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Community => Member's Gallery => Topic started by: u-gene on October 28, 2010, 06:48:07 PM
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Here it is: my pride and joy - brand new Nomad MKII.
Although it took some time to get it, the build quality and the way it rides, was definitely worth the wait every single day.
The steerer tube is yet to be cut off.
Greetings from Poland
Eugene
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Hi, U-gene!
We are almost neighbours - I'm from Ukraine.
My congratulations for this excellent bike!
Can you give me some details on seize and specification?
Did you travel to UK for purchase?
Regards,
Cedric
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Eugene,
That is a splendid looking bike you have, it should last a lifetime of riding.
So why cut the steerer down, leave it long for when you get older and need to sit more upright :D
Julian.
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Great looking bike! I used to know an old guy who said black is the only colour for a bike. This was because he did so many miles, including winter on salted roads here in Scotland, he had to touch up his frame quite a bit.
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Hi all
@Cedric
My bike's specs are pretty high. Durability and versatility were the main objectives in this case. I plan a ~1 year Africa tour early next year.
- Andra 30 css rims
- black anodized Rohloff hub
- Schmidt hub dynamo
- Sram PC890 chain
- Royce titanium bb
- XTR brakes & swissstop breaking pads
- Brooks Flyer Champion saddle
- Ergon GP1-L grips with Cane Creek Ergo bar ends
- Schmidt Edelux headlight; Cateye TL-LD 1100 rear light
- Schwalbe Marathon Extreme 2,25in; SKS mudguards
- Thorn Expedition rear rack; front Thorn Lo Loader
- S&S 590L frame
Purchase and size choosing details were all arranged by email. Thorn sales department is doing great job - one can fully rely on them.
@julk
I'll take your suggestion into consideration, but, honestly, I doubt I'll live this long. You know: ride the bike fast, die young :)
@Relayer
My favorite colour was last year's military green, but, since it's no longer available, I have settled on matt black and I'm happy with it.
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Hi u-gene,
I found a brother for your bike :)
In the picture is my Nomad Mk2 I got this summer. Specification is very similar to yours.
I plan about one year ride next year too, just choosing destination at the moment.
Greetings from Lithuania.
Paulius
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Hi, Paulius
Sorry for asking the same question, but what size is yours? :)
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Terrific bike, i hope you enjoy it.
My girlfriend and i are currently heading through Europe along the Danube bound eventually for South Africa on a pair of Nomad Mk2's. One Black and one yellow. You never know we may see you on the road in Africa next year.
Take care and happy cycling!
Matt
http://ontheroadwithatoad.blogspot.com/
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Hi Cedric,
Frame size is 540L. I'm not tall - 1m 65cm. Before buying I went to Bridgwater for a test ride and was impressed by the bike build and Rohloff. They had a test bike with 565L frame but I was told that 540L will fit me best. After one month thinking about configuration I placed an order by email.
Upgrades to standart specification:
S+S
Black Rohloff
Schmidt 28 Dynamo Front Hub - Black
Andra 30 CSS rim
Marathon EX 2.25" tires
SKS chromoplastic mudguards Black 65
PITLOCK Anti Theft Skewers
Sram PC890 Chain
Shimano A530 SPD Single Sided Touring Pedals
Brooks B17
Ergon GC3 Grips
Thorn Accessory Bar
Thorn Expedition Steel Rear Cycle Pannier Rack
Thorn MkV Cro Mo Steel Low Loader
3 Profile Design Kages
At the moment nothing is connected to the hub but I will add:
Supernova E3 triple
E-werk
Garmin Vista Hcx
Paulius
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Thank you, Paulius, for specification!
To: U-gene
Paulius,
About the delivery.
I contacted SJSC and they calculated the delivery cost into Ukraine, 450 GBP, which, at first glance seemed to me comparable +/- with the cost of short trip to UK (Bridgewater).
As non-UK-residents we are paying:
price-list
- VAT in UK 17.5%
+ Delivery cost
+ Custom duty in import country (Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania)
+ VAT ON custom cost (invoice + delivery + custom-duty) in import country (Poland, Ukraine, and Lithuania)
Oh, Gosh. That’s considerably increasing the total cost.
