Thorn Cycles Forum
Private Classified => Bikes For Sale => Topic started by: Andybg on December 03, 2012, 06:36:46 pm
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Spotted this on ebay and might just be right for someone.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thorn-Nomad-MK2-Touring-Bike-with-S-S-couplings-and-Rohloff-Hub-/281033368331?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item416ee4e30b
Looks very nice
Andy
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That is a serious bike, the right size, I love Yellow......
Its not the right time for me to buy my bike as I have nowhere to put it until I move to my bigger flat in the New Year, but I cant ignore what might be a very good deal.
I can feel my bank managers hands getting sweaty......
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Now that is a glorious bike, particularly with the S&S couplings too. Such a shame to read of the reason for sale but at least the owner can look forward to some lighter riding during 2013. Someone somewhere is going to be thanking Santa this year I expect :)
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Well, ive done it..my bid is in......
Over 50, Overweight, and hopefully soon Overdrawn....
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Over 50, Overweight, and hopefully soon Overdrawn....
It's been a great motivator for me, to get out and ride, to prove that I didn't just throw all that money away!
Best of luck with the auction!
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Oh, the poor seller; I do feel for him and the reasons for selling. Well, Ian...fingers crossed for you to win; it'd be nice to have this one "in the family", so to speak. A lovely bike, and you've an Adventure just waiting for it....
Ian, if you find your initial bid is outmatched and you have a change of heart, you can always go back into the fight with a last-moment bid. I usually wait till the last second or so (truly!) before placing my first bid. Yes, I'm a "sniper" on eBay auctions.
All the best,
Dan. (...not much longer to wait now;less than 10 days)
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I have never sniped but probably I am just stupid!
http://reviews.ebay.com/Sniping-The-Best-kept-secret-on-Ebay?ugid=10000000002571474 (http://reviews.ebay.com/Sniping-The-Best-kept-secret-on-Ebay?ugid=10000000002571474)
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My spider senses tell me its probably not wise to discuss my bid here until its over, dont want to give any advantage away......
Cmon Father Christmas!
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its probably not wise to discuss my bid here until its over
Yep; play it close to the vest, Ian. Just know we're all pulling for you to get it for the lowest possible price so it will soon have a home with you (or one of "us" if it doesn't work for you).
Jim, the only reason to place a bid where there is none is to prevent the seller from removing the item from auction (which they can do if no bids have been received). However, it is rare an item is removed with no bids before the end of auction and if they do, you can always contact them by email and inquire as to the item and their plans for it. Bidding early is to *no* advantage, as it simply drives the price up and starts the auction frenzy, resulting in a higher closing bid than would otherwise occur -- a disadvantage to all but the seller. The advantages are as listed in the linked article you cited. I decide on what my price is before I bid, and that's *it* -- no chance to go up and up, so sniping saves me from Auction Fever as well. If I miss out, then C'est la vie -- it wasn't meant to be.
However, I do not use auto-snipers. Mine is all manual, using an Internet clock set to the same time as eBay's servers. Part of the fun is to see how close I can cut it, and sometimes I miss out to the robots. Again, C'est la vie, not meant to be.
Real bidding is a science as well as an art. I just miss the Dutch Auctions ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction ) on eBay (they ended May 2009), where one wanted to have the highest low bid or lowest high bid. You never see them anymore, but they made for some fantastic bargains -- probably 'cos nobody understood them! See: http://reviews.ebay.com/WIN-A-DUTCH-AUCTION-WITHOUT-PAYING-THROUGH-THE-NOSE?ugid=10000000001026659 Still it was the Dutch Auctions that got me into sniping. There is a certain delight that comes from snagging the winning bid with less than two seconds to go. Heartstopping!
Ah, me; let's keep fingers crossed for a happy outcome on this Nomad sale. Regardless of who wins, I'll be happy for them, as it is a lovely bike indeed.
All the best,
Dan.
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Best of luck Ian
Hope the bidding goes your way
Andy
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Lovely looking bike
Just my size a colour / color.
:) :)
Dilemma alert!!
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I wont be doing my big ride until end of 2013 or 2014.
Just my luck to make the purchase and then have a knee or hip go.
:'(
So so tempting.....
Advice folks please.
Btw
whats a Thorn Forkst?
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Same dilemma as me Matt, my ride is planned for next Year so anything could change.
I just had a hot flush and went for it, if you decide to bid then good luck at least we bring the bike home :p
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I'm not sure if this chap sold his Nomad but I think its the same size as the one being discussed. Although it did not have a S&S couplings I think it had a dynohub plus a few other bits thrown in. Take a look here: http://www.rideandglide.co.uk/thorn_nomad_mk2.htm
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I have been outbid, I placed a bid of £1200 which I know is very cheap for a bike like that but at the end of the day unless I got a great bargain I didnt want to spend any more on a second hand bike and miss out on the excitement of having my own built specifically for me.
Good luck to the current bidders.
In4 I followed that link but other than a nice website detailing the owners escapades their is no mention of him wanting to sell that bike?
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It is the same Nomad that was advertised here back a bit.
Sorry you are out of the running Ian but I think you have made up your mind on a factory fresh bike to your own specification.
Cheers
Andy
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I have been outbid, I placed a bid of £1200 which I know is very cheap for a bike like that but at the end of the day unless I got a great bargain I didnt want to spend any more on a second hand bike and miss out on the excitement of having my own built specifically for me.
Good luck to the current bidders.
In4 I followed that link but other than a nice website detailing the owners escapades their is no mention of him wanting to sell that bike?
