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Danneaux

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Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« on: March 22, 2013, 09:40:29 pm »
Hi All!

An emerging and growing trend among local fixed-gear riders is the top-tube protector. An ideal way to pad one's shoulder when carrying the bike, these things also go far toward warding off the knocks and bumps, scratches and dings that come from public bike racks. A recent tour of my local uni showed these are showing up in ever greater numbers on parked bikes, and range from the homegrown (foam pipe lagging) to commercial variations. I can see them being useful for protecting the frame against paint damage when touring and on public transport. All are removable and therefore temporary.

I'm now seeing them show up on road bikes, MTBs and commuters as well.

They also protect against handlebar dents (depending on frame size and 'bar angle, drop 'bars can swing around with unfortunate consequences for the top tube) and are a way to completely restyle the color/pattern/appearance of a bicycle, mixing or matching at will. Many have a reflective option for nighttime safety. I've included manufacturer links below, but many of these protective pads are also available via Amazon and eBay at discount.

While they aren't quite my cup of tea, they do serve a useful purpose and are ever more popular, so I've been surveying the market to gain familiarity and to remain current on this latest trend. The results are below for anyone wishing to investigate further:
• BikeWrapper - reflective in a variety of patterns: www.yancopads.com
...and extended reviews by Vik Banerjee, late of this Forum:
https://thelazyrando.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/bike-wrapper-pre-view/
https://thelazyrando.wordpress.com/?s=wrapper
• BurroBike top tube pads: http://www.burrobags.com/products/easy-rider-top-tube-pads
• Pake top tube pads: http://www.pakebikes.com/product/CCCF10/Pake%20Top%20Tube%20Pads
• Pake reflective: http://www.amazon.com/Pake-Reflective-Top-Tube-Pad/dp/B0064404JI
• Seagull top tube pads: http://www.seagullbags.com/mobile/bags/accessories/toptubepad/
• SOMA hemp: http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/hemp-top-tube-pads
• Make Ur Own: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yhkTkCg4DQ
• Another DIY: http://bostonfixed.us/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=1909
• BiciConcepts (premium materials including synthetic ostrich!!): http://www.biciconcepts.com/framepadbuilder.html
• Salmon roll (with storage!): http://northstbags.com/products/salmon-roll
• FamliStraps: http://www.roadwarriorbicycles.com/top-tube-pads.html
• Ugly!Pads: http://www.uglypads.com/
• Hans BagWorks: http://hansbagworks.com/tag/top-tube-pad/
• UnderTheWeather: http://utwbags.bigcartel.com/category/top-tube-pad

Best,

Dan.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2013, 09:44:01 pm by Danneaux »

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2013, 06:54:33 am »
Well Dan!
I do not know how to say it But this must be for Mad People  :o

I'm Sorry but Why?  ::)

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2013, 07:28:59 am »
Great bit of research Dan and looks very comprehensive.

Not sure I can think of a good reason for me to have one but it is nice to know that they are available if the need ever arises.

I would say if you are doing a lot of off/on buses / back of pickups type touring the extra protection would be worth it.

Andy

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2013, 08:03:06 am »
Pete asked...
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I'm Sorry but Why?
...and Andy pondered...
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if you are doing a lot of off/on buses / back of pickups type touring the extra protection would be worth it.
I pretty much rejected the idea outright at first for myself, then I got to thinking...
There's some situations where these pads could be useful:
• Commercial, dense pads might be helpful and a bit more durable than pipe lagging for in-box or in-bag packing for airline travel.
• Could provide real paint protection for rack parking if commuting regularly.
• Might disguise a bike brand or theft attractiveness, depending on the kind of wrapper/style.

One of the things that always made me cringe when commuting was watching how others removed their security chains or cables when they prepared to leave the bike racks. Invariably, uni students removed these devices the same way you'd pull the starter rope on a lawnmower...and the end would whip around and clang against the paint of a neighboring bike. Maybe that's why I saw so many of these things on parked bikes during my last trip to campus. Spiral-wrapped electrical tape was big, as were sections of frame padded by old inner tubes, though I think that may have been more to disguise brand names than for chip protection.

On the other hand, I suppose these pads could be the equivalent of car nose protectors (called "masks" or "bras" here). Sure, those protect against stone chips, but trapped moisture and grit can cause rust and scratches underneath and when fitted, you don't see the pretty paint job. The fellow who used to park his bike next to mine had an interesting solution -- clear packing tape, fitted lengthwise atop the top tube. I have to admit, except for some noticeable yellowing due to UV, it still looked pretty fresh at the end of the year.

By they way, Fixies/single-speeds have taken off among the local uni crowd. I think there's several reasons:
• Logical progression from single-speed BMX bikes, but with greater speed and efficiency for transport of bigger people.
• Minimal maintenance.
• Low weight.
• For those who ride Fixed, a closer connection to the riding experience and greater involvement that comes with a more basic bike and direct drive.
• A chance to emulate the bike-messenger style, which is also growing, complete with clothing lines and accessories to support it.

Best,

Dan.