What do you think? Or how did you deal with in your cases?
To U-gene
Mski
Aren’t you afraid of crossing Africa, the wildest continent left, alone or with companions just on bikes? Going through all the countries like Somali, Uganda, etc.
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To U-gene
Mski
Aren’t you afraid of crossing Africa, the wildest continent left, alone or with companions just on bikes? Going through all the countries like Somali, Uganda, etc.
Why worry Cedric, the Bikes are up to it. Possibly so are my legs :). Will probably give Somalia a miss though. We are planning the eastern route which after the desert of Sudan and mountains, and allegedly stone throwing children, of Ethiopia is relatively tourist friendly.
If we survive i will keep you posted ;D
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Wow! 450 is a lot. SJCS quoted 150 for shipping to Canada. Most people then pay 5% tax with no duty. And we get 17.5% off because of VAT.
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....As non-UK-residents we are paying:
price-list
- VAT in UK 17.5%
+ Delivery cost
+ Custom duty in import country (Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania)
+ VAT ON custom cost (invoice + delivery + custom-duty) in import country (Poland, Ukraine, and Lithuania)....
He knows he doesn't have to pay UK VAT, he has put a minus sign in front of it!
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I contacted SJSC and they calculated the delivery cost into Ukraine, 450 GBP, which, at first glance seemed to me comparable +/- with the cost of short trip to UK (Bridgewater).
Depending on where you are in Ukraine, and how adventurous you are ;), catching Ryanair from Rzeszow/Poland to Bristol may save you quite a bit of money... A lot of hassle, but you probably can get a return ticket, bike included, well below GBP 100. Bristol-Bridgwater and Ukraine-Rzeszow is peanuts, even with a bike. The flights do not start till 28 March though!
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450 is a lot. SJCS quoted 150 for shipping to Canada.
360 pounds to ship to the USA! Seems a bit like airplane tickets. Freakish.
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Delivery to my door was 100 GBP. There is no customs duty inside EU.
I bought the bike for my company which is EU VAT payer.
Total amount I paid:
list price
- 17,5 % VAT
+ 100 GBP.
I would have to pay 21% Lithuanian VAT if I would sell the bike.
450 GBP is unreasonable price.
You have several other options:
1. Fly to Bridgewater and ride home :) ... but winter is coming.
2. Fly and take your bike back on the plane.
3. Send it someone to Poland or Lithuania for 100 GBP and then collect it from there. You can take it to Ukraine by train, bus or car and won't pay customs duty. This way I think you can save about 250 GBP.
If you need any help, let me know. I will be in Lithuania till February 24th then heading to South America.
Paulius
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Delivery to my door was 100 GBP. There is no customs duty inside EU.
I bought the bike for my company which is EU VAT payer.
Total amount I paid:
list price
- 17,5 % VAT
+ 100 GBP.
I would have to pay 21% Lithuanian VAT if I would sell the bike.
450 GBP is unreasonable price.
You have several other options:
Paulius
I could be wrong, but you might be comparing insured and uninsured prices. I work for a company that occasionally sends 30 kg £4000 bits of computer equipment anywhere in Europe. The insurance is around three times the price of the shipping.
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Thorn sends bicycles by ParcelForce. Their online calculator gives two options: 450 GBP for delivery to Ukraine using Global Express (3 days, compensation up to 2500 GBP) and 176 GBP using Global Priority (7 days, compensation up to 2500 GBP).
@Cedric - ask Thorn to send the bike to you using cheaper service.
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Hi, all.
Thank you for taking part in this survey!
It’s really impressive: 150 GBP to Canada and 176 GBP to Ukraine. But may be Canada is really closer, depends on Earth bend.
Glad to hear that there are several options. I really thought about flying and then riding home from any point. But not sure how many weeks it could take.
Especially, I liked your, Puailius, option:
to pay
-17.5% UK VAT
+ Delivery cost, 100 GBP or 176 GBP
This is really less then list price.
