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Title: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: humedavid on March 27, 2017, 06:59:31 AM
Not mine

https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/thorn-nomad-touring-bike/1226730247 (https://www.gumtree.com/p/bicycles/thorn-nomad-touring-bike/1226730247)
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: bobs on March 27, 2017, 07:05:12 AM
I thought it was a great buy until I saw it had a Shimano Alpine hub.
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: humedavid on March 27, 2017, 07:20:10 AM
Happens!  :D
That's why I put it in the title.
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: bobs on March 27, 2017, 08:01:19 AM
Missed that,  too early in the morning.
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: Danneaux on March 27, 2017, 08:28:31 AM
Lots to see in the details here!

The four cable guides under the top tube appear to be open, the housing secured by cable ties. A bit different from my larger 590M Nomad, which uses five through-guides. Did Thorn make a switch after my 2012 production? Perhaps to better accommodate rear hydraulic disc brakes?

There seems to be some variation in Nomad cable guides over time. For example, the chainstay Rohloff cable housing guides on mine are the same J-hook style used on the S&S Nomad, though my frame is not separable.

Bike's black, but the fork's green. Wonder if this is a replacement due to crash damage or a later replacement for a sus-fork?

Nice reflective stripes on the mudguards.

Best,

Dan.
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: in4 on March 27, 2017, 01:36:48 PM
I think this is or was for sale on eBay quite recently. 
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: David Simpson on March 27, 2017, 02:37:38 PM
The four cable guides under the top tube appear to be open, the housing secured by cable ties. A bit different from my larger 590M Nomad, which uses five through-guides. Did Thorn make a switch after my 2012 production? Perhaps to better accommodate rear hydraulic disc brakes?

There seems to be some variation in Nomad cable guides over time. For example, the chainstay Rohloff cable housing guides on mine are the same J-hook style used on the S&S Nomad, though my frame is not separable.

I believe that the X version of the Nomad frame had open guides for the brake cables in order to better accommodate hydraulic brakes. I'll need to check my older Nomad brochure to be sure.

The X version was intended to be a lighter-weight Nomad, and had smaller-diameter frame tubing. Unfortunately it did not sell as well as Thorn had hoped, and was discontinued.

- DaveS
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: Danneaux on March 27, 2017, 03:15:40 PM
Sounds right, Dave. It seemed familiar, yet...not, as there are no examples in current brochures.  It seems a logical pairing as a closeout build with an Alfine.

Well remembered, I think.  :)

If it was a closeout,  it might even explain the oddly colored fork.

All the best,

Dan.
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: gebeesley on April 10, 2017, 06:34:54 PM
Hey guys,

Were cycling from Alaska to Argentina next month via the great divide route.

We love adventure but dont know too much about bikes (looking forward to learning though).

What would you think about this bikes suitability for that?

Why were people excited about this until they saw the shimano Alfine 11 speed rear hub? Is that a bad one?

Would love to hear what bike and set up you would take if you were doing the same journey

Thanks very much
G
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: martinf on April 10, 2017, 07:34:12 PM
Personally, I wouldn't trust an Alfine 11 for a long-distance tour.

I would recommend either :

Rohloff - mostly quite reliable, but you might have to send it back to Germany for replacement if it does go wrong.
Derailleur equipped bike - substantially more maintenance, but spares are fairly easy to find.
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: Pavel on April 10, 2017, 09:10:21 PM
I second Martin's thoughts. Except for the second part ... Rohloff or bust ... life is too short for third best, except for Anto.   ;). Just get the best and be done with it. I mean, you bought a Thorn, right?
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: humedavid on May 07, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Would this be hard to convert to a Rohloff bike ? I happen to have a Rohloff wheel from another Raven.
Cable routing, dropouts I guess.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: JimK on May 07, 2017, 04:49:15 PM
I think that frame was built for a Rohloff & then just built up with the Shimano. It should be easy to switch to a Rohloff!
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: Danneaux on May 07, 2017, 09:54:43 PM
Quote
Would this be hard to convert to a Rohloff bike ? I happen to have a Rohloff wheel from another Raven.
David, the one thing to watch for would be if the donor wheel is configured for internal shifting (i.e. from a Raven or Raven Tour instead of a Nomad), as the Nomad requires the EX (external) shift-box. The conversion can be made by SJS Cycles for a pretty reasonable cost...certainly when compared to a whole new Rohloff-hubbed wheel.

Best,

Dan.
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: macspud on May 08, 2017, 04:06:16 PM
I don't see why you couldn't use your Rolhoff hub with an internal shifter? You wouldn't be using the disc mount as you don't have a disc wheel, You would have to use the brake post cable mount, https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/brakes/rohloff-cable-guide-13-deg-type-to-fit-v-brake-boss-8259-8259/  which you already have on your Raven Tour. You could get Rohloff Cable Manager Kit https://www.rohloff.de/de/produkte/speedhub/cable-manager-kit/index.html to help keep the the cable rerouting tidy.

Otherwise, if you wanted to convert the wheel, you'd need a Rohloff EX Transfer Box https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hub-spares/rohloff-ex-transfer-box-8216/ and a Rohloff External Cable Box https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hub-spares/rohloff-cable-box-external-8212/ and cables https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/cables/rohloff-shifter-cable-set-18m-2-x-11-mm-inners-housing-8268/
Title: Re: Gumtree : Thorn Nomad Alfine X540M
Post by: humedavid on May 09, 2017, 09:40:07 PM
Thank you guys, very useful info there!