Thorn Cycles Forum
Technical => Luggage => Topic started by: jags on January 16, 2014, 11:03:06 pm
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Lads did anyone of you ever use these bags on a bike (tour).
http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/Organizers-c14.htm
there certainly well made a some very clever designs,
wonder if one could be used for either a pannier or barbag,
jags.
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I have loads of MaxP kit, but most if would be useless for cycling. Those pouches might be useful for keeping small items together in a pannier, but that are total overkill.
MaxP kit is built to last, tough stuff, but often heavy. Compare it to Carradice Super C kit and you won't be far from the mark.
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;) thanks for that Templogin aways ask someone who knows.
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Hi jags!
I don't use organizers (formal bags for internal packing and organization of my kit), preferring instead to pack in different ways. For me, organizers would add extra weight and bulk but I've learned to never say never, so they might be in my dim-distant future.
If you're considering them, you may wish to look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyBkbSl-MUA
The part about organizers starts at the 2:00min time count. Despite my reservations, her results are pretty impressive.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Dan.
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yip she sure is well organized..guess she needs to be carrying all that gear.
jags
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MaxP's kit is stunning quality, and it have a couple of their pouches and many of their bags. The ones I use tend to contain all sorts of smaller items including, pens, a torch, paracord, prybar, mirror, knives, whistle, nail clippers, ink cartridges, lock pick, etc. etc. etc. most of the things can help get me out of a fix.
When it comes to loading my panniers, although one of the above pouches would work loaded differently, I have taken to using small heavy gauge self seal plastic bags for organisation do the smaller items: small tools, spare nut and bolts, tyre levers and puncture repair materials, and even coffee whitener. These allow things to be filed away nicely, be ready when needed, be protected by the toughness of the plastic and kept clean and dry. They also take up little space. If I lose one then I haven't lost everything.
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I use standard supermarket plastic bags. Organises compresses and waterproofs all in one! Plus they don't weigh very much ;)
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Supermarket 'bags for life’ are even better at 10p each, buy once, replace for free when worn ;D
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You were lucky. We had to keep our bike tools in a hole in the road.
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its hard to beat quality, those maxp bags look class but i suppose not mush use for hauling on a bike much to heavy i reckon.i was trying to come up with an idea of a bag up front that would not interfear with the feel of the steering i came up blank ::)
you know when you get your bike together take it for a few spins do a bit of tweaking to get it spot on and then you add barbag or front panniers and totally distroy the feel of the bike ???
i guess thats why someone came out with the idea of frame bags, which don't do it for me.
what am i getting at, well why has no one come up with a fixing up front to hold a barbag but not using the bars to fix it in place ::)
any thoughts lads.
jags.
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Im I remember correctly there are front racks that fit to the frame (headtube, brake bolts) out there. French randonneur style. I'll have a search for you.
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It depends on the weight that you are putting in it of course, but places like www.alpkit.com (others too), sell fairly thin, but robust, bags with roll down tops, but they will have to go on the bars.
I have no connection with Alpkit, other than being a reasonably happy customer. Why do they have to emblazon everything with their too large logo?
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https://www.alpkit.com/products/fuel-pod
i like alpkit, these bags should hold plenty.
i have a couple of toptube bags but only good for holding phone and a small snack and they do wear the paint on the top tube >:(
anyone using those alpkit bags.
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... why has no one come up with a fixing up front to hold a barbag but not using the bars to fix it in place ::)
any thoughts lads.
jags.
Something like this (http://www.hembrow.eu/frontrack.html)?
(http://www.hembrow.eu/dscf6837.jpg)
Well, you did ask :D
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;D ;D ;D yip guess i walked into that ;D
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Frame-fixed front carriers are great!
I have this bike:
http://www.workcycles.com/home-products/handmade-city-bicycles/workcycles-transport-double-tube (http://www.workcycles.com/home-products/handmade-city-bicycles/workcycles-transport-double-tube)
I can load 40 pounds of groceries on the front and the bike handles just fine.
Here is a more recent model that looks really smart:
http://www.workcycles.com/home-products/handmade-city-bicycles/workcycles-fr8-universal-frame-as-city-bike (http://www.workcycles.com/home-products/handmade-city-bicycles/workcycles-fr8-universal-frame-as-city-bike)
Another bike that works that way is a Brompton. The front bag is mounted to the frame.
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what am i getting at, well why has no one come up with a fixing up front to hold a barbag but not using the bars to fix it in place
They have! The Thorn Accessory T-bars in either size get the weight of the handlebar bag a bit lower and leave the handlebars free.
One of Thorn's greatest inventions, in my opinion. Their usefulness depends on a threadless steerer that has been left uncut/long enough and also on frame size. If the frame is very small, then it is possible there might not be enough clearance for the bag when mounted on the T-bar.
A Steco front platform rack will also work, but I can't see that on your lovely new Audax. :D
Best,
Dan.
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thats more like it although i dont fancy the bike the carrying system is good and i bet the bike handles a lot better..
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Dan i thought of the accessory bar but it's still attached to steerer tube.
anyway i'm upstairs trying to get a packing list together that will do me for an overnighter or a week. keeping thinks as light as possible.dan wheres that list you posted a few months back. ;)
jags.
(still feckin raining )
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Hi Anto!
You could always take a page from the traditional randonneurs' book and put you 'bar bag on a front mini-rack with or without a decaleur, something like this: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs.html You'll see the ones I mean about halfway down the page.
These work best on bikes with low-trail geometry, but on any bike they do get the weight of the HB off the handlebars and down as low as possible -- just above the front wheel.
Best,
Dan. (...who is looking for that list and thinks he sent it to you by email)
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ah for another day i think i still have a few bit's to buy before i get to that stage.thanks for the link.
dan you more than likely did email me that list but its deleted by now sorry buddy lol.
anto.