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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #225 on: June 24, 2013, 04:03:19 pm »
looking stunning Dan.

Not much more to do now and she will be perfect.

I bet you are kicking yourself at not getting another pack of spoke reflectors?

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #226 on: June 24, 2013, 06:07:34 pm »
Hi All!

Thanks so much for the kind words and thoughts; very much appreciated!

I will soon have some detailed posts and photos showing updates on the trailer in its own section, here: http://www.thorncycles.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=4953.msg25499#msg25499

The Extrawheel trailer is nearly complete for my requirements, needing only the final modifications to make generate power and recharge batteries while I sleep in camp at night. It is deceptively easy; I have proven it will work and have already successfully prototyped it. I just need to extend my days beyond 20 hours to make it happen!

I do so wish the trailer had been supplied with a black mudguard! The special SKS model Extrawheel use is 60mm wide and bridgeless -- the stays attach to side bead-clips that support the 'guard in lieu of a fork crown or brake bridge. To replace it with a black one would require me to purchase a whole set, then cannibalize the pair to make one (transfer and re-riveting of steel stay bridges). This is just too expensive at the moment, so I have contented myself with applying my usual "Ride the World" motto and Nomad Tuareg logo in gold-reflective black Scotchlite and adding an SKS reflector to the 'guard. Reflectors aren't available on SKS' offerings outside the Eurozone, so I had to source one from a friend in Rotterdam.

I keep telling myself that perhaps the silver 'guard will help visibility, but who am I fooling? Someday, a black Extrawheel 'guard will be mine!  ;)

Yes, Andy, an order has been placed for more spoke reflectors. The ones on the trailer are indeed left over from a double-36 set for the bike, which has 32-spoke wheels. Meanwhile, the cluster of reflectors does impart an attention-getting "wobble-effect" when seen at night.

Fred, you're spot-on as to the purpose and reason for the longer front 'guard, made from a repurposed rear model. I've thought about doing this for the last 35 years, and got really close on one of my rando bikes before putting this on the Nomad. I simply cannot believe the difference it makes toward keeping dry and the bike stays ever so much cleaner. The velocity of water thrown from the mudguard is much lower by the time it shoots out the extended end and it is directed downward, so I don't ride into my own spray. It does look...different, but oh what a positive functional difference!

Thanks, All!

Best,

Dan.

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #227 on: June 24, 2013, 07:12:52 pm »
Sounds like its time to get the black spray paint out! ;)

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #228 on: June 24, 2013, 07:15:05 pm »
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...black spray paint...
Ooh! So, so tempted! If I do, it might be this stuff: http://www.krylon.com/products/fusion-for-plastic/

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Dan. (...who likes a "complete" look)

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #229 on: June 24, 2013, 07:23:54 pm »
Dan what about carbon wrap might be better than paint.
but even so the bike is stunning excellent build and that front mudguard looks great,
but a silly question when you hit the rough stuff especially on a rain sodden track will it give you grief with muck building up under it just a thought.
or have you figured a way to prevent this happening.

Dan please do a video of that whole set up ;)

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #230 on: June 24, 2013, 07:47:38 pm »
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Dan what about carbon wrap might be better than paint.
I think you may well be right, jags. I have reservations about the paint; it looks so bad when it chips and a lot of stones hit the mudguards. I am thinking about a toughened black vinyl, stretched and then heat-set in place. I'm looking into this further.
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that front mudguard...when you hit the rough stuff especially on a rain sodden track will it give you grief with muck building up under it
Another good thought, and one that occurred to me as well, so I tested a lot in local mud during some recent rains. The 'guard clears the front tire by a bit "extra" as you can see from a sliver of daylight coming through between 'guard and tire in some of the earlier photos -- clearance is a generous 20mm minimum, with a bit more at the lower rear. Of course, when one is in heavy mud or clay like Il Padrone showed in his photos, any mudguards will clog, and this is why you sometimes see world tourists without mudguards -- they can't clog if they're not there! I agree, it will be a horrible mess if I run into wet playa; that stuff sticks like clay and builds up terribly. A lot of mass and weight can soon accumulate and the wheels lock right up, stopping all forward progress.

