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Community => Member's Gallery => Topic started by: Istanbul_Tea on December 05, 2003, 01:35:31 PM
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Thought I'd share an intimate photo of the birth of my eXp bicycle... Isn't she pretty??
http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=8573&stc=1
I am a PROUD Daddy!! [^]
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Ok, I made a link to another forum with the pic there!! Geee, that was involved!!
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I saw the pic. But that is not a baby just yet, it is only an embryo so you cannot call yourself a daddy already.It needs to grow and have wheels and lots of other things which will make it a usefull member of our society! Anyhow, why do think it is a 'she'? Didn't you notice the crossbar?! Regards, Mario
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Don't you see the BB??!! She's absolutely a "She"!! ; -)
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I am probably too young to know what a BB is. Or is it something typically American we English wouldn't understand? Discuss! (or at least explain) mario
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I'm not going to claim my knowledge on the subject is as good as many people's, but isn't there something funny going on with the fork arrangement? Or is this how you set up your bikes on that side of the pond?
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I just had another look - you are right!When I glimpsed it first I got stuck on the gender problem and overlooked a fairly vital issue. When it is grown up will it be a dual-purpose monocycle? Whatever, it certainly made me laugh.
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No, you're both wrong... isn't it obvious?? I've had Robin set it up so that I can spin cotton whilst touring.
BTW, BB=Bottom bracket-fairly straight ahead wouldn't you say?
:D
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
No, you're both wrong... isn't it obvious?? I've had Robin set it up so that I can spin cotton whilst touring.
Oh ... I thought it was set up like that so you could tour above and below the equator.
Color? (Or should I say 'Colour'?)
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Black as black can be.
In other words... black.
With gold decals.
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
Black as black can be.
In other words... black.
With gold decals.
Black and gold. Tasteful opulence.
For the inevitable chips and dings: Testors Gloss Black Enamel works fine. Lay in a supply before you take your baby out of the box. Walmart has 1/4 and 1 oz. bottles in the toy department.
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"Tasteful opulence"
Thanks, I agree.
As far as touching up goes... not sure Testers will work... I am going the route of powdercoating for bombproofing durability.
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How many black tester bottles do you need when the baby comes out of the box and do need more or fewer of them if it hangs on the wall? Did you not know that babies are always powdercoated? But the colour black is wonderfull particularly with gold. Such bombproof elegance!!! I've got a black Brompton, a green hybrid and a bright blue Moulton.((I hope the Thorn[;)] people don't throw me off the Forum now.))
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Did I say something wrong or why is nobody taking to me anymore?
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You aren't a Thorn rider... leave!
Just kidding, we still love your wit and insight. :)
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What a relief. Btw, I meant 'talking' not 'taking'... Since you have furthered my education once before (BB) is NYC New York City or County?
I honestly regret that I'm not riding a Thorn cycle and I would have dearly loved a Nomad, but not feeling too sorry for myself, the fact is that I'm slightly handicapped and have difficulties getting over the crossbar. Therefore the Brompton for pottering round town and the Moulton for longer rides. As soon as Thorn produce a Nomad with a flip-up crossbar I'll buy it! Now there is a challenge.
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NYC=New York City...
:)
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Thank you, also for the smiley. I keep on reading that nobody in the States cycles. That can't be true, judging your and and your forum friends' enthusiasm as far as cycles are concerned. Here in Europe the best facilities for cycling apart from Holland must be Germany, I believe. Where I live things are slowly getting better but you still find that on an bike you are not the best loved person in the world. Outside the rush hour you can pile your machine on the train for free and go to the rather beautiful countryside for a day's riding on or off road, which I do (only on!)
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Actually there are quite a few Americans who love cycling but sadly by and large... the USA is still obsessed with the car.
What you speak of in Europe(Germany)is the envy of many American bicyclists... that's why we typically make our way to Europe to do some touring at some point or another.
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Originally posted by Mario
As soon as Thorn produce a Nomad with a flip-up crossbar I'll buy it! Now there is a challenge.
I'm sure if you talk to Robin Thorn, he can arrange something for you. They are very very helpful at Thorn Cycles and will go out of their way to help you.
