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Community => Muppets Threads! (And Anything Else) => Topic started by: ians on December 20, 2013, 04:15:52 pm
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having just sold my Raven Tour got me thinking about the best bike I've ever owned. I've had a lot of bikes over the years - tourers, mountain bikes and road bikes.
At Number 2 is the Raven Tour. Fabulous, comfy ride - everything about it was just right.
But at Number 1 is the Muddy Fox Courier (1st generation - white with yellow and black decals). I bought this from my LBS in the mid-1980s. It was ordered in specially - my LBS hadn't even heard of mountain bikes let alone Muddy Fox.
I used it get to work, to the shops, toured with it, charity rides, messing about in the woods. It has the number 1 slot because of one quality that set it above all others - it was fun. I was about 40 at the time - and I hadn't had that much fun on a bike since I was a kid.
Care to share your best bike?
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Thorn xTc of Reynolds 725 with LX groupset - definitely and by far. If they only made the larger sizes oversize and with a tad more luggage capacity I'd never have sold mine.
Anyone out there looking to swap xTc for a large Cyclosportiff or Raven Tour, give me a shout. ;)
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the one i'm riding at the moment Raleigh 753,
the Look KX light was a smashing bike as well
the sherpa was brilliant strong as an old horse,
but yeah the raleigh will take some beating.
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A steel silver 5 speed Viking superstar, ridden to destruction, my first bike as a teenager for purely nostalgic reasons. But I have to say my RT is the best bike from a practical perspective by miles (and miles).
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I do love my RST but I think that the Audax Mk 3 was, all told, a better ride.
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it would be surprising if the Utopia Kranich that I now use for everything wasn't the best bike I ever owned, considering it is several multiples of the price of some pretty desirable bikes I owned before. And I don't just say that because if I chose any other bike you would question my judgement in buying the Kranich. The Kranich is just so right, everything just works like I want it to, that the best description of it is "a complete bike" -- in the sense of compleat, even iconic in its operation. It never puts a foot wrong, and it isn't pushy about it either, like a Trek or even the sportier Gazelle, which are themselves good bikes.
I've bought three very sophisticated and technically advanced bikes by mail-order, sight unseen, from German dealers, and had a happy experience each time. That's amazing, when you think I'm several countries and two sea passages away.
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Because this is Thorn site I can only list my Best Cycle Tourer
Thorn Nomad (Tom)
6th or 7th overall.
Pete
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A Woodrup Chimera BD followed closely by an RST.
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Of all the bikes I've owned & wish I'd still got, I'd have to say......
Thorn Catalyst.
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Thorn Audax 853 size 550S which I sold due to illness. I regret it and trying to find another, with little success.
John
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I think my Catalyst was the best. I wish I hadn't sold it.
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The best bike I ever owned was my Dawes Galaxy. It was extremely comfortable, it had a good turn of speed (for a tourer), and of course could carry a heavy load.
It was my only bike for a few years and I took it on 200km audaxes, off road through muddy tracks and over more mountains than most MTBs ever see, anywhere in all weathers and foul conditions, and I will always regret letting it go.
Nowadays I have lighter/faster better looking audax/road bikes, a better bike for off road, and of course my Thorn RST which is just great for everything else.
Jim
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the best bike I owned was my Raleigh Equipe white/yellow/silver colour that my parents bought me for my something'th birthday back at the end of the 80s. As my first proper racer and not a kids bmx it was the best bike ever, and I rose all over Leicestershire on it.
typically my parents threw it out a few years ago without telling me... my fault for leaving it for 15 years in their garage I suspect...
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Without a doubt my Coca Cola audax bike actually made (Im told by Nigel Dean) in 531c.
Bought for £150.00 about twenty years ago.
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vitus 979 dural, because I was fast, very fit and a bit younger than I am now! However, I sold it but did keep the bike I had before the Vitus, a Peugeot 400 professionelle in reynolds 531, still have it and still ride it.
Dave
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Hi All!
I have three "best bikes", not so much based on spec', but on what they have done for me and my enjoyment/accomplishment in cycling.
Chronologically...
First would be my 1977 Nishiki Olympic 'cos it was my first "real" bicycle, to my way of thinking. Compared to the Little Red Bike hand-me-down boyhood bike, the Schwinn Sting-Ray, and the Schwinn Varsity with its wicked-great amounts of toe overlap and magnetic attraction to guardrails, the Nishiki road like a dream. It was my Freedom Machine and I rode it regularly 8,000-12,000mi/13,000-19,000km each year as an under grad at Uni. Though it "only" had a plain-gauge high-carbon steel frame and steel rims when I got it, it also had gorgeous lugwork, great build quality and geometry, the sweetest ride, and was relatively lightweight at 28lb/12.7kg. I rode it 22,000mi/35,000km, then my father added another 13,000mi/21,000km of heavy loaded touring, and it never let either of us down. It is hanging in the garage now, each of us too sentimental to ever let it go. And why should we? With decades of upgrades, it still rides nicely and is a real pleasure to take out from time to time.
