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Community => Thorn General => Topic started by: Matt2matt2002 on September 29, 2019, 02:30:45 pm

Title: Gates Nomad
Post by: Matt2matt2002 on September 29, 2019, 02:30:45 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/B28Vypdlu_d/?igshid=a4c3f43onk1v

Just spotted.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: mickeg on September 29, 2019, 07:16:53 pm
It looks like the Rohloff cables are not the EX box version on that new frame.  I had not caught that before.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on October 01, 2019, 07:30:07 pm
Its a loan wheel to check belt alignment and spacing.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: Pavel on October 30, 2019, 12:10:41 am
Its a loan wheel to check belt alignment and spacing.

That would be a serious shame.  The EX box is a much better design.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: mickeg on October 30, 2019, 02:22:48 am
It appears that the EX box is still used.  This graphic looks like it has cable holders under the non-drive side chainstay for the shift cables.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/medium/50527_5.jpg

A side note:  If anyone builds up one of these frames, make sure you use some Loctite or similar thread locker on the small screws that hold the dropouts on the frame.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/images/products/medium/50527_6.jpg

On my Lynskey there are a couple small screws like that for removable dropouts, one of the screws started to back out from vibration and it caused me quite a bit of difficulty.  I assumed the factory had used a threadlocker so I never checked, they did not.

Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on October 30, 2019, 07:01:45 pm
Its a loan wheel to check belt alignment and spacing.

That would be a serious shame.  The EX box is a much better design.

I meant it’s a test wheel that was put in to check the alignment and the real wheel and build does have ex box. It’s very smooth to ride as there is almost no slack so smallest push in pedals immediately gets the wheels moving.  Plus it’s very quiet
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: Matt2matt2002 on October 31, 2019, 03:44:32 pm
Its a loan wheel to check belt alignment and spacing.

That would be a serious shame.  The EX box is a much better design.

I meant it’s a test wheel that was put in to check the alignment and the real wheel and build does have ex box. It’s very smooth to ride as there is almost no slack so smallest push in pedals immediately gets the wheels moving.  Plus it’s very quiet

What is the expected life of the Gates belt? In miles and years.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on October 31, 2019, 04:35:37 pm
Maybe 4x a chain. I think it depends on many things so too hard to be accurate. At least I don’t have the info
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: Matt2matt2002 on October 31, 2019, 07:01:29 pm
Maybe 4x a chain. I think it depends on many things so too hard to be accurate. At least I don’t have the info

Yes, I thought it was like asking how long is a piece of string.
Perhaps someone else will dig up some stats?
Thanks for your comment.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on October 31, 2019, 09:56:42 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48915466071_58c6e98b9f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hwuxSF)

A view of the ex box
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: PH on November 01, 2019, 09:37:38 am
That's really nice, full set of upgrades by the look of it, including hydraulic brakes?  Does the rear light cable follow the brake hose?  If so how is it attached?
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: mickeg on November 01, 2019, 02:42:25 pm
Nice looking bike.  I was a little surprised at a Tubus rack instead of a Thorn rack in the photo.

The more that I think about it, the more that I probably am happier with my Mk II because I can fit a suspension fork which I have done a couple of times.  And if the S&S option is no longer available on the Mk III, then for sure I like the Mk II better as I use the S&S couplers.  But the canti brake mounts on the wrong side of the Mk II fork has really frustrated me at times, that was my biggest gripe about the Mk II. 

Since I am comparing the Mk II and Mk III, I see a lot of good points on the Mk III.  I prefer drop bars, fortunately I could get a M size Mk II frame to fit me well with drop bars, I say fortunately because the bike was designed for use with flat bars.   Mk III is available in S frames for drop bars.  I like the Mk III paint and graphics better.  I would have used 26 in wheels with rim brakes if I bought a Mk III, but I still like the idea of having 650b option for canti brake posts for future changes.  And I like the idea of a bottom bracket eccentric that (1) is infinitely adjustable and (2) could be could be set with the crank in either an upper or lower position for minor changes in crank height above ground.

I built up my Nomad with 36 spoke wheels, I am a little curious why SJS is sticking with 32 for a heavy duty expedition bike.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on November 01, 2019, 08:31:51 pm
That's really nice, full set of upgrades by the look of it, including hydraulic brakes?  Does the rear light cable follow the brake hose?  If so how is it attached?

Shimano xt m8000 hydraulic brakes.  I think the rear light cable does follow the brake hose for a while with small zip ties? Will have a closer look.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on November 01, 2019, 08:37:57 pm
Nice looking bike.  I was a little surprised at a Tubus rack instead of a Thorn rack in the photo.

Its just what suited my needs.  I went cycle camping and cycle B&B -ing this summer and found one of them much more comfortable and enjoyable than the other.

Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: rualexander on November 01, 2019, 11:42:26 pm
I went cycle camping and cycle B&B -ing this summer and found one of them much more comfortable and enjoyable than the other.

The camping?
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on November 02, 2019, 07:13:39 am
Errr... nope.  :)
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: energyman on November 02, 2019, 09:22:59 am
Great looking bike.
Are the unit tops solid wood, my wife would like to know ?
Thanks
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on November 02, 2019, 09:46:45 am
Perhaps there should be a sub section of the forum for kitchen related questions! No they are mdf worktops and the floor is vinyl.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: mickeg on November 02, 2019, 11:17:21 am
That is why I almost always take my bikes outside for photos. 
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: David Simpson on November 02, 2019, 07:37:50 pm
I showed my wife the photo of your bike, and the first thing she noticed was the wood countertop and floor.   :)

That is a very nice looking bike. I have the Mk2 (yellow), but I prefer the classic look of the gunmetal grey.

- DaveS
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on November 02, 2019, 08:40:01 pm
I showed my wife the photo of your bike, and the first thing she noticed was the wood countertop and floor.   :)

That is a very nice looking bike. I have the Mk2 (yellow), but I prefer the classic look of the gunmetal grey.

- DaveS

Thanks. 1960s worktop, tiles and cupboards but 2019 bike. You have to get your priorities right!
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: ipswichcycler on November 05, 2019, 08:53:44 pm
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49020014248_a1170507c0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hFJops)early rider (https://flic.kr/p/2hFJops)

Not quite a gates nomad but something for my 4 year old with a gates belt drive.
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: macspud on November 07, 2019, 01:22:24 am
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49020014248_a1170507c0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hFJops)early rider (https://flic.kr/p/2hFJops)

Not quite a gates nomad but something for my 4 year old with a gates belt drive.

What! No Rohloff?  ;)
You're certainly starting him off well. He'll be a cyclist for life.  :)   
Title: Re: Gates Nomad
Post by: JimK on November 07, 2019, 02:47:40 am
Maybe 40-305 tires on there? Here's an inflation table for 305 BSD:

(https://app.box.com/shared/static/7z4nqigmawhkcyf68inv09nserc1hdo3.jpg)

I don't see a rim width but anyway the contact patch should be about 1.1 sq in. What's the load on the wheel? Maybe 35 pounds? So maybe 32 psi inflation?