Thorn Cycles Forum
Private Classified => Bikes For Sale => Topic started by: jags on November 29, 2014, 02:08:05 PM
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Well i'm selling my Thorn Audax 853 i just cant get it to fit properly way to big for me so it has to go.
size seat tube measures 50.5
top tube 53.5 ctoc comes with mudguards/ Thorn seatpost/ bb/ and headset .
pm me for a price.
anto.
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[Posted on Anto's behalf at his request -- Dan.]
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Anto,
I suppose you've tried a variety of stems to adjust reach and 'bar height?
Best,
Dan.
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I'm really sorry you are selling your Audax Jags, it's an absolute beauty, a credit to you and the previous owner John. The trouble with a bike that doesn't quite fit 100% is that it can create physical problems. I wish it was my size as I would snap it up in a jiffy although I can't see it being for sale for very long.
I'm sad for you Jags but hoping you get a good price for it.
Regards,
Neil
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Thanks Dan and john appreciate the kind words.
dan i tried everything believe me but its just to big.
if someone offers me a good price for the lot ill sell only thing ill keep the saddle and leavers there my sons lol.
its a cracking bike believe me the paintwork has a few marks but nothing much, wheels are new tyres are good everything on it is 100% perfect i didnt clean it today after the spin to much pain, but i usually clean it after every spin,
anto.
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Jags,wishing you well in whatever you decide. It seems a pity as you really liked your audax too.
Regards Alfie. ;)
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Mmmmm it is a shame! It was too small for me.
All the best selling Anthony.
Regards,
John
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Thanks lads im just gettin a bike ready for tomorrow much smaler will post photos later just changed all the cables pedals now i need to straighten out the wheels man i hate it when people dont look after there bikes.my buddy knew giving it to me was a win win situation he will get it back 100 times better ;D ;D.
anyway i'm away to me shed work to be done ;)
cheerslads
anto spread the word great bike for sale.
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Got the bike finished looks mental compaired to the thorn ::)
so would it be an idea to sell the Audax complete ,
well different saddle different leavers.
anyone come up with a fare price go on make an offer.
great christmas pressie for someone.
anto.
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Got the bike finished looks mental compaired to the thorn ::)
so would it be an idea to sell the Audax complete ,
well different saddle different leavers.
anyone come up with a fare price go on make an offer.
great christmas pressie for someone.
anto.
Anto,
Sell the frame as it is easier to post from Ireland. Plus you would still have most parts to build another. Are you really sure it is too big? It was too small for me.
Also have you tried a different stem or saddle moved forward or whatever?
Anyhow it would be best to sell frameset because you just find another and build up again.
Regards,
John
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its way to long for me John i cant adjust saddle anymore im afraid.
yeah your right about selling frame only but if i can a good price for the lot its going.
i have to keep saddle and leavers there my sons and only used for brakes.so the new owner could buy a set of break leavers no big deal fitting them.
ok 900euro for the lot any takers
450euro for frame which includes
mudguards
headset
thorn seatpost
bottom bracket SQ taper.
quality bike so grab a bargain.
anto.
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its way to long for me John i cant adjust saddle anymore im afraid.
You could use a straight seatpost instead of the layback seatpost you have fitted and I'm sure you could also use a shorter stem too.
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Nope tried everything its for sale end of story.
jags.
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Brochure here, with pics, descriptions, sizing: http://web.archive.org/web/20060911025035/http://www.sjscycles.com/thornwebsite/thornpdf/ThornAudax853BroHiRes.pdf
Best,
Dan.
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Nice bike that audax 8)
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BUMP
so cant believe any of you lads are not interested in this dream bike ,i'm just about to pack it away put it into a dark closet never to see the road again :'(
your not going to get a better bike than this for audax light touring everyday use 900 euro its a snapcome on lads what are yis waiting for.
bye bye now.
anto.
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Have you tried the CTC forum Jags? I'm sure somone would love it care of Santa. Bit of tinsel and away you go ho ho ! I'll put a link up if you like.
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i did indeed but i'd rather give the lads here first refusal they all know what the bike looks like and how well i look after it.
ah if i dont sell it so well and good i'll drill a hole in the toptube and nail it to the wall ;)
jags.
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i did indeed but i'd rather give the lads here first refusal they all know what the bike looks like and how well i look after it.
ah if i dont sell it so well and good i'll drill a hole in the toptube and nail it to the wall ;)
jags.
I will drill a hole in your head if you do that! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If you still have it in the New Year I will buy the frameset off you and sell it myself. I will pay you what you paid me provided
it is still in the condition it was then. Return with parts I supplied. I will build it up and it will be sold on Ebay.
How is that for confidence?
It is Christmas and nobody has any money anymore. We have a Conservative led Coalition government who have all of the money.....
