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Andybg

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Thorn Ripio
« on: January 17, 2013, 05:52:33 am »

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Re: Thorn Ripio
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 01:01:00 am »
Hello everyone. 

Im pleased to say that I was the winning bidder on this auction and that I am very pleased with my purchase.  The chap who was selling it had it in storage for 2 years and had hardly touched it so had decided to sell.  He had built it up himself and shipped it out to New Delhi and cycled over the Himalayas apparently, nice guy.  I don't have such grand plans as of yet but it's nice to have it in the shed just in case!

I have been in the market for a Thorn for a while now and was determined to find a Rohloff tourer in my size (587L) but alas they never appear.  I came very close to buying a Nomad Mk 2 a couple of years ago, but having been to Bridgwater and getting measured up I had a change of heart.  I will use the Ripio primarily for Bridleway bashing in the Staffordshire Moorlands where I live and hopefully some touring in Scotland this summer so I think i've got a good bike for my needs at present. 

As it had been it storage I was a little apprehensive about the condition, also the listing itself wasn't the best and only had one grainy photo which I am assuming would have put many people off bidding.  All the better for me, I think i've got a good bike here.  Strangely enough I was most pleased when I saw that the brakes where the old XT type with the parallell linkages, beautiful brakes and fantastic stopping power akin to the very best XTR.  I'm convinced these will be a sought after setup for years to come.  I was also pleased to have the Magura Odur forks with lockout, of which I have read good reports.

I took it for a quick spin this morning and then stripped everything back to the frame and gave it a good degrease and replaced all the mismatched mounts with new shiny stainless all round. (remnants of a SJS workshop sweepings bag, what a great buy that was) 

It needs a couple of things doing before i'll be happy with it.  I'll fit a few new parts - a new chain, cables and outers all round and BB (thinking standard Shimano Deore Hollowtech II external BB?).  I'm 6'2" and fairly broad shouldered so i'll also fit a longer stem and wider bars - the current 600mm bars feel quite narrow.

It also looks like the previous owner has let his bar bag rub on the head tube, so some of the powder coat has rubbed away back to the steel.  I would like to restore this but it is not something I have done before.  Could anyone offer advice about the best way to go about it?  Also does anyone know what the RAL colour is, and where I could source some paint?  I would like to get a good match but it does not have to be perfect, it is a rough and ready tourer after all.

The Thorn expedition rear rack also has some corrosion in quite a few places so I would like to give a once over too, has anyone restored one of these before?  I already have an identical rear rack which I have been using on my Dawes Galaxy for the past few years so I will probably sell this once I have tidied it up.

I have tried to upload some photos but the file size limit has scuppered me for now...

Any comments or advice will be gratefully received!

Jack


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Re: Thorn Ripio
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 01:54:58 am »
Hi Jack!

Welcome to the Forum, and all congratulations your way on a wonderful new purchase; nice to have you with us!

I'm sure many happy miles are ahead of you on your wonderful new steed, and of course, I have to ask if you might favor us with some photos in the Gallery once you have your new bike fully personalized to your needs. very much looking forward to seeing more photos of it than appeared in the auction listing.

I've had good luck restoring black powdercoated steel racks by cleaning up any loose or flaking rust, then hitting what remains with a rust converter (I prefer Ospho, but others will do as well). Once any remaining rust is converted, then I use a matte or light semi-gloss black paint by Krylon or Rustoleum and give it a good spray in a dust-free area (it helps to pre-warm both rack and paint this time of year). The results were astonishingly worthwhile and looked virtually original. I think you'll be pleased with the results if you go this route. Others have had their racks media-blasted and then re-powdercoated, but if you regularly carry panniers, the areas where the hooks attach tend to soon wear thin again. The wet-paint respray looks very nice of the underlying bare steel is clean up and rust-converted. I prep the remaining powdercoat by scuffing with a 3M abrasive "green" pad, just enough to give a bit of "tooth" for the paint to adhere. Of course, before painting I do a wipe-down with 99% isopropyl alcohol to remove any dust or fingerprints/grease.

Thorn should be able to advise a mix of Humbrol touchup that will get you very close to the missing powdercoat color.

For additional Forum posts on paint touch-up, you can use the search function. I have posted a tutorial here: http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4390.0

Here are a few links to get you started:
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=5127.0
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=5381.0
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4961.0
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2685.0
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4815.0
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3895.0
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=3864.0
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=2488.0

As for posting photos, I wrote up a little tutorial here: http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4313.0 It includes some links to free utilities for resizing your photos to meet the upload size requirements. If you still have problems, feel free to PM me and I will help or I can resize the photos for you for posting if you send them by email.

Once again, congratulations and welcome, Jack!

Best,

Dan.
« Last Edit: May 08, 2016, 06:57:17 pm by Danneaux »

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Re: Thorn Ripio
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 07:32:27 am »
Hi Jack,
Congratulations on your buy, looks like a great bargain.

Looks like Dan has addressed your questions (we expect nothing less from our maestro)  ;)

I have a question for you Jack based on my own future for a Thorn touring bike, you have said that the right size for you is a 587L and that your height is 6"2' my very limited experience in these matters made me think that sounded a bit small as I am 6" and looking at a 590L.
Do you have any specific reason that you chose that frame size as right for you?
In the end, it's not going to matter how many breaths you took, but how many moments took your breath away.
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Re: Thorn Ripio
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2013, 11:53:51 pm »
Thanks for the replies.  I have put all the photos on flickr and have (hopefully) linked a couple of them below for your perusal!

Having given the rack a good clean, the corrosion is not as bad as it first appeared so I may just sell it on, my other expedition rack is pretty spotless and legend has it they are unbreakable, having two is just downright greedy!

I'll drop Thorn an email about the colour match. Thanks for the links, there's some good tips in there from people who know what they are doing so I shall follow them to the letter.

Ian

I too was recommended a 590L when I went to SJS to have a test ride on a Nomad, the 587L is the closest match when comparing sizes to the old Raven frames (if I have interpreted the size charts correctly).  As the older models come onto the market more often, that was the size I was keeping an eye out for.  When are you hoping to take the plunge?







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