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Community => Cycle Tours => Topic started by: in4 on April 28, 2015, 06:55:14 PM
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Anyone used a Nordisk tent as per these?:
http://www.cheaptents.com/acatalog/ultralight-tents.html
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Hi Ian!
Despite the site name, some of those are not cheap tents, at least not in Danneauxville. :o They do look nice, however. :)
Looking at the company website, this Danish firm seems to have been around for a good while...
http://www.nordisk.eu/nordisk/since-1901/
...their designs have won a number of awards...
http://www.nordisk.eu/nordisk/awards/
...and reviews are generally very favorable:
http://www.cheaptents.com/blog/nordisk-telemark-2-lw-tent-review/
Here's a review of one much like a Hilleberg Akto: http://www.tgomagazine.co.uk/gearreview/new-review-nordisk-telemark-2-ultra-light-two-man-tent
https://blogpackinglight.wordpress.com/2013/05/04/nordisk-telemark-2-reader-review/
Hope something in here helps...
Best,
Dan.
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expensive ???
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Anyone used a Nordisk tent as per these?:
http://www.cheaptents.com/acatalog/ultralight-tents.html
Yes I have one and it is a fabulous lightweight small pack sized tent. It is also massive for a 'small' tent. See pictures of mine ...
John
http://www.pbase.com/leftpoole/nordisk
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Ive found a review here:
http://www.tgomagazine.co.uk/gearreview/new-review-nordisk-telemark-2-ultra-light-two-man-tent
Many thanks for all posts. Homework underway. :)
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Ive found a review here:
http://www.tgomagazine.co.uk/gearreview/new-review-nordisk-telemark-2-ultra-light-two-man-tent
Many thanks for all posts. Homework underway. :)
yeah most people reckon it's a akto copy ,i hated the akto only good thing about it it pitched quick, for the price it was useless the designer got away with murder but the sales team won the gold cup for conning people into thinking this is the best one man tent on the planet.
i was talking to a backpacer adventurer few months back he used the vango banshee 3 and give it ten out of ten great tent at a great price.
i certainly wont be spending big money on a tent ,(Well i dont have money ) so thats one less worry ::)
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I've used the Vango Banshee 200 the past 3 years - though would not like to use it as a 2man unless your very good friends, and can't be faulted. Only negative is it's not freestanding
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I've used the Vango Banshee 200 the past 3 years - though would not like to use it as a 2man unless your very good friends, and can't be faulted. Only negative is it's not freestanding
Me too.
Used it in Scotland.
Say no more!!
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If I had the money for an expensive new tent I still think the Vango Nitro Lite 200+ is a really good option, even allowing them for the almost completely inexcusable use of "lite" (must not start to rant...) ;)
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my own tent is great except for the weight 3 pole tunnell 4 season tent.(mountain hardware gt2) i would gladly swap it for the vango banshee 200 only because i heard the vango is light ish easy to pitch.
a 2.5 kg tent i would concider to be lightweight but it would have to tick a few boxes before i'de buy.like
easy pitch
pack small
pitch all in one
loads of room .
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tents i'm happiest in my golite hex/SL3, need a single ripstop nest from oookworks or this http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/shelters-1/WB117.html (http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/shelters-1/WB117.html) to make it perfect, then me and the bike undercover at well under 2kilos ;D
but take a look at the range here http://www.bergzeit.co.uk/outdoor-tents/ (http://www.bergzeit.co.uk/outdoor-tents/) if your still not happy with the ones youve tried/bought
they also have a pretty good range of helmets that those who preach about the "benefits" might like ::)
btw the nordisk Svalbard 1 looks pretty good in the wind tunnel, considering it's only £130 and 1.7kilo :o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nPrvXpDSsg&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nPrvXpDSsg&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
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If I had the money for an expensive new tent I still think the Vango Nitro Lite 200+ is a really good option, even allowing them for the almost completely inexcusable use of "lite" (must not start to rant...) ;)
I agree with this as I too have one! It is lightweight, very roomy and not too expensive.
It can be used all year round.