Regards from the previous owner who found the size too small!
John
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yes john its still in great nick few paints chips that was on it when i got it but all touched up.i tell you when it come to selling stuff im feckin useless never seem to get anyone to buy .if i could i would give you the bike for nothing but you know how i'm fixed stoned broke ::)
but when i'm giving stuff away i have to beat the feckers from the door ;D ;D
just thinking would it be an idea to swap the bike for a 50cm audax or club tour .
mind you it would want to be in good order not a gate ;)
anto.
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Now is probably not the best time of year to sell Anto. I advertised my Cyclosportif for a few weeks now on here and CTC, and had just one enquiry... May be best to hold on to it until spring, unless you take up John's kind offer.
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its going up to my bedroom its safe up there,
im in no hurry i have my friends bike to use for as long as i want so not stuck.pity i cant get a buyer here in ireland save me all that hassle and expensive.
anto.
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Yep I feel for you. The Cyclosportif is safe in my bedroom too, but the winter is coming and I need a new boiler more than a third bike! Oh well ::)
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Please would you send some pics/details and price etc to;
smep@smep.karoo.co.uk
Thank you,
Steve
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You have PM.
anto.
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Still for sale lads i'll drop the price 850 euro but no lower than that ;)
i changed the brake leavers took off saddle there the only changes from the photos.
i've decided to give up this audax cycling well i never done any ;D ;D
and as for cycle touring yeah it will never happen, so anto is going back to road cycling im gonna buy a lightweigh frameset and build it up im to old for fanasy stuff touring and such like in your dreams anto baby.
mind you i not going to make the mistake of selling all my new camping stuff i can always use the car for that lark. ::)
ok thats it lads one nice thorn audax for sale.
anto.
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Anto,
You will not go quicker with a lightweight bike, just feel quicker 1st time out ;D
Regards,
John
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aw not worried about quick john to old for that caper :'(,but what I'm after is a bike that fits.mind you a light bike is so much easier to climb those bloody hills,the guy that built my buddies custom road bike reckons i should be riding a 48cm frame :o
he gave me a go on one of his custom bike worth about 8 grand size 48 it felt like i was on a bullitt.
the bike i'm using at the moment is my friend's alu Sintesi light as a feather and he had a rack on the rear touring france never had a problem.if i can get the rack off him i'll try it out with my loaded panniers.
yeah i'm very disappointed about my audax i though it would be the last bike i'd ever buy ticked all the boxes,and when i use the custom lightwheels i have its a totally different animal much smoother faster just a pity the feckin thing doesnt fit me.
pity i wasn't born tall instead of goodlooking sure a fella cant have it all ;D ;D
anto.
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My Surly Long Haul Trucker feels really fast when I put 120 psi 25mm wide smooth and supple tires on it instead of the 80 psi 37mm wide touring tires with stiffer casing. With those higher pressure tires, I think I can win any race, climb steeper mountains, etc. I have two sets of 700c wheels, thus it is easy to switch the tires, do it a few times each year.
Then I get home from a ride after using the faster tires and reality sets in - my average speed is only about 3 percent faster when I use the faster tires. And, yes I changed the bike computer settings for wheel diameter, I am actually judging that 3 percent based on time to ride the same route.
Thus there is feeling fast on a bike and there is actually being fast on a bike, they are not the same thing.
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When I got the Trek Smover with its automatic gearbox
http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html (http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGsmover.html)
it was to join a Gazelle Toulouse with the same gearbox except manual
http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGgazelletoulouse.html (http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGgazelletoulouse.html)
otherwise virtually zero difference between the bikes.
I can't remember now precisely how much faster I was over a daily ride I took probably 150 times a year, but it was in the order of 7-8%, very noticeable, easily measured, pretty consistent, just for having a bike on which it was automatic to be in the most efficient gear all the time.
I concluded that some changes do make a difference.
Mick, I woulda thought 3% was a difference worth having for an old roadie. :D
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Lads when I'm cycling getting the miles in i go grand , ;)but the problem I'm having is serious back pain .this audax is to long for me nothing wrong with the bike it's the pilot that's the problem.
think I'm gonna have to get a bike fit done before i buy again this guessing game is a waste of time and money.
imagine no one is interested in buying my bike I'm flabbergasted ;D ;D ;D
anto.
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Anthony,
You mentioned in a previous post that a bike which climbed hills well would be worth having.
In my experience with my original correct size 550S Thorn Audax 853 ,it was that this bike climbs better than any other bike owned, including the present 'Mk 3 Audax'.
Just trying to warn you in advance before you rush. I recall that your Sherpas was described by you as 'superb' but you sold it (financial needs). What size was that bike? Remember the Audax 853 did not 'give you back problems' when you first rode it. If I recall you thought it the 'best' bike you had ever ridden, that was until your 'friends' got custom and carbon bikes?