It is horses for courses here; I'm hoping for the desert conditions I'll encounter, all will be fine. There will be a lot of paved road-riding to get there, and if it rains, these longer 'guards will help a lot. One of my concerns is the crushed lava used to sand the roads and provide traction in winter snows. There's still buckets of the red stuff on all the shoulders of the mountain passes, and without 'guards, it will get thrown right on the chain, where it acts like grinding compound. It is a tough call, but I figured mudguards would be a good idea on this trip. If not...I may need to remove and carry them till I reach better conditions, just as Il Padrone Pete did.

Some years ago, I experimented and found good luck spraying the underside of my mudguards with PAM cooking spray, made with canola oil: http://www.pamcookingspray.com/ It isn't suitable for all conditions, but can make a real difference when riding in the sort of thing that can build up. You wipe off the excess so it won't ran down and grease the tires and rim braking tracks. The accumulated goo just sort of sloughs off, rather than sticking. The PAM can make a terrible mess if one is careless when applying it and it needs to be reapplied from time to time, but surely can help, depending. I first used it to keep grass clippings from building up under the decks of lawnmowers. It worked better than products intended for that use, was less expensive, and didn't have the chemical concerns. I've also waxed the underside of the mudguards from time to time, and that worked surprisingly well at keeping the accumulation from sticking as much.
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Dan please do a video of that whole set up
I will! I will have three video/video-capable cameras with me, so I should have some to show you. I plan to do a video walkaround of the bike as well. Just need to stretch those days!

Best,

Dan.

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #231 on: June 24, 2013, 08:06:40 pm »
The coating of the mudguards with oil made me think of this:

http://www.before-n-after.co.uk/nonstickpages.html

It is a treatment used on the underside of offroad vehicles to help them not build up with mud. It may be something to consider if you are planning on touring in muddy conditions a lot.

I am sure it will be available (or something very similar) stateside

Andy

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #232 on: June 24, 2013, 08:08:51 pm »
My! That is impressive, Andy! Thanks for the reference link!

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Dan. (...who is now busily "looking")

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #233 on: June 24, 2013, 09:43:31 pm »
Dan,

Here's a guy who wrapped his Brompton mudguards with carbon effect car wrapping foil, http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasweinert/6874412240/
« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 09:45:26 pm by rualexander »

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #234 on: June 24, 2013, 09:46:03 pm »
Thanks, Rual!

To my eyes, a beautiful result and I like it very much. More appropriate and long-lasting than paint in this application, I think.

Best,

Dan.

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #235 on: June 25, 2013, 12:18:23 am »
Hi Dan!

I have been Thinking (yes its painful) why not more Extrawheel trailer's like a OZ Road Train?

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« Reply #236 on: June 25, 2013, 12:34:50 am »
Hi Dan,
Here is a OZ Road Train!



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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #237 on: June 25, 2013, 12:37:05 am »
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...why not more Extrawheel trailer's like a OZ Road Train?
;D Indeed one could, Pete, and it could go on endlessly! The Extrawheel's fork is width-adjustable, so you'd just have to set each subsequent fork to the (narrower) width of the trailer ahead. I have to tell you, after seeing the photo of an Oz Road Train...I *really* like the look!
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Pete...Who would like to tour the World on Only One Wheel
Or...you could fit an Extrawheel trailer to your unicycle and call it a "bicycle". My Nomad becomes a 3-wheeler when towing the trailer!

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Dan.

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #238 on: June 25, 2013, 01:11:07 am »
My Nomad becomes a 3-wheeler when towing the trailer!

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Dan.

Hi Dan,
As a Road Train with one more trailer (4 wheels) it would become a Car!

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Re: Danneaux's Nomad
« Reply #239 on: June 30, 2013, 07:22:08 pm »
Dan,

I just thought about you going on your tour and realized that you have not revealed your newly discovered way of generating electricity while sleeping.  I was very interested to see what you have come up with.  Are you going to reveal this prior, during, or after the trip?  I think you were baiting us.  Can't wait!


Tom