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moan of the day
jags:
I reckon we are all getting ripped off big time with the price of bike's Thorn included.
for instance i was thinking of going Ebike but man the price is unreal up on 7000 are they having a laugh. but wait if i just buy front wheel and battery it will cost me £500 .
now if i was to sell my lovely top of the line Terry Dolan carbon jobby with full shimano 105 groupset all the usual bling i'd be lucky to get 800 euro for it .
something wrong somewhere ,these bike company's are pure gangsters if you ask me 8) :(
anyway i'm fed up with cycling this past 3 months or so, if i had a blow torch i'd melt both my overly priced bikes i reckon i was conned in paying out all that bloody money,as for tents don't get me started on those things they should be banned ,i could be wrong of course .
oh yeah Rohloff lads you guys need a really big bottle of cop on pills paying that kinda money :o
so there you go anto's giving up cycling im burning my tents in the morning theres going to be a big fire in the park tomorrow .
bye bye now
anto.
PH:
Sounds like a bad day anto, it'll pass.
Whatever you fancy there'll be cheaper alternatives, but value like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
If you're interested in electric conversions, there are some good buys round, several in the CTC group I ride with have them, it's kept them cycling after they may otherwise have given up. It also makes them popular into a headwind, no one else wants a turn on the front ;)
Andre Jute:
My first electric motor/battery combo was the Bafang 8FUN kit, still sold in the UK for STG460 plus STG26 carriage to ireland for a complete kit of motor, battery, controller, and all wiring. This is for a rack-mount battery, but you should ask if they still offer the bottle battery that fits on the down-tube because it makes for a slightly better-balanced bike. If you can change a wheel on a bike and fit a bottle holder, you can install this kit; it took me less than half hour. Don't fall for the other ads on Ebay which offer cheaper motors or rubbishy batteries; those kits are not complete and will lead to no end of frustration, whereas the kit these Ecosmobile people sell is complete and everything of the best. See the recommended kit at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8Fun-Ebike-Electric-Bike-Conversion-Kit-36V-250W-20-26-700C-Wheel-/190694074560?var=&hash=item721d7621c7. If you get the kit with the bottle battery, you don't get the rack. I chose this kit as the best-value kit for an experiment to familiarize myself with the ins and outs of peddlers, always knowing that sooner or later I would need something quite a bit bigger. BTW, the three modes of operation offered by the controller with this kit is very, very important; many other kits offer only the pedelec mode, which is anti-intuitive (read "stupid") because it reduces motor effort just when you need it most; it is absolutely essential to have the throttle that comes standard with this kit.
My front motor lasted 3500 miles; I agree with Julian that you have to regard the motor as a consumable, and the battery too, though my battery that came with that kit was and is fine, and on standby as a backup for my current installation. I think though, that if you look after the electrical gear as well as you look after your bike, and if your bike isn't as heavy as mine, and you're lighter than me anyway, the Bafang motor could give you years of service, and anyway -- here's the big secret -- the motor itself, bare of battery and controller, only costs about Euro70 direct from China. I heartily recommend this kit as great value for the money, complete down to the last nut and bolt, backed by people who respond when required, as light as it is possible to go without buying trouble, and fun to use.
The newer centre motor kit I have now is also a Bafang 8FUN (no point in experimenting once you find the best manufacturer you can afford), but it is twice as expensive and some of the members on the forum thought installation was tricky enough to have it done by their supplier; the wiring is a bit trickier but I build tube amps with 1200+ volts on the plate, so I thought it a breeze working with 36V wiring; the biggest holdup is arranging so many wires tidily. I bought the motor and controller kit and wiring harness as one lot, and the battery separately, but from the same supplier who guaranteed that it would be a plug and play job, and it was. However, it is vital to your health that you do not reverse-wire the lipo battery (impossible with the first kit I described above because the controller is fitted with idiot proof sockets and plugs), so unless you are confident in your electrical skills, get someone who has a DMM and knows how to use it to help at the point where you connect bare wires for the final motor to battery connection (the rest is also idiot proof once you identify the little positioning lip and slot on the connectors). This is a kit that fits through the bottom bracket, so there's a bit more mechanicking involved in fitting it, so allow an hour before you can ride. Clearly, this centre-motor kit and its humongous battery is much heavier than the one described first, which is something else you have to keep in mind in your choice because the lighter the motor the less capable and maybe the sooner you burn it out, and the smaller the battery the less satisfactory it will be in operation, the greater the stress even normal operation will put on it, and the sooner it will wear out. It is especially important that you never drain the battery fully, and that you recharge it after even the shortest ride, religiously, just like you clean your bike.
Any questions, ask here; you'd be surprised at how many electrified bikes there are on this forum.
bobs:
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https://www.damianharriscycles.co.uk/prod/ele_0014_rm/riese-und-muller-charger-gx-rohloff-2017-bike
I'm seriously thinking of selling my Nomad and getting one of these after having a test run.
Bob
Danneaux:
Hmm. ???
I see in basic spec it weighs 27kg/59.5lbs and has somewhat limited cargo capacity: It will accept 20kg/44lb on the rear rack and 3kg/6.6lb on the front rack. Gross weight rating is 140kg/309lb.
Estimated minimum range: 40km/25mi
Estimated maximum range: 161km/100mi
100mm travel sus-fork requiring periodic maintenance compared to a rigid fork.
I'm afraid I'd be out of luck using this on my solo, self-supported desert tours where I must carry as much as 26.5l in water alone and am often 161-321km/100-200 miles away from services. I think my Nomad is a better choice for me.
All the best,
Dan.
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