Think about it, it's your bike and I know from your previous enthusiastic behaviour that you did 'love it'!
Regards,
John
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Morning John,yeah the sherpa was 51s but a complete dog on hills other than that great bike ::)
to be honest although i rode the Audax plenty and loved it dearly i kinda always new it was way to long for me.
i could always ride different size bikes didn't seem to bother me, but i'm not that guy any more ,i dont cycle as much either its been over a week since i was out, few years back i would be out 4 days a week quality miles but not any more.
i've been going through this feckin lower back pain abot 10 years now ever since i did the camino tour in spain even though i won the king of the mountains on that trip ;)
yeah i was a good little climber but no more and the bike ain't helping believe me.
to be honest i'm not all that bother if i sell it or not the trouble posting it to the uk is just not worth the efford.and you know me i never bargain with the seller that would be one of my pet hates i'd sooner give it away i can safely say i'm a decent enough gobshite i would never pull a stroke on anyone.
anyway i'm starting to ramble thats what happens to auld fellas like me ;D ;D.
oh i put it up on yacf had one enquirey think i'll take it off there .
anto
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Morning John,yeah the sherpa was 51s but a complete dog on hills other than that great bike ::)
to be honest although i rode the Audax plenty and loved it dearly i kinda always new it was way to long for me.
i could always ride different size bikes didn't seem to bother me, but i'm not that guy any more ,i dont cycle as much either its been over a week since i was out, few years back i would be out 4 days a week quality miles but not any more.
i've been going through this feckin lower back pain abot 10 years now ever since i did the camino tour in spain even though i won the king of the mountains on that trip ;)
yeah i was a good little climber but no more and the bike ain't helping believe me.
to be honest i'm not all that bother if i sell it or not the trouble posting it to the uk is just not worth the efford.and you know me i never bargain with the seller that would be one of my pet hates i'd sooner give it away i can safely say i'm a decent enough gobshite i would never pull a stroke on anyone.
anyway i'm starting to ramble thats what happens to auld fellas like me ;D ;D.
oh i put it up on yacf had one enquirey think i'll take it off there .
anto
Anto,
You say you never argue with a buyer?
Offer genuine, on table now. the frame is too small for me but I will offer £125:00 including post for the frameset! ;D
Regards,
John
PS You could keep the tent too!
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AW no thanks john i'll get more for it here besides if i dont get 580for bike (im not stripping it down again )its staying putt. ;)
havent even pitched that tent yet jury still out on that one. ;D ;D
anto.
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Anto
The top tube on your Audax is shorter than I thought, going by the size matrix in the brochure it must be 530mm, and therefore getting a 700c bike with a significantly shorter top tube and manageable TCO isn't going to be easy - the smallest Audax Mk3 has a top tube of 518mm, shorter by only 12mm which is nothing really.
Looking at your bike your handlebars are a wee bit lower than your saddle and I'm wondering of this is a factor in your back problems ???
A couple of potential solutions which come to mind are a) get one of those adjustable stems that can go up to a really steep angle, it won't be pretty but could be effective; or b) get another [carbon] fork with a lot more steerer to get your bars higher and hopefully ease your back problems.
Either way there's a chance your Audax could be perfect for you again.
Good luck anyway whatever you decide Anto.
Jim
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Cheers Jim worth thinking about ;)
I've just fallen out with it at the moment I'm a geek ::)
yeah i could change a few things lighter carbon fork and shorter stem get rid of those wheels and tyres and mudguards those changes would certainly make a difference.
I've fallen out with cycling this past while more into walking in the woods on my own well away from bloody glory hunter.
yeah maybe i should step back a bit and see if i can make this work it is a lovely bike afterall.
still its a 53cm frame that's whats bugging me big time ,will i ever feel comfortable on it that's the thing.ah my head is cabbaged trying to figure out the best thing to do.
anyway its staying where it is for the time being. rs jim.
anto
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Feck it i'm keeping it .no longer for sale. ::)
gonna go for shorter stem for the time being i will change the forks for carbon.drop kick those mudguards over the nearest hedge .i have 4 bikes (frames) here at present my old raleigh my beautifull bianchi and my mates sintesi .must get the measuring tape out will be interesting to see whats the difference in top tube lenghts.
anyone got an 80 or 100 mm stem going cheap.
btw does SJS cycles have a carbon fork to fit this audax .
thanks lads
anto.
bianchi top tube 51 seat tube 48
sintesi top tube 52 seat tube 52
raleigh top tube 55 seat tube 55 :o
Thorn top tube 53.5 seat tube 50
so you guys with the brains i've none work out the average in that lot.
in other words is it worth me getting rid of the thorn.
btw my top tube is 65 ins (height)
inside leg 29 ins.
i'm defo getting smaller as i get older.