Second of my all-time "best bikes" is my blue rando bike, a 1983/84 Centurion ProTour 15. Comfortable carrying a maximum touring load of 56lb/26kg on logging roads, it also never leaves me feeling beat-up after a 400km day on pavement. Viceless handling, responsive, and relatively light at 33lb/15kg, it is the nicest all-'rounder I've ever owned. With well over 28,000mi/45,000km on the clock, it still feels new to me and brings a smile with every ride.
Third on the list chronologically is my most recent bike, the Thorn Nomad Mk2. The ideal expedition touring bike I'd been looking for to carry sometimes-enormous loads for extended stays in the back-of-beyond, it is now also a reasonable and fun if somewhat heavy all-'rounder, thanks to the addition of a Thudbuster seatpost to take the edge off bumps when riding unladen. I like the Rohloff particularly well because it almost perfectly duplicates the durable half-step-and-granny/5-cog gearing on the blue rando bike, one of my all-time favorites. The low-maintenance reliability is icing on the cake. It makes a workable road bike that allows the freedom to take any little dirt track I happen to pass and makes both enjoyable.
The tandem would have to figure in here somewhere as a "best bike" of sorts, but doesn't see the use the blue rando bike and Nomad do. Between those two, the whole spectrum of nearly all my riding is nicely covered and as a result, the other bikes just don't see as much use as they once did.
Best (bike),
Dan.
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I've owned not that many bikes in my life...
Nr1: So far the XTC is number one the frame just feels nice. Yes. Very scientific I know...just that feeling you're on the bike and go "Gosh what a nice bike this is".
Nr2: The same with the vintage Ciocc, old non ergo levers are AWWWWWWWWWFULLLLLLLLLLLL for a hood rider like me but the bike tracks absolutely lovely. It's also, for a change, exactly my size.
*reminds me I need to do some work on it, better tape + locktite that BB that keeps going loose..!*
I quite enjoy my Charge Hob fixed, it's going for a Gazelle Piste (track) now let's see who rides best. I go by feel as you can see/read. No experience with "plastic" bikes I fear, or good alu bikes.
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I go by feel as you can see/read.
This can be a very good way to tell which bike *is* best for your needs. I'm a big believer in "feel" being the result of a thousand-million unconscious and subconscious evaluations resulting in an aggregate, summary evaluation -- Good or Not Good, Best, Worst, or Just Okay.
If you like it, you'll know! If not...you'll know as well!
Best,
Dan. (...who believes sometimes it really *is* about impressions, and that's Okay)
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Most of my bikes have been used when I got them, either from sellers or the junkyard. I think that I have only bought one new for myself.
My two favourite are relatively recent buys: a Thorn eXp, this thing has been indulged with too many top grade extras for me to have bought it new, my second choice is my Moulton APB 21 Land Rover edition. I have a more expensive Moulton, but prefer the combined derailleur and hub gear system. Having ridden the Rohloff equipped Thorn though everything else seems like a poor relation.
The very worst, by an extremely long margin has to be my Strida SX, ridden two miles since new at least a couple of years since.
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Well, that saves me buying a Strida and being disappointed. I always thought it looked too cute to be true.
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I met the original designer of the Strida, Mark Sanders, in the mid-1980s (as part of an Open University project on product design) and he let me borrow one to try out. The original idea was good I thought, very quick to fold. But not for going too far - especially if you're tall.
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It is a fantastic thing to hang on a wall, but the combination of small wheels, ultra-short wheelbase and very narrow bars make it a perilous ride. Sanders' If bike is so much better, bit needs more gears.
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It is a fantastic thing to hang on a wall
yes it is - he offered to let me have an early one at a discount and I regret not buying it.
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gonna have to google this strida see what it looks like.
ah no lads that does nothing for me sorry.
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I've still got two of my three besties:
No. 1 is my Nomad Mk2 Atilla, finally sorted almost to perfection! Gold stars for comfort, load carrying, gearing, ease of use and reliability. Bronze star for speed.