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Hoogie-
I can 2nd that as well... Robin & Co. have been fantastic with helping me out so far. Of course we'll see in another few months when they grow sick and tired of my constant emails with questions. ; )
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Thank you for your worldwide praise of Robin,I'm sure he is a very nice person but at the moment my creditcard glares at me with a distinct 'not another cycle' look and shows some fraying at the edges. It has not quite recovered from the purchase of the Moulton.
Last Summer I visited Germany, regrettably without cycle but traveled extensively by train - along the Rhine and the Danube. The weather was brilliant and there were cycle paths along each of the rivers. Riders of all ages were out enjoying themselves and I sat yellow and air- conditioned in the train - Germans go that colour when they are envious, and when in Rome... I certainly did not see anybody out with that peculiar haircut, the mullet.And (almost)no Lycra in sight!
English cyclists, or at least most of them, appear to be unable to pedal unless they are fully clad in garments of that glaringly colourful fabric, even on a leisurely ride on a Sunday afternoon for example.
Enough of Nation bashing.
I could do with spell checker on this forum - not being a native (English) speaker I find that my spelling turns out sometimes somewhat exotic. So please don't be too hard if you find something stupid which slipped through even after the third reading.
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Mario, your speeling is groat!
J/K of course... and I never presumed we were "nation bashing" anyway... I thought we were poking fun at all our oddities of being part of the Human condition.
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I was just going to ask what groat is and then I got it! See no sense homur either,I haven't.
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
NYC=New York City...
:)
I recently saw a list (have misplaced the link) entitled, "You know your're a NYC bike rider when...". One entry was "When you know you're going to be busy the first Sunday in May".
Well, are you?
Any due date on the 'baby'?
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Robin says the "baby" is due by the first of the new year! I've already purchased the stroller, crib and diapers!!
No, the 5 Boro Bike Tour is a dick-fest... too many cyclists, too many people and way too many accidents happen as a result of both!
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
No, the 5 Boro Bike Tour is a dick-fest... too many cyclists, too many people and way too many accidents happen as a result of both!
I agree, but my teenage kids insist that we go. And since there are so few things that they'll do with their old man these days, I give in. What's a dad to do? Enjoy them while they're small, while you can lash them into the trailer and go where you want to go.
However, it is amusing to watch riders with cell phones fall over because they can't talk, brake and get out of their pedals all at the same time.
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Kids... what can a man do? I know with our 4 year old daughter the more I do the more she thinks Mommy is No.#1 but yet I still do my best... my wife tells me that someday I'll be appreciated for my good deeds and that she(my wife)will be the brunt of our daughters scorn... hmmmm.
Your kids will probably love the tour... just be careful amoung all the riders who don't have a clue.
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(http://www.sjscycles.com/images/otherimages/ExpFrame2.jpg)
(http://www.sjscycles.com/images/otherimages/ExpFrame3.jpg)
(http://www.sjscycles.com/images/otherimages/ExpFrame1.jpg)
Hi, here's the pics of your new frame! [:)]
Andrew
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All I can say is, SWEEEEET!!!
You've made my day!!
Is an eXp decal going to be on it or do I have to explain to people that it really, truly is an eXp?!?!
Thanks a ton Andrew for the pics!!
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Hi
you'll need to explain! By default, the paintshop leave black frames with fewer graphics, I must admit we didn't give specific instructions either way. The downtube graphic IS in paint as we'd hoped.
We will be adding Reynolds graphics to it on building.
I need to mention here that the reason you and i are having this public debate about your bike is due to some stupidity to do with emails, SPAM, junk senders etc.
Regards, Robin
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Robin-
Thanks for replying. Debate, naw... conversation!! How can we figure out the email problem Robin?? I haven't ever heard of this before... all I can guess is something akin to it being a security issue with your browser settings, ISP or a firewall. It's telling that we can email one another through the forum with no problems BUT cannot through our browsers email programs. Do you employ a computer guy for your website, etc? If so, perhaps put the question to him.
Back to the eXp... no problems explaining the model because I actually like the minimalist approach to graphics truth be told. In my mind-this bike is ALL about purpose NOT eye candy(e.g. graphics, etc)and through "purpose" it becomes what, in fact, it is...