I am pretty sure he withdrew it since there were no serious bidders before he resumed his trip.
I believe he said he would store it until he came home.
So one more to look out for in the future
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One thing that I have been pleased with is how sought after Thorn bikes are even when second hand, it says a lot about the build quality of them.
Your right Andy, it would have to be a real bargain for me to give up ordering a new bike from Thorn ;D
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I was secretly keeping my eye on the ebay Nomad, it has just been withdrawn.
I assume someone offered him a price he coudnt refuse and he took it off.
Guees someone is going to have a nice xmas :)
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Rats
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Don't worry guys, there's still my Thorn Raven :-)
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Ok ,Oldbill
Tell me the practical difference between a Nomad and Raven.
And maybe we can do a deal.
I want to do a long tour from UK to China next year. Panniers front and back. Carrying everything and the kitchen sink.
Will it get me there and back?
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As you probably know, you can take a Nomad apart, the Raven will get you there as well as a Nomad would but it stays in one piece unless you hit a truck. Mine has no front panniers as I wasn't going to be carrying the kitchen sink, so you would need to add those. It does come with Carradyce drybags on the rears. I'm 5' 10" and it fits me. Let me know what you want to do.
Bill
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Hi Matt!
You can read and gain a full appreciation for the differences between the Raven Tour and Nomad Mk2 by taking a look at the two brochures, which I have culled from the Internet's archives for the relevant dates of production to compare. They are here:
Raven Tour:
http://web.archive.org/web/20091229063730/http://www.sjscycles.com/thornpdf/ThornRavenTourBroHiRes.pdf
Nomad Mk2:
http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.sjscycles.com/thornpdf/ThornRavenNomadBroHiRes.pdf
In the simplest terms, the Nomad Mk2 is the heaviest-duty of the available Rohloff Thorns, and indeed, any Thorn. It is the freighter, packer, and expedition bike of choice when cargo capacity and sheer durability are the prime determinant of success. Owning one, I can tell you it is a *lot* of bike for general use, but fits my needs to a well, "T" for expedition touring. Because the frame is so stout, I have found (in contrast to my former Sherpa Mk2) that unladen and general ride comfort is more dependent on tire width, air volume, and pressure; the frame is less resilient and it is less suited as an all-'rounder, being focused more directly to expeditionary use in terms of materials and design.
In contrast, the Raven Tour is more akin to my former Sherpa Mk2, and -- while ably handling heavy loads -- is a likely a better all-'rounder for general use. If you had just one bike and wished it to serve for all purposes, the Raven Tour is probably a better choice. If you're really going to the back-of-beyond and carrying enormous loads on occasion (as I do, when I need to carry ~20+liters of water plus a week or two of foodstuffs when in the remotest parts of the desert and need to have a day or two's rationed safety margin), then the Nomad is probably the better choice.
In the Raven Tour brochure referenced above, the ad copy on page 2 of the May 2009 brochure reads...Framewise, the RavenTour is a direct descendant of our well known, much loved, and very highly regarded Thorn Nomad. It has very slightly sportier geometry and the tubes are a little lighter in gauge but the top and down tube are larger in diameter. This creates a superb multi-use frame...the Raven Tour a genuine, first-class touring bike which is well up to the demands of cycle camping...it is even capable of a global tour of required to do so. Its robust qualities also mean that the Raven Tour is a first-class day-to-day all-year-round machine....
In comparison the Nomad Mk2 brochure details the enormous cargo capacity of the Nomad (page 12). It is a machine more focused on the heavy/expedition touring end of things.
It really is a horses for courses sort of thing, Matt. Ideally, one *won't* carry enormous loads on a regular basis. A bike is much more pleasant to ride anywhere with less weight, but if a person does sometimes need to do so with regularity, then a bike purpose-built to that end is the appropriate choice.
Another thought: A trailer is also an appropriate way to make a lighter-duty bike into a heavier-duty one when need occasionally demands. Handling is generally less affected than it is with panniers on the bike, and you have the joy of a lighter bike to ride when you wish, as in the day-to-day. After all, even a world tour will conclude someday, and a lighter bike can be a lot of fun for day riding and such. Sometimes, a heavier bike can feel a bit less...joyful, lively, and fun even if it does very nicely on day rides. I am pleased with my Nomad for my needs, and have the option to ride my other, lighter bikes for go-fast days if I wish. Interestingly...I've not ridden them much since getting the Nomad! It is doing well in general use, and the novelty of it as New Bike is far from past.
If it were me and I wanted a Rohloff bike that was a general-purpose jack-of-all-trades biased toward loaded touring, I'd choose a Raven Tour like Bill's. If was *really* going into remote country where reasonable resupply was lacking and I needed to frequently carry not only all my gear for extended touring, but lots of food and water stores as well (as I do on occasion, with these exact demands and needs), then the heavier bike is better suited for that. Its thicker tube walls will also better resist dents and dings when tossed atop a truck or donkey cart when needed for portage. Those heavy tube walls mean it also weighs a lot all by itself.
All things considered, I think the Raven Tour like Bill's (sadly, no longer in the current production line now Thorn have essentially merged the Raven Sport and Raven Tour into one machine, now known simply as the "Raven"), will more likely meet the needs of most people who are seeking a "do it all" bike that can also tour the globe. On the other hand, we have Forum members like NZPeterG who has his Nomad set up with front suspension and are ready to go racing!
Tough choice, fun choice!
Best,
Dan.
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Many thanks folks.
I will measure my present bike and size it up against the 512L
Matt