Pretoria to Durban to celebrate a friend's 70th birthday, in the Natal midlands if memory serves: the chain snapped on one of our riders' bikes and everyone (else) looked at each other in dismay (most were rookie riders).  I wasn't any kind of specialist, but managed to assure myself of years of street cred by opening my average-sized toolkit, removing the offending link with my chain tool, reassembling the lot, and continuing on to our stop near Mooi River in the brilliant mid-December afternoon sunshine.
 
 
 That must have been in the ur-age of chains, John, before they became so reliable. Today anyone carrying a chain tool would have bicycle-cred points deducted, I reckon.
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				Man that is OTT  :o
 
 That Man is in need of a little help! a kit is good But it needs to be small and simple...
 
 All the best with your kit  :)
 
 
 
 Then you also have to add all the kit for the proposed new safety standard, lol.
 
 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vUEhS0lU3eU/SKRIZD7bA5I/AAAAAAAAF04/FfsYHDN6Tmg/s1600-h/savebikeriding.jpg
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				Then you also have to add all the kit for the proposed new safety standard, lol.
 
 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vUEhS0lU3eU/SKRIZD7bA5I/AAAAAAAAF04/FfsYHDN6Tmg/s1600-h/savebikeriding.jpg
 
 
 Camel, what camel? That's a horse, designed by a (safety) committee.
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				My full tool kit no - as used on longer tours of >3-4 days. There is a bit of redundancy in there now that I run the Rohloff, but it is mostly of good value for tat once-off event that stumps me or my mates.
 
 Tools
 6” shifting spanner
 pliers
 2 tyre levers
 Topeak Alien multi-tool
 8mm spanner
 15mm pedal spanner
 chain tool
 10mm allen key
 spoke key
 Rohloff sprocket remover
 screw driver (multi-head)
 cleaning brush
 puncture repair kit
 tyre boot
 
 Spares
 gear & brake cables
 brake pads
 adhesive tape
 zip ties (asstd. sizes)
 baling wire
 hose clamp
 steel rod (5 x 110mm)
 assorted nuts & bolts
 2 spare tubes
 grease tub
 chain lube