A work of Art! To me fashion means dick all... but when something is purpose built/designed AND that build represents craftsmenship... then beauty, form & function become Style. And Style=Art!!
Thanks for the work of art!!
Now, MORE pics... lose the white, generic background and let me see my baby in it's current world(with folks, shop tools, empty cups, etc behind it/around it!!).
Please?? :D
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
Now, MORE pics... lose the white, generic background and let me see my baby in it's current world(with folks, shop tools, empty cups, etc behind it/around it!!).
Please, no. It would destroy my fantasy that my bike was built by enchanted elves with a workshop in a hollow tree.
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LOL, Middle Earth!! Bilbo Thorn!
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(http://www.sjscycles.com/images/otherimages/ExpBuild1.jpg)
The build has started!
Andrew
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Hey look, a happy worker! Could this be one of the elves you speak of, the ones that make magical bikes happen?? and not a pointy ear in sight too!
I guess I would be happy too if I worked in a place that builds such great bikes too.
Those that 'know' bikes will instantly recognise your bike as an eXp ... those that don't instantly recognise it probably don't care about bikes anyway, so no matter how much you explain it to them it won't make any difference anyway ...
Can't wait to see the final result ... My own Nomad project is on hold at present, waiting for some important bits I ordered to arrive.
cheers,
hoogie
timaru/oamaru, new zealand
home of middle earth!
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WHEEE!!!
I am VERY excited!! Who is the lucky man with that smile on his mug anyway?? Andrew is that you?
I know what Santa is bringing me for X-Mas this year!!
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Ah Ha! A little searching and I've unearthed that man!!
That would be Adrian I bet!
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Just looking through this with my son and we came to the piccy of your frame. 'Ooooh, that's nice', he said. He's only 2 1/2!
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Chris-
You're obviously raising a child with great and expensive tastes. Good job!
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The build-up to date...
(http://www.sjscycles.com/images/otherimages/eXpBuildUp06012003.jpg)
Andrew [:)]
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Robin, Andrew(and of course, Adrian!)...
Can you say, "That's one bad mojo-rockin', hard knockin', sweet lookin' feet hookin' ride!"?? [;)][8D][^][:D]
Wow, I think I just pee'd myself!!
Is that the additional stem in the plastic bag sitting in the bottle cage?
You know I need 2 more pics...
1. From the otherside-but only after the bar-ends are on.
2. And one more pic with the Thorn crew standing next to her so I can get it converted over to a print for my Thorn eXp bike-build photo album I am creating.
Please?!
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Yes, that's the stems, the pedals are hanging from the bars, and i see Adrian DID select the correct tyres!
I'll see if Andrew can fit in another photoshoot, and add a picture of Andy B (our designer) Himself, and me, just to put you off @ the last minute!
By the way, where's the picture of YOU to gee us up?
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Adrian-being the smart man he is... knew that secretly I was a Schwable Marathon Man and that-to quote Pancho Villa-"I don't need no stinking Pasela's".
How much extra are you charging me Robin for the pink "Man-Onion's Guard" on the top tube?
You want a pic of me, ok... you asked for it. Give me a sec to find one...
(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/3fafc5de_11c68/bc/Stuff/__sr_/SC_!.jpg?ph1hD__Ac3Z29zvF)
Me, upon hearing that my eXp was done and Robin telling me the price!! j/k [;)][8D][:0]
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HEY!!! NOT FAIR!!!! How come Istanbull Tea gets a Thron logo on his seatpost, and I only got a plain seapost??? [:(][:(][:(][:(]
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Hoogie-
Probably because I am a distant relation of Robin's... my moms great aunts uncles third nephew twice removed was Robin's dads uncles sisters first cousin on his stepdads third wifes second nephews side.
See, it PAYS to have connections!
Seriously though... maybe it's because of having the eXp made for me which costs a bit more, or perhaps they had none the day yours was shipped out to you, or perhaps yours fell off somewhere over Europe and there is a smallish European man-child running around screaming, "Mummy, I'm blind, I'm blind!!!!!" because your Thorn seatpost logo fell from the plane directly onto both his eyes. Lets hope that the Thorn's ran out as the final scenario chills me to the bone with sadness and vague feelings of, "Why OH Why Dear Lord MUST THE CHILDREN SUFFER?!?!"