No. 2 and 3 is a toss-up - I used to have (and wish fervently I hadn't given it away!) a Bridgestone Antares LDT circa 1983, which was beautiful, comfortable and FAST. The only drawback was the down tube shifters (Suntour), which I hated because it forced my hands off the bars, although I got pretty good at one-handed simultaneous front and back gear changing. Google this bike. Mine was metallic blue, and it came fully equipped with racks, mudguards and a space age water bottle that would only fit it's unique bidon holder. It'd be a collector's item now if I could get hold of one.
I still have its replacement - a sweet Trek 520 with Deore LX drivetrain and bar end shifters. I have pimped this ride with Brooks bar tape and saddle, VO handlebar and other shiny goodies. I love it because it's fast, rolls really well and looks GREAT, but alas, I'm getting too old and stiff to ride down low where the bar is. I could replace the (quill) stem I suppose, but the Nomad has usurped my heart. My wife's Raven step-through has similarly replaced her (15 years newer) Trek 520, which hasn't been ridden since red Honoria came home!
Finally, mountain bikes and other toys aside, like most of us I have wonderful memories of my first bike, a heavy steel coaster brake single speed which was bullet proof and built like a tank. It was dark brown! My mom used to freak at how I'd dismount the bike at speed upon arrival home, using (and grinding off) the sole of my sneaker to slow to a stop. I'd simultaneously pull my big sister on skates and little brother on his skooter all over the neighborhood at great speed, eventually throwing them off in tangles of arms and legs! Ah, the memories! ;D
Slammin!
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my 1976 Peugeot ... definitely the best bike ever! It went about twice as fast as my current bikes and I don't remember any discomfort whatsoever on that steed. As I remember it, the bike would climb hills with no effort - heck, I don't think I even sweated at all while on that fabulous machine, even in 40 degree C heat.
Yeah. I sure do miss it.
In about ten years I will, of course, be saying the same thing about my Nomad! :D
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An old and battered Saracen. Bought it at a police auction about 18years ago. Still got it but stopped using it about 3 years ago when I bought my Thorn Raven Enduro. Front wheel disc rear wheel rim. Replaced the rear wheel 5 times as I wore out the rims (cheaper than rebuilding the wheel). No idea how many times I replaced the cassette chain and chain wheel. Ran a few derailleurs into the wheel as well. Once snapped of the derailleurs cycling home with 2 very big compost bins strapped too a single wheel trailer. I had detoured from my route to call in for a few pints. So I had to sit in pub till mate turned up to give me a lift home. He charged me a compost bin not much of a favour.
As I now have 4 bikes it will have to go. The two Rohloff equipped ones are going nowhere, a third with disc front and rear is a snow/ice bike. It is fitted permanently with ice tyres and just left in a shed in case. Mind it got me to the pub and back on sheet ice for a couple of weeks a few years back. Not sure the Saracen is worth selling, if it is I think it will need stripping to be worth selling. Probably just give it to someone who has does me a favour.... Begrudgedly!!!
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say SD post a few photos of your surroundings I'm dead curious to see your part of the world.
jags.
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Not at home at the moment stuck in horrible Manchester. May be here for another 2 weeks although I may kill myself before then.
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Found this on my tablet and put it on photo bucket. Easy peasy
(http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s661/noncitydweller/Snow%20and%20Mum%20December%202009%20006_zpsywnaw3bd.jpg) (http://s1311.photobucket.com/user/noncitydweller/media/Snow%20and%20Mum%20December%202009%20006_zpsywnaw3bd.jpg.html)
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thats a turn upi thought you lived in a shack in the middle of nowhere. ;D ;D
jags.
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Its a posh shack it is made of brick. Now my neighbour could do with painting his shack! The white one on the right where he stores his rather expensive motor bike?
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;D ;D i used to cycle with a guy that bought a cops motorbike honda goldwing i think fantastic looking bike,he would never take it out if the roads were wet ::) give me a break.
still its worth 12,000.
did you collect your new bike yet hope its a good one.
jags.
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the one i'm riding at the moment Raleigh 753,
the Look KX light was a smashing bike as well
the sherpa was brilliant strong as an old horse,
but yeah the raleigh will take some beating.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271468622022?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Here is another one for you!!
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;D ;D i used to cycle with a guy that bought a cops motorbike honda goldwing i think fantastic looking bike,he would never take it out if the roads were wet ::) give me a break.
still its worth 12,000.
did you collect your new bike yet hope its a good one.
jags.
No sent to a neighbours he is looking after till I get back home..... Soooooon pleaseeeee
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271468622022?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Here is another one for you!!
my 753 is in better nick than that. ;)
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my 753 is in better nick than that. ;)
It's a companion bike. Like you have with horses. They get lonely on there own!