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in4

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Hilleberg Akto advice
« on: November 23, 2019, 09:48:20 PM »
Has anyone any experience  using an Akto with the optional mesh inner? I'm particularly interested in how good the ventilation is. I'm hoping to ride in the Australian dry season during  2020 and think the standard inner would be far too 'sweaty'
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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2019, 11:02:24 AM »
I've no experience of the mesh inner I'm afraid but I would have thought that it would be ideal for your purpose.

Ventilation on the Akto even with the standard inner is excellent in my view. One of the plus points is the ability to fine tune it to suit conditions.

John Saxby

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2019, 04:33:13 PM »
Hi Ian,
 No experience with the Hilleberg, I'm afraid, but I have a 2-person MSR Hubba Hubba with an internal mesh compartment, and it's been ideal both in the Southern Africa dry season--with and without the fly--and in the Canadian summer, ditto.

Can you use the Akto inner without the outer fly?  One advantage is--assuming you'll have no rain--that with just the inner mesh, you have a delightful bug-free view of the night sky.

Cheers,  John

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2019, 10:32:43 PM »
with just the inner mesh, you have a delightful bug-free view of the night sky.

You romantic, you.

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2019, 11:21:39 PM »
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in4

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2019, 08:41:16 AM »
I feel a song coming on :)
Great contributions, thank you

Hilleberg tell me that the mesh inner is available as an additional item only; you canít buy one as an alternative to the non-mesh one. Puzzling I think, but they know their market etc.
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John Saxby

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2019, 03:57:01 PM »
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the mesh inner is available as an additional item only

Depending on the conditions you're likely to face, Ian, a separate mesh inner used with a nylon/silicone tarp could do the necessary:  if you expect to encounter occasional wind or rain, for example. I started using one as a standard item in my canoeing, and continue using one in cycle-touring.  I have to deal with downpours now & then--rarely steady/drizzly rain--and rigging the tarp lets me start the day and pack up in dry conditions.

For you, OTOH, getting a tarp may be more bother than it's worth. 

Going sideways on this issue, you might look at the offerings on www.tarptent.com.  I've used a Moment DW since 2015, for example, and have found it excellent, with very good ventilation.  Details on request if you're interested.

Cheers,  John

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2019, 03:00:48 AM »
Here's my Enan on Antelope Island in Utah. I think the ventilation is the same as with the Akto. With the door flap open, the ventilation is pretty good. With the fly deployed, probably a mesh inner wouldn't be too much of an improvement. Obviously a mesh inner without the fly... I forget whether they have a system to allow that!


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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2019, 10:40:12 PM »
I'm agree with JimK, it's for that reason i bought a second tent specially for warm weather (3 seasons)..

Which part of Australia do you plan to ride there ?
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in4

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 11:26:00 AM »
Dry season Queensland and Northern Territory. 35c day time possibly down to 10c night time

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Re: Hilleberg Akto advice
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2019, 07:56:41 PM »
Thanks, Ian, that's helpful.

From my experience, I'd suggest a close look at the Tarptent DW Moment (one-person).  It has 2 vestibules and two wide doors.  Both doors are made of mesh.  The tip and the toe of the tent are two triangles, also of mesh, with closable flaps.  The fly is vented in two spots at its peak.

I've found that the tip and toe triangles, left open, provide good very ventilation, esp when aligned with the wind. If I leave the flap of one vestibule open as well, that's more than enough ventilation.  When I've camped in temps below, say, 10-12 with wind, I've found I have to close both vestibule doors most of the way -- in those conditions, the fore and aft triangles gave sufficient ventilation.

One consideration:  The basic Moment is not free-standing. Tarptent does sell a fore-and-aft crossing pole, however, which converts the tent to free-standing -- although I always use the two fore and aft pegs.  I've found the crossing pole to be very handy however:  it ensures ample space betw fly and inner and generally adds tautness to the tent when pitched. I've also found it to be handy when I rig a tarp (as I always do if I expect rain at night) -- the crossing pole serves as a prop.

One detail on the poles: I opted to use the standard alu poles for both the main hoop and the auxiliary crossing pole.  If I were doing it again, however, I'd opt for the more expensive carbon-fibre for at least the main hoop pole.  When the tent is damp or wet, the alu sometimes binds a bit when I thread it through the tunnel to erect the tent.

Cheers,  John