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Arnaud:
I've owned a Raven Sport Tour for eight months and done over 3.000km during that period. It is equipped with a San Marco Rolls saddle.I didn't have any problems until recently when I started riding longer distances, typically involving five to six hours in the saddle.My last regular ride of around 20km was quite painful from the first km.
Anyway I'm not going to bore you to death with my sore bum story; I just wanted to find out if any of you had any experience with noseless saddles like the BiSaddle.All the technical stuff on the manufacturers websites makes sense but I'd like some comments from independent parties.

Arnaud from Perth

davefife:
My RST was fitted with the San Marco Rolls as well,  I lasted about 6 weeks and 500 miles on it, I found it not to my liking at all!! and replaced it with a Specialised BG, following a go on a mates bike equipped with one.  Having upped my daily mileage and cycling 4 days a week at the moment, its not bad, but i get sore sit bones after the 40  mile mark.  I too have been researching and am going to go for a Brooks B17.  The testimonials in favour of this seat really cannot be argued with (can they?) and the longevity of the product is legendary both in terms of production and use.
I would pass on the BiSaddle, unless you can trial one, and go for the Brooks.

geocycle:
I use a B17 on my Raven Tour.  The breaking in issues are well documented and most people get through OK eventually.  IMO one of the reasons the are so effective is that they are utterly unforgiving in terms of position.  A few mm in height and a degree or so of angle make a big difference on a hard leather platform with no gel cushion.  However, now I've got it right I'll not go back to gel.

freddered:
I binned the San Marco after 1 ride and fitted a Brooks B17.

It's the best, no question about it in my opinion and zero breaking-in time for me.  

Check out the pictures on http://www.pbase.com/canyonlands/fullyloaded, considering the number of different saddles available it's no coincidence that a high proportion of high-mileage riders choose Brooks.

Mine has never sagged into my shape (maybe I'm Brooks shaped) but is comfy anyway.

I have spent 16 hours a day on it on some occasions, I doubt if I could stand San Marco for 2 hours.

Also, because the leather is suspended (like a hard hammock) between nose and tail with nothing else in-between it acts like a suspension seat-post.  If I push hard with my hand on the top of the saddle I can see the leather depress by about a centimetre.

Anyway, they've been selling them over 100 years without much in the way of modification.  They must be doing something right.

Arnaud:
OK, it looks like my French derriere will be suported by the finest British leather ! But which model ? Apart from the choice of colour there are so many variations of the B17.
My cycling partner has a Raven Tour coming soon so I'll ask SJS to chuck in an extra Brooks saddle.

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