Thorn Cycles Forum
Technical => Wheels, Tyres and Brakes => Topic started by: Matt2matt2002 on March 11, 2013, 10:07:04 AM
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Quite happy with my Hubert bars with the new foam fitted.
However I now realise that I am not using the tips /ends.
Flat part Ok
Upwards parts OK
But the curved tips are never used.
I have a small mirror on the curve of the bar but above that nothing.
Shame to have those tips sitting there doing nothing.
Anyone any ideas?
Since they are at an angle clipping a speedo or holder would not look right.
Matt - behind bars again.
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My memory says that there are three shapes of bar end available to fit your bars.
Maybe look for the shortest ones which will remove the dreaded unused overhang.
Julian.
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Humpert bars ??
Which type do you have - the folding ones, the rigid trekking style, the X-ACT Boomerang, or the Diamante City bars?
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Not the folding type - although I did have my eye on them.
The bike came with the ones shown in the picture
Nor sure of their name
Maybe you can identify?
Seams a shame to have them sitting there doing nothing.
:-\
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A bit like my old bar-ends but they sweep in further. I would use those forward tips for two things:
1. A deep forward reach for steep hill-climbing when spinning,
2. A pseudo-aero position for fast descents - arms forwards, bum back, body lowww.
They could also be rotated upwards for a high, relaxed sightseeing position. You're correct in saying they probably won't get too much use. A reason why I just have the Thorn flat-track bars with Ergon GP5 grips & bar-ends.
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thanks
I had thought of rotating them up a wee bit but then i would not be comfortable with the side grips - to vertical
:'(
Think I'll keep 'em on for awhile
I have a pair of flats I can move onto if required
thanks for your tips
Matt
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Matt,
I think you have these bars
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-ahs-basic-sport-handlebars-c-w-comfort-bar-ends-254mm-clamp-prod24411/ (http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-ahs-basic-sport-handlebars-c-w-comfort-bar-ends-254mm-clamp-prod24411/)
You could chop the ends down or fit either of these...
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-classic-bar-ends-for-ahs-premium-ahs-basic-bars-prod24414/ (http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-classic-bar-ends-for-ahs-premium-ahs-basic-bars-prod24414/)
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-sport-bar-ends-for-ahs-premium-ahs-basic-bars-prod24413/ (http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/humpert-sport-bar-ends-for-ahs-premium-ahs-basic-bars-prod24413/)
Or just leave them as is.
Julian
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A friend of mine who is running these 'bars found they interfered with mounting his Ortlieb HB bag*, so...he cut off the offending ends (!). Very pleased with the results, as he never used the "return curve" on his 'bars and so didn't miss them.
Best,
Dan.
*Not a Thorn, using a quill stem on a small frame, and no possibility of mounting the bag to a T-bar, so his options were limited.
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Interesting way, Matt, of having trekking bars at a height for a sporting back-angle and yet have your accessory-bar instruments and switches actually visible. -- Andre Jute
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Interesting set-up, Matt. I spoke with some German cyclists this past Sept., on my Amsterdam-Vienna ride, and they all used these bars. I asked how they handled headwinds, and the preferred option was to lay their forearms across the lower bar, just inboard of the curve, grabbing the forward/upper bar with their hands. (i.e., a variant of the triathlon riders' V-shaped resting posture, without the elbow rests.) In our conversations, it wasn't clear to me whether they used the final, innermost curve -- I reckon you could cut those off, and still get the benefit of their lowered position, and mount a handlebar bag if you wanted to.
Cheers, J.
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A friend of mine who is running these 'bars found they interfered with mounting his Ortlieb HB bag*, so...he cut off the offending ends (!). Very pleased with the results, as he never used the "return curve" on his 'bars and so didn't miss them.
Best,
Dan.
*Not a Thorn, using a quill stem on a small frame, and no possibility of mounting the bag to a T-bar, so his options were limited.
Yikes! I am just about to transfer my Ortlieb bag and fittings across from my old Dawes Sardar to the Old Bird.
Hope it fits. Will let you know how things progress, or not.
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Don't forget, Matt, you could always move the Thorn Accessory T-bar to a position below the handlebars. That should solve most bag/handlebar fitment problems, depending on frame size and clearance over the front mudguard/headlight (if you have one).
Best,
Dan.
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Interesting set-up, Matt. I spoke with some German cyclists this past Sept., on my Amsterdam-Vienna ride, and they all used these bars. I asked how they handled headwinds, and the preferred option was to lay their forearms across the lower bar, just inboard of the curve, grabbing the forward/upper bar with their hands. (i.e., a variant of the triathlon riders' V-shaped resting posture, without the elbow rests.) In our conversations, it wasn't clear to me whether they used the final, innermost curve -- I reckon you could cut those off, and still get the benefit of their lowered position, and mount a handlebar bag if you wanted to.
Cheers, J.
Thanks John. Interesting idea. Trust our German friends to be so inventive.
I will,give it a shot next time I am out for a spin around the sunny lanes of South West Scotlandshire.
(August?) ;)
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Don't forget, Matt, you could always move the Thorn Accessory T-bar to a position below the handlebars. That should solve most bag/handlebar fitment problems, depending on frame size and clearance over the front mudguard/headlight (if you have one).
Best,
Dan.
Thanks Dan. I will keep that option in mind but will have to come back to you for instructions on that adjustment.
Will it involve 5 hours in my shed with a few bottles of beer and my complete too kit?
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Sure, Matt; give a shout if you run into trubble.
Fitting the Ortlieb HB bag is easy if you first take the shortcut of aligning the bag at the same angle as the head tube. That way, when it carries a load, it will hang level. Really pretty simple to do...just one cable that weaves its way 'round the 'bars and stem or T-bar, then tighten it up and lock it in place with an allen-head bolt. Simples!
All the best,
Dan. (...who thinks you'll have it "in the bag" when fitting the Ortlieb mount)
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Pertaining to the fitting of the bar bag the Humpert bars come in two widths. Those bars are the wider of the two so you shouldn't have any issues fitting the bag. I couldn't decide between that end and the bull ends but figured they could always be cyt down to bull type ends if wanted.
Andy
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Thanks Dan
It was the sapacer things I may need a hand with. The bar bag looks easy peasey
I have visions of me removing a nut and the whole front end falling apart with spacers flying of into, err, space. :'(
Stay tuned for the final frontier.
;)
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Mrs Matt allowed me an hour in the shed just now, so managed to relocate my Ortlieb set up.
Looks good and just awaits a test run.
Thanks Andy for advice.
I will keep the extra bar where it is and locate my new to arrive soon Cateye Adventure speedo and Garmin etrax thingie on it.
Looks like the spacer issue is a non starter but comments on juggling them about always welcome.
Matt - as some may say - well and truly behind bars.