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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 08:25:26 PM »
Thanks for the warm welcome... not sure about big plans, but I do like the idea of having a bike that can do everything (ok not anything fast) and I want to do some off road cycle touring - planning for the pennine bridleway this year and the something longer next year but less off-road. I have a very light carbon MTB but donít think it will be up to dragging a trailer around and my other bike is a doi it all titanium road bike. So I think the Nomad will do all I need (slowly) and will last a lifetime. Iím sure there are other options but having done some research I keep coming back to the Nomad. Feel free to dissuade me though.

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 11:28:12 PM »
well the boys at sjs will certainly put you right
your going to find the bikes old school (i did) im used to riding road bikes i also rise a Terry Dolan Le tape little cracker of a bike ,my other bike is the Thorn Audax  i ride it all the time class bike does everything i want it to do including touring,but i try to go as light as possible 2 rear panniers barbag usually does me fine.
theres a lot of lads here do adventure stuff so i reckon you enjoy the chat with them .
anyway this old bird is off to his cot best of luck with the new baby .

anto.

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2018, 03:12:49 AM »
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So I think the Nomad will do all I need (slowly) and will last a lifetime. Iím sure there are other options but having done some research I keep coming back to the Nomad. Feel free to dissuade me though.
As a happy owner of a 2012 Nomad Mk2, I'd never put you off one!  ;)

If you'd like to see what I have done with mine, most entries are in the Forum's gallery under "Danneaux's Nomad" here:
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4523.0

It is my go-to expedition bike and has proven ideal for everything from pavement to goat tracks and happily carries all I need for extended self-supported solo touring including up to 26.5l of water for desert transits. I find its unladen on-pavement limit is practically about 200km/day simply because its capability off-road tempts me to detour from pavement to slower and steeper gravel logging roads and the odd dirt track, so overall speed and therefore daily distance tends to be less rather than due to any shortcoming of the bike.

That said, the Nomad is a "lot" of bike and unless one needs the true expedition/heavy cargo capacity/rugged road capability it offers, a Raven might well make a better "all-rounder" simply because it is lighter (equipped as I prefer, my Nomad weighs 20kg dry and unladen) and more lively but lacks the cargo payload capacity of the much more robust Nomad.

I only found one easily addressed shortcoming to mine: Equipped with a rigid seatpost, the bike rode wonderfully fully laden but the same frame that made it perfect for heavy loads was uncomfortably stiff when ridden fast and unladen on really rough logging roads, causing some neck problems. Fitting a Thudbuster LT completely addressed this problem for me and made the bike a joy to ride both unladen on the worst roads and fully laden on any road.

If you choose to fit drop handlebars to yours, you will likely need an M (Medium) frame and a shorter reach stem and compact-reach/shallow-drop handlebars to compensate for the longer top tube. Equipped this way, mine fits identically to my drop-bar randonneur and touring bikes and I have had no handling problems.

Where you already have other bikes of different sorts, I think a Nomad will nicely fit your intended brief and will prove satisfactory and then some for your needs. I have a number of bikes in my fleet and still find myself coming back to the Nomad again and again as a "favorite ride" among them -- for almost any purpose because it works so very well and I still really like it after 5.5 years of ownership.

Best,

Dan.
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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2018, 06:47:23 AM »
I have a very light carbon MTB but donít think it will be up to dragging a trailer around.

Nomad if you want to do expedition touring.

A slightly lighter Raven would be sufficient for most heavy touring, and will happily pull a heavy trailer.

I wanted a Nomad originally, SJS persuaded me that a "heavy build" Raven Tour (predecessor to the Raven) would be better for my needs, adequate for cycle-camping in Europe and more fun to ride when moderately loaded. So far, no regrets about getting a Raven Tour rather than a Nomad.

My trailer tow bike is another Raven Tour frame built up as a utility bike, with a Shimano 8-speed hub gear instead of a Rohloff. I use this with 4 panniers for supermarket shopping. It also copes with my heavy two-wheel trailer and trailer loads of up to 70 kg (so far). My record trailer load was 130 kg of builder's sand, but that was with my old utility bike, less stable than the Raven Tour with a heavy load.

I don't tour with the trailer, it is used for heavy or bulky loads that won't fit in four panniers. As I don't own a motor vehicle, when I need a bag of cement or a few breezeblocks for work around the house I use my trailer to fetch them, or when I go to the fruit farm for two crates of apples.

I hire a van if I need a really big load (example a ton of breezeblocks for a big project).




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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2018, 06:28:32 PM »
Well thanks for the feedback and the link to danneauxís bike was very nice. At SJS I was taken very good care of by Stephen and we quickly concluded that the Nomad was what I needed. I was actually surprised by how light it was.... probably because I had prepared my mind in advance for a much heavier feeling bike. 20 minutes riding around the park to try out the Rohloff Hub and Iím happy. Order placed. I feel that I may have disrupted the happy new year thread... but all I can say in defence is that this should be my kick start for a happy year!

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2018, 08:08:38 PM »
I consider it to be that when a new Nomad is bought, it is day zero, a new year, no matter whichever day of a year it falls on.

January first is a day of hope.  We hope that pleasant adventures will bring new adventures, perhaps a new "me" and more meaning to our lives.  We wish good things for ourselves and for those we love.  Sometimes it comes true, sometimes not. The idealism of new hope is a good step in the right direction.

So it is, exactly that same way, the moment we first sit on our Thorns, spin the cranks and move ourselves forward. 

New Thorn.  New Year.  Bon voyage. Don't forget a sip of your favorite beverage, and some of us believe in the power of a well considered name to animate the machine, to breathe spirit into it.  :)

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2018, 08:19:20 PM »
That very profound and lovely sentiment. Can I ask where you are from Pavel - only I am often in Czech Republic and I know Pavel as a fairly common name there.

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2018, 09:20:19 PM »
As for the name - Iím thinking of ďSAMSONĒ on account of the load bearing capabilities

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2018, 09:24:47 PM »
Happy New Thorn repeat, look forward to seeing the first pics.
 

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2018, 09:28:58 PM »
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As for the name - Iím thinking of ďSAMSONĒ on account of the load bearing capabilities
Excellent. My Nomad is "Seymour" (See-More) because his superior load-carrying capacity and overall capability do indeed allow me to see more.

Best,

Dan. (...echoing the call for photos in the Gallery board so we can see Samson soonest ;) )

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2018, 09:46:20 PM »
That very profound and lovely sentiment. Can I ask where you are from Pavel - only I am often in Czech Republic and I know Pavel as a fairly common name there.

Bingo!  Born in the Czech Republic, living and cycling in the hot, swampy South Eastern United States.  :)

My Nomad is named "Atlas"  I sense a theme here.  :D

My Raven RST has the moniker "Rocinante" and I'd love to forced to search out an appropriate name for either a Audax or a Club tour one day.
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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2018, 10:05:25 PM »
Nice to meet you Pave - Iím travelling to Brno on Monday, but via Ryanair rather than Samson. I hope your tour goes well.

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2018, 10:10:25 PM »
Has the new baby arrived yet  ;)


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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2018, 10:34:13 PM »
No not yet.... expected in early February. Canít wait!

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Re: Happy New Year
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2018, 12:46:16 PM »
Am i hijacking this thread by chipping in with my bike name?
A second hand Raven, so The Old Bird.

May e someone could/ should start a name your bike thread?

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