BTW Hoogie... Thanks for all the amazing comments and appreciative "Ooooooh's" and Ahhhhhh's" about my eXp. Glad the Thorn seatpost logo was just an aside on your behalf. BOINK [:0][B)][^]
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Also... maybe you need to call Robin about this. As I re-read your post I see that we may be talking about a different item... I assumed you were talking about a Thorn seatpost logo when in fact I NOW see that you're inquiring about a-
Thron Seapost.
I feel a little angry myself now...
Robin, where the &*$#%%@&@&@%^!%%@&*&*# is MY Thron Seapost as well?!?!?! I paid for one, I want it! NOW! [^][:D][8D][;)]
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fitted to the frame as shown in the picture.
I've not been following this so excuse me if i missed something!
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Originally posted by Robin Thorn
fitted to the frame as shown in the picture.
I've not been following this so excuse me if i missed something!
Is Ok ... I was just grizzling that the seatpost that was with my Thorn Nomad didn't have a Thorn logo on it when i got it ... [:(][:(][:(][:(]
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Hi guys
Hoogie - I have a seat post with THORN logo stamped on it, but its not my other one, [xx(] and Istanbul Tea - I think that is my NOMAD just creeping into the picture frame awaiting collection, because it has black handlebar stem thingy and handlebar ends (cowhorn like thingies) You can tell i am very technical[;)]
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IS there a difference between a THRON seapost and a THORN seatpost. I presume that one of them is the one with the very small saddle?!
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Or perhaps a small sail?
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Or maybe just one Kiwi with computer problems ... worked it out to be PEBKAC ...
Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
BUT!!! I still don't have a THORN logo on my seatpost though[:(]
have solved the front deraileur issues on the NOMAD though
cheers,
hoogie
timaru/oamaru, new zealand
http://cycletouring.iscool.net
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Cephas
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Originally posted by hoogie
I still don't have a THORN logo on my seatpost though[:(]
Hoogie, I didn't order one in '02 with my Nomad frame, so I'm totaly out of luck. (But I get a stem with the logo.) Is the Thorn seat post something new? I see that over at the on-line shop there is "No Image Available Yet". In desperation, you could print this page, clip out the logo at the top and glue it on.
And to I-Tea: Any word on a delivery date?
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"And to I-Tea: Any word on a delivery date?"
Nope, waiting for a call from Robin & Andy about a sizing issue. Guess they went on Holiday!
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
"And to I-Tea: Any word on a delivery date?"
Nope, waiting for a call from Robin & Andy about a sizing issue. Guess they went on Holiday!
Hey I_T, any word on your new eXp??? or are you too busy out there playing with it??? [:)]
Have been racking up a few miles on my Nomad ... am very happy with it indeed ... althoughI do need some better racks and some mudguards!
cheers, hoogie
timaru/oamaru, new zealand
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Hoogie-
Unfortunately I've had to delay the eXp delivery as it seems the Taxman (read- I.R.S.) has taken dispute with our taxes for the last year and-apparently-we owe them additional funds.
Robin & Co. know about this and have graciously delayed my taking receipt of the eXp for the time being.
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That'll teach you not to declare bicycles as dependents. Even if they do have names.
Hang in there.
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
Hoogie-
Unfortunately I've had to delay the eXp delivery as it seems the Taxman (read- I.R.S.) has taken dispute with our taxes for the last year and-apparently-we owe them additional funds.
That's a new one[}:)]
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Originally posted by Istanbul_Tea
Hoogie-
Unfortunately I've had to delay the eXp delivery as it seems the Taxman (read- I.R.S.) has taken dispute with our taxes for the last year and-apparently-we owe them additional funds.
That's a new one[}:)]
What's new about the Govt. f**king something up?
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Hey there IT ...
not being familiar with your political system or your tax system, but it sounds ominous and I wish you a speedy resolution and delivery of your new steed ...
How about listing the build items on it anyway ... we are curious on how you have finally specc'd your eXp ...
cheers,
hoogie
timaru/oamaru, new zealand
next years Kiwi tax forms ...