Regards,
John
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yeah most people reckon it's a akto copy ,i hated the akto only good thing about it it pitched quick, for the price it was useless the designer got away with murder but the sales team won the gold cup for conning people into thinking this is the best one man tent on the planet.
i was talking to a backpacer adventurer few months back he used the vango banshee 3 and give it ten out of ten great tent at a great price.
i certainly wont be spending big money on a tent ,(Well i dont have money ) so thats one less worry ::)
Anto!
Multitudes of people all over the World rate Hilleberg Akto as a great tent.
You I am afraid are in a small minority although I find an Akto too awkward for use now, but that is because Im older and not anywhere near as supple as I used to be.
Getting dressed etc in an Akto is difficult if suffering ailments, but for most the tent is brilliant!
Regards,
John.
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John i neary frooze to death in it when i camped in the mourn mountain mind you there was a storm blowing but i still though i would be cozy in my very expensive akto ,huh anything but.
i will take a look at the vango nitro lite 200+. mind u have to sell my own tent first.
good advice anyhow .
anto.
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is this the tent your talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_-qHzP_1Ik.
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Not sure if there is a difference between a nitro and a nitro lite, but the 200+ has a large porch.
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is this the tent your talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_-qHzP_1Ik.
Mine http://www.pbase.com/leftpoole/nitrolite200
http://www.pbase.com/leftpoole/image/157295865
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hdmw-lnmuE
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John that looks to be one sweet tent but i reckon its way out of my price range,thanks for the photos and video.your set up is exactly what im after.
lets hope you get plenty more trips in this year fingers crossed for you.
i got out today for 17 miles first spin in 5 weeks ;)
cheers
anto.
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this is a great looking tent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrFKTZbVMWE
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Nice looking tent, for sure, jags, though the argument in the vid that it's on the Gear List of da Dook of Edinburruh didn't cut much ice with me--only Dook I nod to, figuratively of course, is the Iron Dook, your man Wellesley.
But back to the tents: The Nordisk was interesting, and ultra-light, but bloody pricey at 450 quid, and at that price, I'd expect no design flaws.
Last week, I collected my Tarptent Moment DW from a friend in Manhattan who kindly agreed to serve as my PO Box (so that I avoid postage to Canada & 13% sales tax here). Here's the item: http://www.tarptent.com/momentdw.html (http://www.tarptent.com/momentdw.html) This weighs in at 34 oz, a whisker over one kilo, and I'm going to pitch it for the first time later this week -- will post a photo, and add a review in a few months' time. It can be made into a free-standing tent, and better able to handle high winds and snow, by adding a fore-and-aft alu bracing pole. That's an extra 12 oz, not a lot of weight for the additional rigidity. The whole lot, with the optional bracing pole, cost me USD 328, not a bad price at all, I thought, as I expect it will last me as long as I'm able to use it (another 30 years or so!!??) By spending another $50-60, I could have had carbon poles all round, but my Scots ancestors forbade that as a Frill.
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Just watched the video on that tarp tent .
man i just dont like it pitching the nner is way to much hassle imho.
i hate a tent that the fly doesnt go all the way to the ground.
nah its just to much like the akto for me i wont be buying a tarp tent thats for certain.
sorry john but im very hard to please when it come to tents.
anto.
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Clearly a tense conversation, anto ;-) Will let you know how it goes. - J.
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Hi,
My friend has the Vango Banshee 300 and it is indeed a great tent. I have the Vango Omega 350 which is exceptionally large for 1 person but I like my comforts. Yes, it is heavy at just under 6kg, but I can fit my bike in the porch area which was the prime reason for buying it in the first place. That way I know that my bike is relatively safe when I am away cycle camping. I am also a very light sleeper so I would hear someone coming into the tent. Plus I chain the bike to my legs (only joking :)). Good tent though if you don't mind the weight.
Thanks,
Richard :)
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John i love the nallo gt2 but not unless i win the lottery ::)
Richard i have a good tent but i find it to heavy 4kg that the reason im looking for a lighter less bulkier tent.
aw no big deal really if i dont find what im looking for As Bono might say ::)
i'll keep the one i have.
jags.