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i have 4 bikes (frames) here at present my old raleigh my beautifull bianchi and my mates sintesi .
Bianchi *and* the Raleigh 753 in reserve behind the Audax? :o
Nice arrows in your quiver! ;D
Best,
Dan.
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Aw Dan the bianchi is my friend 's bike same guy that ownes the sintesi, i have it here to ventually built it up for him (reckord group set )
anto.
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Ah! Just admiring, Anto. I love all bikes, as you know. :D
Best,
Dan.
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Anto
A stem of 80mm should put the reach on the Audax about the same as the Bianchi or Sintesi with 100mm stems. 80mm is not too short for good handling. A 6 or 10 degree stem (depending on steerer height) should give you good options for bar height, with the option of a 17 degree in reserve!! Which make/model of stem depends on steerer diameter and bar diameter but Vai and Pro stems are inexpensive and good quality.
The most important thing is to get out and enjoy the ride - perhaps you're pushing yourself too hard pace wise to have fun, especially if you've not been out as much lately? Ultimately it's not about the bike (as long as it's reliable and functional) but about the experience. I'm probably preaching to the converted here!
Good luck!
Nich
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Anto,
Forget my offer ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The seat post that you are using is a layback. You require a straight seat post with the saddle inline by the look of things. The bar height looks ok to me
and with the length of top tube you have I would have thought the bike would fit perfectly.
Personally I think that you have run away with the idea that your pals have better bikes? They are new but not better in my opinion. I wish I could find another Audax 853 size 550S. The bike climbs well, is comfortable, well brazed up and looks great!
Try to get the saddle forward as mentioned, with an inline seat post.
The bike is 'supposed' to have mudguards which is why I let you have them with this bike!
Regards,
John
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Nich cheers buddy appreciate the advice all taken on board,i'll start hunting for a new stem a carbon fork as soon as i have the money ::)
yes i did start cycling with the local group again after years of cycling on my todd and i now have a new cycling partner who drives me feckin crazy.
to be honest i think i;ll have to go solo again although i do like the company and the craic does be good in the group but its just hard work trying to keep with these lads on a heavy bike.
still the changes will only improve the ride quality so something to look forward too.
john i know the frame is ready for mudguards but man oh man they should be banned from bikes a simple clip on mudguard will work every bit as well,besides it seldom rains here in sunny ireland. ;)
cheers lads
anto
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Nich cheers buddy appreciate the advice all taken on board,i'll start hunting for a new stem a carbon fork as soon as i have the money ::)
yes i did start cycling with the local group again after years of cycling on my todd and i now have a new cycling partner who drives me feckin crazy.
to be honest i think i;ll have to go solo again although i do like the company and the craic does be good in the group but its just hard work trying to keep with these lads on a heavy bike.
still the changes will only improve the ride quality so something to look forward too.
john i know the frame is ready for mudguards but man oh man they should be banned from bikes a simple clip on mudguard will work every bit as well,besides it seldom rains here in sunny ireland. ;)
cheers lads
anto
Anto,
The bike is not heavy at all-it is all 'in your head' because your pals have lighter bikes.
That 853 is a perfect weight.
It does not need carbon forks either.
I give up!
Regards,
John
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john i 'm getting them and thats that ;D ;D.
im not long back from a 20 mile spin on the alu sintesi i was travelling a lot faster than i usually do i put that down to the weight of the bike .
don't give up on me yet buddy sure i love annoying all you lads what would yis do without me. ::)
anto.
oh forgot to mention me saddle fell off during the spin for god sake dont tell anyone.
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Jags, don't know if you are still selling your Audax, I might be interested but need a few more details. Could you send me a PM if you read this.
Regards,
Neil.
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you have pm .
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Hi Jags, just checked my emails and nothing there, darn technology.
Glad you are back on the forum anyway ;D.
Neil
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ah no idea what happened there Neil,if you send me your emaill i send you photos and give you a full run down on the bike. basically what i said was me me an offer when you see the bike.
have to out now will talk later.
cheers
anto.
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Hiya,
Hmm...that would fit me :P
I used this for bikefit:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/Store/catalog/fitCalculatorBike.jsp get somebody to measure you? :)
But one thing I have noticed is that the saddle setback is a bit tricky.
I cycle my XTC with a 6 cm stem on a 55.5 cm VT with an inline seatpost as the angles are so slack. But on my track frame I need a setback seatpost (steep angles cos...track) If you feel "pitched forward" on a normal seatpost you do need a setback perhaps. I would experiment with this before you commit to an expensive carbon stem. There's lot of cheap n cheerful used stems/seatposts.