Q1 "How much did you earn last year?"
Q2 "Send it in!!"
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Will someone please give this orphan a good home?
Its listed over in the online store, in the "Thorn returned & Ex display bikes" section. Sad. [:(]
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Thorn EXP Black with Gold graphics 500L
48H XT tandem hubs on Rhino rims.Schwalbe marathon 26x1.75 tyres blk P55 guards Deore 170mm cranks 44/32/22 rings 11-32 cassette LX V-brakes LX gear mechs & shifters Mk1 comfort bars Thorn carbon bar ends .1x profile 2x carbon bottle cages Terry liberator gel gents saddle.NEVER RIDDEN!
Price: £1,769.00
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Is that IT's bike?
Hmmmmmmmm, thats odd, very odd indeed ..
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Anyone had news what happened? IRS worse that it first appeared? Tour cancelled? Disatisfaction at the realisation the seatpost wasn't a genuine Thron?
Given that our family's plans of a world-tour are slipping away I was holding onto the prospect of vicariously enjoying ITs...
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Hey folks...
Long time since I've been here (or at least it seems like... seeing that I would come here like 78 times per day!!).
Here's the story of the fated eXp purchase...
My wife and me had set aside funds for the purchase of my bike with hers to follow (an eXp as well) within a couple months. Robin & Co. got a deposit from us to begin the process. Nearing the end of that process we received a letter from the IRS stating that we were to be audited... yikes, that's never happened before!! So I took all the financial stuff to my father (he's a retired CPA... accountant for those that don't know) and he said to basically halt all purchases and freeze everything but day to day spending. That spelled the end of the eXp for the time being.
Fast forward... the audit came and went with success, mostly... the IRS asked us to pay on an oversight from 1999, but it wasn't too horrible.
In the meantime, my brother who is an avid cyclist and NOT being audited :) knows that my wife and me have pulled the purse strings tight and our living like monks financially and he feels bad because he knew about the eXp and had sat through numerous get-togethers whereby I probably bored him half to death through endless tales of All Things Thorn. e.g. he had heard about my eXp since day 1 and everyday inbetween. So when the IRS deal kicked in he knew how disappointed I was so he being of brotherly big heartedness, contacted a friend who owns a cycle shop up in New England and got a huge discount on a NOS, 2003 production year Rivendell Atlantis frameset and invited my wife and me to dinner...
we went and out he walked with frameset in hand and presented as a gift. He also said that being a firm believer in lugs he chose a lugged frame and also being a firm believer in being thrifty he got a deal on it as well as shipping being extremely small compared to shipping from the UK. According to him he was going to take over paying off on the eXp but when he found out that it didn't have lugs it became (loosely quoting him), "Well, if I'm buying him a gift at least it's going to be the kinda gift I'd want myself". He's that kind of person... loving to a degree but opinionated as hell too.
So extremely long story short... I still want an eXp and one day I know I'll put the coin together to get one but right now I have a beautiful Rivendell Atlantis frameset that came as a gift and with some extra money we have I'm having it built up by Peter Jon White in New Hampshire here in the States.
What's that old saying?? Can't look a gift horse in the mouth? So I'm not!!
This in NO way takes anything away from my deep lust over the Thorn cycles too and I must say (even though he probably will wince with pain) Robin, Andrew & the Thorn guys are simply fantastic... they fielded EVERY question, called me endlessly on their own dime, took pics at my request, shared in every phase of my excitement, etc... total class operation! I WILL ride a Thorn eventually... I know that for sure.
I'm not dissing the Atlantis either though... it remains largely untested on long tours by most owners that I can find but has many devotees on small tours, daily rides and commuting... but its quality seems to be first-rate with a very tour suited geometry-Grant Petersen knows his stuff-and the lugs and paint are very beautiful too. So having to pay for kit ain't too bad for me economically speaking when the most expensive part-the frame-was a gift.
I hope this helps clear the mystery of why the eXp suddenly appeared in the For Sale section of the SJS website.
And yes, the tour is still on... we start some 'shakedown' tours this Summer. We're psyched!!
In closing I MUST say... there is NO finer feeling than walking outdoors after an audit from the IRS and still having your freedom AND some money left in your bank account!