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This weighs in at 34 oz, a whisker over one kilo
John your Tarptent Moment DW is even lighter than you think at 34 oz thats actually 964 grams, so you can brag that your tent is sub kilo. ;)
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John, I've owned 9 different tents over the last three years, as well as a Hennessy Hammock, in my quest to find a tent that I would be happy with for all of what I do. I hated most of them, for one reason or another, but mostly for how poorly the tents designed nowadays are so fragile in real use, and how poorly implemented the details are.
The first lesson I learned is that one needs at least two tents. A bit like bikes, one design can't do it all. I sold most of my tents off, or returned them after about a year (that is the nice thing about paying way too much and dealing with REI :D ) but still have four tents.
The last experiment lasted the shortest time. I bought the wild country Hoolie 3, (Same design and build quality as the Vango tents, I believe) wanting a tent to go car camping with the dog in as well as being able to carry it in my Carradice on my bike. I'd rather carry more tent and either skimp elsewhere or just carry some weight. I want to be comfy. The Hoolie seemed right in all the ways I wanted as a cheap Hilleberg but with the same limitation that most of the Hillies have in that they are designed for cold weather, and I live in a fetid swamp here in North Carolina. But in no way was it a Hilleberg substitute. Every step of the way, in so many small details it fell short. (details furnished upon request :) ) So I slept in it once and sent it back. I am hoping that I am learning not to spend a ton of extra money by trying to save some - but I seem to be a slow learner.
So I was going to buy the Hilleberg Anjan, or maybe the Nalo, or maybe the Unna; I really could not decide if I had to make it just one tent!
So I though I would try one more time to buy a tent that I might be as happy in as a Hilleberg in but not spend that much money on. I went to Henry Shire's site and after much agony between the Tarp Tent Double moment and Cloudburst 3 I finally chose the Cloudburst 3 mostly because I know that I will buy two tents in the end, to cover all my needs and the Cloudburst 3 along with a one man later will be more "opposite ends" if you know what I mean. The double moment however is the tent that I think is the perfect one tent for my needs.
I've camped twice now it the Cloudburst 3 (C3 from now on) and finally a tent which has exceeded my expectations. Unless I move back to Canada or Europe and have to deal with completely different conditions, I think in fact I have found the design objectives and quality standards I've been searching for and now - no need to look at a Hilleberg any more (though I will, constantly :) )
I guess it is like underwear in that it is personal and each has their own preference but the tarptent C3 weighs in at 51 oz ( 1.46 kg) which is just a bit less than advertised. That is for shelter for me and my dog, or me and my daughter with luxurious extra space. That is unbelievable. As I don't hike I don't care too much for super light weight, but I'll take it. I want a tent that stays cool on hot muggy nights and the ventilation options are as good as it gets with tarptents. I cared a lot about being able to put a tent up in hard rain and staying dry and one I could take down in a very short time. The Hoolie took me about15 minutes to put up and about 12 to take down. The C3 I can have up or down in about 3 minutes. Marvelous design with how it can be staked out with four pegs and the adjustability of the lines. I think my tent quest is over. :)
Now to tackle Hammock camping one more time. Hammocks are kind of like Recumbent cycling I think. Much to recomend the idea, but much misunderstood at the same time. I just came back from three days camping with the dog and saw how nice a good hammock might be, if I had the skills. I guess the perfect kit is my weakness. :D
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I see that I've kind of steered this topic away from the original intent - sorry. But on the Nordisk tents, I looked at them about two months ago, looking for something like a Hilleberg but different at the same time. I found them very expensive for no apparent gain, and with even more of a cold weather only approach, so the temptation did not last long.