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2013, 09:12:56 am »
Well Dan!
I do not know how to say it But this must be for Mad People  :o

I'm Sorry but Why?  ::)

All the 80s BMX riders have now reached middle-age and are rediscovering cycling. They can't get away from their addiction to pads  ;) ;D

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 11:30:06 am »
Well Dan!
I do not know how to say it But this must be for Mad People  :o

I'm Sorry but Why?  ::)

Pete
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Agree what is the matter with these guys .you know how that came about  is when some wag decided not to take the wrapping off his bike when he was touring  save himself all that trouble of rewrapping it at airport.idiot idea looks crap yuppi fad.. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 11:33:07 am »
Hey, don't blame it on cycle-tourists  :-\. I've never seen a touring cyclist riding with frame pads on their bike.

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 12:41:47 pm »
i did . ::)

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 01:05:51 pm »
Funnily enough, just before Dan started this topic I had been thinking of covering my own Raven top tube with some pipe insulation. In prep for a long tour. Just thought it would save a few scratches and not add much weight.
I was surprised to see them manufactured!

In answer to someone's question - Why?
Because they can + fashion = answer.
(I use the term fashion in a very loose manner)
 ;)

Noticed a similar thing here in Manchester UK.
The young ladies have taking to going out shopping on a Saturday afternoon prior to visiting what I believe are now called hot spots / discos, wearing their curlers.
It's a kind of inverse fashion statement.
(I use the term fashion in a very loose manner)
 ;)
I long ago gave up trying to understand the fairer sex thought patterns.
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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2013, 12:31:45 pm »
I have a couple of stick on pads where the bars ends hit the top tube of my Sherpa, and I can see how someone might like the idea of a patterened cover on a 'fashion statement' bike but I think I'll stick to foam pipe wrap when the bikes are locked up in the garage.  

Having said that, we both forgot to take the wraps off and ended up stuffing them behind the gas meter box last Sunday morning. Grey foam really does not do much for the appearance of a whizzy Sunday bike.

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 12:41:44 pm »
I have leather wraps on the "mixte" bars (they aren't really, but I don't know what else to call them) of my crossframe Kranich. The purpose is to keep my shoes off the irreplaceable paintwork. If I had one of the low-stepover Thorns, I would put protectors on the tubes there too.

In addition, I've always found the slit-tube foam that bikes come packed in very useful for protecting the chainstays and seat tube against the chain when i clean the bike or change the chain or work on the chainrings or bottom bracket or cranks.

I can quite understand why some people would like permanent padding on bicycle tubes. Before I required a gerrybike, I always rode bikes half a size too large rather than half a size too small, and the crossbar can catch one badly...

All the same, I don't have permanent protection on the chainstays of any of my bikes, for the simple reason that those stick-on things are ugly. Instead I went towards a zero maintenance bike, where the chain is hardly ever opened, and lifted off the chainring only every several years.

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2013, 03:47:22 pm »
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I have leather wraps on the "mixte" bars (they aren't really, but I don't know what else to call them) of my crossframe Kranich.
Andre, in framebuilding parlance, those are called "twin laterals".
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All the same, I don't have permanent protection on the chainstays of any of my bikes, for the simple reason that those stick-on things are ugly.
Annnd...a chainstay protector is not required on your Kranich. By running a Rohloff (and a Hebie Chainglider), you don't have the rough-road "bouncing" problem of a twin-pivot rear derailleur that allows 'stay-slapping chain slack, nor the dancing chain of a freewheel/cassette to guard against, let alone the possibility of chain-suck.

Best,

Dan. (...who thinks Andre is the definitive Gentleman Cyclist)

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2013, 02:34:22 pm »
Thanks for the "twin laterals", Dan, but that doesn't, to me anyway, describe full length tubes as nicely as "mixte" does. For instance, standard tourers for very tall Dutchmen, and work bikes, have "twin lateral" top tubes...

I wasn't thinking so much of chain slap against the chain stay as just dropping or -- aargh! -- dragging the chain on it when working on the bike. But you're right, the need doesn't arise often enough to make the bike permanently ugly. As long as I remember to fit the foam tubes strategically before starting work... (RETURNS FROM ATTACHING A STICKY NOTE TO BIKE: "Fit foam tubes!")

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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2014, 11:22:32 am »
More here on TT protectors...

http://www.lfgss.com/thread24992.html

I may actually installed one on my (in progress) Gazelle Piste. Why? Nowhere to lean my bike against before work lockup...bar a lamppost.

Scratch galore and it's still in such nice shape...

Though you can't protect all, stone chips on stays/downtube are a fact of life. Maybe we all need Reynolds 953 stainless bikes :P
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Re: Top-tube wraps, pads, protectors
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2014, 12:55:46 pm »
Maybe we all need Reynolds 953 stainless bikes :P

Poppe & Potthoff Noblex came in tube sizes useful for loaded tourers. No longer made but I know the guy who bought up all the tube stock. Polishes up beautifully. Lugs to die for.
« Last Edit: February 28, 2014, 01:07:50 pm by Andre Jute »