Thank you very much for educating me.
Paulius,
Are you going to South America fro cycle tour? If so, please let posted about your journey.
Thank you very much for your offer, but I won’t be purchasing earlier then a year (family budget should not suffer). When I will be ready, I will find somebody in Poland, or may be you will already be back from South America.
Meanwhile, I will be riding my old beloved Bianchi.
Regards,
Cedric
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Tried to upload the picture of 248 KB, but it does not allowed me. It should't be so big .
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Probably not closer as I am at the other end of Canada! :)
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Probably not closer as I am at the other end of Canada! :)
:) so
it's really funny .
Have you already bought a Thorn?
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Not yet, but I am planning on an RST - black on black, black like the raven's feathers, black like his heart, and black like his soul.
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:)
I would go for green or red colour - it should be bright and visible on road.
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Hi
My Thorn Nomad Mk 2, bought as a frame then built up using top level components. I reckon I saved ~ $A500-800 on the cost of getting a complete bike shipped to Australia.
This pic is fully loaded on its first 3-day tour in South Gippsland, a great tour of scenic hill country.
(http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/46995/2583417380074746151S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2583417380074746151IpQhvk)
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Only just finished listening to St David of Attenborough relating one of his life stories about the South Gippsland Giant Earth Worm. Though as thick as your thumb and up to 13 feet long, not seen above ground, so you should be safe.
James
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Hi
My Thorn Nomad Mk 2, bought as a frame then built up using top level components. I reckon I saved ~ $A500-800 on the cost of getting a complete bike shipped to Australia.
This pic is fully loaded on its first 3-day tour in South Gippsland, a great tour of scenic hill country.
(http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/46995/2583417380074746151S600x600Q85.jpg) (http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2583417380074746151IpQhvk)
Hi, Padrone,
Looking very nice in yellow colour and really visible. Once I've read in one touring guide that it's much safer from the possible theft point of view to have bight bike. Easy to search for :)
My usuall question: what size is it?
And what exactly do you mean by saving some money on getting a complete bike shipped?
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Sorry, it's me again .Just stupid question
It really could be the alternative - to buy the frame and build it up .
How did you build the Rohloff into the wheel?
And the main problem as for me is availability of all the high level components in the part of World you live in.
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Only just finished listening to St David of Attenborough relating one of his life stories about the South Gippsland Giant Earth Worm. Though as thick as your thumb and up to 13 feet long, not seen above ground, so you should be safe.
One of my friends on the tour claimed that a subtle groaning noise we heard was the sound of the giant earthworms moving through the soil. Not sure whether that was true or just someone's groaning stomache :o :D
Cedric, the frame size is 565L, just right for me. As for the build work - I got the wheels built up by my local bike shop, the rest of it I did all myself. I'm fairly handy with most bike maintenance and building work. Most of the components were bought on-line from SJS and other Eurpean bike shops. The price advantage of doing it this way comes partly from savings on the cost of our GST tax for any imported bike (there is a $1000 limit before customs bothers chasing GST), and also the price for bike parts, and many other consumer goods, here in Australia is outrageously high. I save 30-60% by buying from Wiggle or bike24 and that often includes shipping.
I priced buying the Thorn Nomad from SJS and it would have cost me ~$4200 plus GST (10%). My costs for the frame, parts and wheel builds was $3800, so I saved a fair bit.
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The price advantage of doing it this way comes partly from savings on the cost of our GST tax for any imported bike (there is a $1000 limit before customs bothers chasing GST),
Hi,
Just connected with local parcel service (EMS - partner of Parcel Force in Ukraine) and found out that the threshold for deliveries without duty is below 200 EUR, and everything that is above that sum will be charged with 45% custom duty. [/b] Part of it would be compensated by UK VAT. but it is only 17% or something + delivery cost.
I'm impressed.
Even if I would start with frameset. that's much.
The idea told above to bring ihe bike to any of nearby countreis and then pick it up somehow - the only reasonable choice for me.
Cedric.