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Pavel just looked at that tarp tent on utube.
man if i bought it i would burn it honest to god.
a fella would freeze to death in that thing ,i think your going to have to keep searching for a better tent .
my mountain hardware would be every bit as good as the expensive hille nallo 2 gt only difference it weights a lot more and a bit more bulkie. ::to me the best design of tent is the TPee like the wiki up 2 or 3. how can a fella argue with the indian nation those boys new how to camp properly. ;)
jags
(who's a total expert in all things tents)
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yeah ... I would freeze in dat thing fer sure ... if the tent temperatures at night were not near 88 degrees ( 32C ) on a good cool night, with 700 percent humidity, round here and in Texas where we plan to camp for three weeks this summer. But I used to live, camp and canoe in Northern Ontario for 20 years ... so there I might burn it for warmth and then crawl into my Hilleberg, so I don't worry bout the rain during setup and about the wind tearing it open in the middle of the night, like those those Mountain hardware tents tend to. ;)
Pavel
(who is a super duper expert - especially in wishful thinking! :D )
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;D ;D ;D
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Pavel, you're right about the "more than one tent" approach. I bought the Moment DW as a one-man (me) tent for cycling. For other uses--canoeing, motorcycle camping, two-person camping--I use my MSR Hubba Hubba. It's worked well for five years, and is of reasonable weight & bulk, at just over 2 kg. It came at a reasonable price too. There are some limits to its design -- it really needs fly-sheet venting (which the Tarptent has), and I'd prefer something which could be pitched as fly+inner in the rain, like the Hilleberg and the Tarptent. I compensate for these shortcomings by using a sil-nylon tarp because the weight isn't critical. The Moment DW is light enough that I can even take along a small tarp as well, and still be under 1.5 kg total.
There are always trade-offs among weight, durability, price, space, and planned use. I've been lucky that I've had reasonably good tents, with no disasters, or even major hassles. The tradeoffs have generally worked for me--but then, I've not done mid-winter camping, nor even had to contend with high-veld thunderstorms in a tent. At this stage of life, I'm looking for designs that seem to address the issues of weight, fly venting, and inner+fly pitching, at a reasonable price. I don't need a 4-season tent, or an expedition tent.
Am planning a short trip in the hills NW of Ottawa in early June, so we'll see how this ultra-light gear works in buggy country (that's black-fly country, not horse-and-buggy country...) Look for a report in a month or so.
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don't think pavel is talking to me :'(
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Jags ... You're one of the best reasons to drop by this forum. I realize that no person is perfect, and thus occasionally one disagrees with me :D but that the best part! In fact I value you so much that here ... let me buy you a virtual beer. ;D
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Pavel i was just winding you up honest .
i can safely say im probably the worst camper on the planet :'(
but i'm a tryer if nothing else. love cycling more road than cycle touring but yeah i do love touring as well.dont mind me buddy i'm a feckin geek like the craic ;)
jags.
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I must be missing something here?
I don't think a tent will keep you warm. It'll certainly deflect the rain and wind etc. I'd be more concerned about a quality sleeping bag/ mat combination with warm clothing.
I can sit in my relatively well insulated house and fairly freeze. Now, if I was to dress sensibly I'd be fine.
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Up to a point, yes. But the body gives out its own heat - think how stuffy a small room crowded with people gets. A small tent has less volume of air to heat and so will keep you warmer. If the inner tent is mostly mesh then the effective volume is that of the flysheet and therefore greater, not to mention the draughts. If the inner is normal fabric there is also a slight double-glazing effect - at least, I have always found double skin tents easier to stay warm in than single skin ones of the same size.
If you camp in Scotland or Ireland or such places that is a serious consideration.!
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i think i said before i camped in the mournes in my akto during a bad winter's night nearly froze to death ,the clown next to me in his vango stayed ward all night ,mores the pity if theres was any justice in the world he should have been struck dead ;)
anyway that story is for another day.
i think I'll write a book on tents and loonies I've met in my life quiet a few. ::)
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Jags .... have you discovered the bourgeoisie concept of using a sleeping bag? :D
There are two line os though about this, the tent helping keep one warm. Some feel that the smaller the tent in combination with a well designed for cold weather tent keeps one warmer because the air space in the tent will be a few degrees warmer. That makes sense, but at the same time it brings its own problems where the bodies moist air condenses and one looses some of the performance of the insulation. Of course real men use down. :)
The Akto is there with the best of them as far as both a small space to heat up and well designed to let out condensation but not let in drafts. Both of these are reasons that I don't own an Akto. I find it confining. I find it hot.
That leads me to suspect that the tent was not the problems Jags ... but the lack of beer consumption as large beer quantities are well known to increase the metabolic rate and keep one sleeping soundly all night long. Well, at least that is my anecdotal tale of success in all tent conditions. Try it, y'all. ;)
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...yebbut I would then have to get up in the middle of the night to get rid of all that beer :o!
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PAVEL take a look at this blog.
http://www.cycletourstore.co.uk/lighten-your-tent-weight/.
he totally convinced me the vango banshee 200 is the perfect touring tent.
anto.
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PAVEL take a look at this blog.
http://www.cycletourstore.co.uk/lighten-your-tent-weight/.
he totally convinced me the vango banshee 200 is the perfect touring tent.
anto.
Anto,
Every tent on the market is perfect-for somebody.
You need to ride ride ride a bike first.
Then work work work or rob second.
Afterwards any tent will do.
Best tent is the one i am using now!
Which is that?
Well its..... much lighter than yours.
Lightweight means lightweight-not 4 or 3 or 2 Kg but 1 or less kg!
It is unfortunate in this life the the lighter a tent gets, the more it costs, but once upon a time the tent got smaller too.
Now for loads of money it is possible to get lightweight and a decent size too.
If as you say you do not like Hilleberg Akto, then I am sorry to tell you, that possibly you should not list camping as a hobby!
Enjoy reading, whining and then gets writing.
Have some fun like I do when times (which you know about) are bad.
John
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yip i can safely say and i said it before im useless at camping and touring but sure God loves a tryer. ;D ;D
i reckon that banshee would be good enough for this kid for all the times i'll use it its not worth me spending loads of cash on a very expensive tent and as for the bike clubtour not unless i come into loads of dosh £1600 for the basic bike :o.
anyway glad your back on form keep the flag flying.
anto.
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yip i can safely say and i said it before im useless at camping and touring but sure God loves a tryer. ;D ;D
i reckon that banshee would be good enough for this kid for all the times i'll use it its not worth me spending loads of cash on a very expensive tent and as for the bike clubtour not unless i come into loads of dosh £1600 for the basic bike :o.
anyway glad your back on form keep the flag flying.
anto.
Anto,
Im not back on form by a long way, but just trying....
John
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you'll get there no worries keep the faith boy start planning your next trip.i read that cycle touring festival was fantastic pity i missed out on it ah wel maybe next yea.
put that in your diary ;)
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Jags ... there is no ventilation in that vango coffin and it weighs close to double of my tarptent. For the conditions that the vango may be good for ... there is a hilleberg that I think is far better. The Akto. ;)
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nah hated that akto im looking at one now on facebook going for 100 euro its the MSR ZOID 2 ma n tent.guy selling it said its never been used and cost him 200$.
still think the vango is a fair good tent and god price.
Pavel post a few pics of your set up ;)
anto
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nah hated that akto im looking at one now on facebook going for 100 euro its the MSR ZOID 2 ma n tent.guy selling it said its never been used and cost him 200$.
still think the vango is a fair good tent and god price.
Pavel post a few pics of your set up ;)
anto
Anto,
You never listen, do you?
Go without until you can buy a decent size lightweight. Why bother buying a heavy tent just because you can afford.
How are you doing with that dream bike you bought?
Smile please!
John ;D
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Dream bike is a pleasure to ride .im only just back cycling since thursday 33 miles and 35 friday none today as the RAS was finishing in town fantastic crowd turned out to watch the finish. ;)
going out in the morning on my carbon dream machine ;D ;D.
i do listen believe me but i also like to hunt for what ever intrest me be it a tent a bike whatever sure it keeps a fella ticking over ;)
anto.
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just back from shopping in aldi with the wife oh what joy.
they have a great 1 man ten for 28 euro 8) if i had 28 euro i would have bough it although maybe not ,an adventure cycle tourer like me needs the very best in tents and bike cant be going taking chances at my level of adventure. ;)
they also (aldi) have lovely honey waffles great for a snack.
anto.